Mini 469 - Self Guided Mafia - Game Over.

[Xdaamno]

Vote: Creampuffeater

Where's this wagon headed? North? I'm going there, anyway.

[Xdaamno]

I disagree. Scum would hardly be able to get a lynch at this point, so there's no valid conscious reason why a scum player would do it.

[Xdaamno]

Vote: rajrhcpfreak

Bad arguments.

[Xdaamno]

FOS: creampuffeater

Backseat driving.

[Xdaamno]

Yeah, they've been applying pressure and getting a reaction.

Actual scum-hunting based on pre-game bandwagoning and pre-game vote hopping, however?

[Xdaamno]

Heh. I find it funny those under attack label things such as 'Piggy's votes were pressure' completely stupid or scummy. I think not realising that he wasn't actually trying to lynch someone (Because there's only two conceivable reasons for a vote, in normal play: Wanting to lynch or applying pressure) is the stupid/scummy part.

[Xdaamno]

If he can't verbally say he's PRed, he probably won't be able to imply it either.

[Xdaamno]

Mmkay. That's either PRed townie or sympathy scum. Probably the former, IMO.

[Xdaamno]

For the record. rajrhcpfreak is my lynch for today, if I was forced to choose.

[Xdaamno]

I have a very good reason for not claiming. If I told anyone they would call me scum covering up. Seriously, I'm betting it was either extremely unhelpful town or scum put that role into the pot, because it completely ****s up the game for me.

I have a question for Panzer; exactly what terrible role did you add to the pot?

Try me.

[Xdaamno]

I won't give too much away (Since it'd theoretically be helpful to the scum), but it activates upon death.

[Xdaamno]

Unvote, vote rajrhcpfreak

Right, he votes Ms piggy for hopping, when I do the same and am persuaded to think differently by Xdaammo he calls it scummy and a 'good catch'. Logical ****.

He then blatantly tries to get me speedlynched. Saying someone, anyone, is the play for today on PAGE 3 is ridiculous.

Basically these are my reasons for thinking he is scum.

i said that theos observations were a good catch.

speed lynch? ha. you wont be speed lynched unless you refuse to claim. my statements saying "your the play" is just to convince people to bandwagon you to a claim. then we can decide if your lying.

Eh, where do I start. He won't be speed lynched if or if not he refuses to claim; that's loaded. Whether he's scum or he has a role that shouldn't be claimed strategically, I'd still not speedlynch him, since we can't distinguish between the two.

page 3? well, i represent a growing sentiment on this site that doesn't fool around, a group on this site that enjoys fast games. and why shouldn't we bandwagon you to claim if we've found scum on page 3.

Also crap logic. Bandwagoning to claim is the alleged way of finding out whether he's scum. You can't bandwagon him for being scum if you haven't even got the claim yet.

personally i don't want to sit around masturbating in my own words for twenty pages waiting for scum to trip me up and convince the town to lynch me on a stupid technicality. your actions today, following the front runners and agreeing with them comes out pretty scummy. and your tag team effort with Xdaammo is intriguing. i want to say its on the scummy side but ill wait to judge it after we deal with you.

And this is the worst part. It seems, in every game where I trust someone, it gets pounced on (And always by scum so far). Is it

really

that hard to believe I find a player with good points trustworthy instead of me (allegedly) latching onto my scum partner for help and hoping nobody would notice? An annoying part of mafia scum it's people's trust of well-known conscious scum tells. Since they're conscious and well-known forms an oxymoron; if they're well known scum tells, they wouldn't consciously be performed.

[Xdaamno]

Yes.

[Xdaamno]

Anyway, Jenter, a RC would still be appreciated.

[Xdaamno]

-_-'

It was a

lot

more helpful telling us, anyway, thanks. The problem is you've just made a massive scum pairing between me and you if you get lynched, because you're either scum or telling the truth XD

[Xdaamno]

Oh, and... how do you know it's not my role? I can tell you it's not, but how did you know? That only activates upon death.

[Xdaamno]

Not from my knowledge it dosen't, is that in your role PM?

[Xdaamno]

Eh, Jenter, there's been some good arguments against you and you're whining about the role a little too much. I don't like it. You're on my scumdar (Though not higher than the guy with the... reghfjrick name )

[Xdaamno]

Awful Alliteration.

Why's it telling? I know it's a perfect scum cover up, but it's also consistent with town play and therefore isn't a scum tell.

[Xdaamno]

And, for the record, I meant it could make us a scum pair target because I was the one who asked for the roleclaim, as if I was setting the stage for my scum buddy to fakeclaim.

[Xdaamno]

Now wait just a moment here...

I believe it was you who just said that he'd made a "massive scum pair" between you two.

And now you've suddenly changed your story to "it's a town tell"?

Spin. I said 'I know it's a scum tell', and also that 'But it's also consistent with town play', not that 'it's a town tell'.

[Xdaamno]

Daamo lately has been acting very very scummy, but to me a Deathmiller claim at -2 from lynch or -3 from lynch is trash. Daamo and Jenter are scum. I think Daamo tried to give his buddy Jenter an out and Jenter screwed it up. Why else admit your role with no pressure . Just look at the way they did that. They had no fear and then jenter screwed it up just enough for daamo to really give himself away.

I'm actually looking at the people attacking me now mainly because it's so sheepish and ridiculous. JDodge has given a terrible point, and others have latched on without any additional reasons.

[Xdaamno]

So.. Why do you think raj is scummyer than Jenter?

As I've already said, every single one of his arguments has been wrong, in my eyes. While being wrong is only a weak scum tell in itself, being wrong every single time is worse, and notice how I ommited the part where I said I though he was exceptionally scummy. I only said I find him more scummy than you, which dosen't even imply I find him scummy at all (Though, admittedly, I do).

[Xdaamno]

Now wait just a moment here...

I believe it was you who just said that he'd made a "massive scum pair" between you two.

And now you've suddenly changed your story to "it's a town tell"?

Spin. I said 'I know it's a scum tell', and also that 'But it's also consistent with town play', not that 'it's a town tell'.

Could you clarify this a bit more? You're a bit unclear.

What I mean is, I can see how it could easily incriminate someone as scum, but it's also more than entirely possible that the person in question is a pro-town person; it's consistent with both pro-town and anti-town play.

[Xdaamno]

@JDodge: Just pointing out the good points when the bad points are obvious is a stupid idea. I'm being honest.

Ms Piggy: I'll provide you with a source of when I've said this before, hopefully the game is finished. I say it a lot, and apparently so do you, so my conclusion is it's a common phrase that would be said by either side.

[Xdaamno]

I dunno, I think you stated them. I forgot. I'm just saying pointing out the good and bad points of attacks against me is a lot better than pointing out the bad ones.

[Xdaamno]

0_0

If I (One of the most prolific and honest posters) get lynched by you bunch of sheep, I wish I could nominate this for worst town performance.

Roleclaim: Roleblocker

[Xdaamno]

pointing out that something you say sounds scummy doesnt make you less of a scum in my mind.

Just to point out, remember that this is the only piece of evidence against me in the entire game, apart from a connection with Jenter. Do you see the flaw in this? For that connection to be a scum tell, Jenter must be scum. Since Jenter has far more evidence than yours truly, wouldn't that mean

Jenter

would be the better lynch?

FTR, I don't want to lynch Jenter. While I don't believe Jenter is the most pro-town player in the game, I certainly don't believe Jenter's scum.

[Xdaamno]

First of all, it wasn't even an argument. Once again, you're twisting what I'm trying to say.

[Xdaamno]

Votecount

And Zodiac, what? I was saying if that is a scum tell, Jenter must be scum. Once again, not 'Jenter is scum'...?

I still have

no clue

whatsoever why half the players in the game are attacking me 0_0

I'll compose a list of all the arguments presented against me and show you why each and every one of them is wrong. God, this is the stupidest scum hunt I've seen in a while.

[Xdaamno]

Here we go:

yes piggys votes aren't applying pressure. and

zdaamno's defense is on the stupid/scummy side.

BUT Broccoli is staying back and agreeing what ever the town believes.

No need to defend against this one, no argument is presented.

Unvote, Vote: xdaamno

It was a lot more helpful telling us, anyway, thanks. The problem is you've just made a massive scum pairing between me and you if you get lynched, because you're either scum or telling the truth XD

Terribly telling.

Awful Alliteration.

Why's it telling? I know it's a perfect scum cover up, but it's also consistent with town play and therefore isn't a scum tell.

Now wait just a moment here...

I believe it was

you

who just said that he'd made a "massive scum pair" between you two.

And now you've suddenly changed your story to "it's a town tell"?

Already fully defended against this. I was saying that it could easily be interpreted as a massive scum pairing between us, and it could just as easily be a pro-town player who would of said the same things.

brocolli i believe you forgot the each night you CAN switch roles.

Unvote... if voting, Vote xdaamno

No argument presented.

Eh, Jenter, there's been some good arguments against you and you're whining about the role a little too much. I don't like it. You're on my scumdar (Though not higher than the guy with the... reghfjrick name )

So.. Why do you think raj is scummyer than Jenter?

As I answered, because all of his arguments are wrong (From my POV).

Haha I actually do think that Xdaemno is scum.

unvote, vote Xdaemno

Saying how it is consistent with pro-town play and anti-town play is what I have said before as scum in another game.

Possibly the worst argument presented against myself. I say this almost in every game I play in, including those where I'm pro-town. Plus, it's more than a perfectly valid explanation that I gave.

@JDodge: Just pointing out the good points when the bad points are obvious is a stupid idea. I'm being honest.

Ms Piggy: I'll provide you with a source of when I've said this before, hopefully the game is finished. I say it a lot, and apparently so do you, so my conclusion is it's a common phrase that would be said by either side.

The bad points are not obvious.

Looking back at what I was talking about, what do you mean? The connection between me and Jenter (the bad point) is certainly obvious, which is why I pointed it out.

Oh wait, you mean the possible setup where I staged a RC for Jenter, and got deathmiller? Admittedly, it wasn't obvious, but if I became under attack (I.e. somebody looked back at my posts) I knew someone would bring this up and it'd be huge evidence against me.

Okay after a reread, the broccoli-xdaamno scum pair really gives me a bad vibe. also, xdaamnos downplay doesnt help. pointing out that something you say sounds scummy doesnt make you less of a scum in my mind. It just looks like your trying to down play said scummy statement.

vote: xdaamno

for the time being. broccoli seems just as scummy to me, but we will never know whether he was telling the truth or not if we lynch him day 1. i think we will hafta see what he claims tomorrow.

So you're arguing a jenter/xdaamno pairing? Fair enough, I don't have much to defend this with since there does certainly look like one. In all my games, however, I'm often not afraid to say things even if it does connect me with other players (See the newbies... 'Better the second time around', with Arvetis, I think).

pointing out that something you say sounds scummy doesnt make you less of a scum in my mind.

Just to point out, remember that this is the only piece of evidence against me in the entire game, apart from a connection with Jenter. Do you see the flaw in this? For that connection to be a scum tell,

Jenter must be scum.

Since Jenter has far more evidence than yours truly, wouldn't that mean

Jenter

would be the better lynch?

So here you say Jenter is scum.

FTR, I don't want to lynch Jenter. While I don't believe Jenter is the most pro-town player in the game,

I certainly don't believe Jenter's scum.

Here you don't. Trying to cover up your scumpartner or something?

Vote : Xdaamno

All that in the same post?[/b]

Looks like a misunderstanding to me. I wasn't saying 'Jenter must be scum' literally, I was saying 'If X is to be true, Jenter must be scum'.

[Xdaamno]

I believe another helpful way out of this for me is to claim what I submitted. NK Bomb; (And possible lynch bomb; I submitted this but it was probably overpowered, not sure) This is clearly a pro-town role, so if anyone has this, probably don't roleclaim but know that I'm not scum.

[Xdaamno]

Also, Piggy just jumped on my scumdar. The roleblocker claim looked like it was designed to incriminate me, and I don't think there's that much chance of there being two roleblockers. Plus, faking a post restriction for no apparent reason 'Just to mess with us' is clearly not pro-town.

[Xdaamno]

what we should be looking at is helpfullness to the town, and Xdaamno isnt helpfull

Have you actually read most of my posts? Before I came under attack I was easily one of the most helpful players. I looked into almost every point and applied pressure to loads of people to guage reactions. Seriously, go back and check.

[Xdaamno]

There's still a few things I don't particularly like about Piggy, but I guess that clears him a little. The faking a PR thing was just silly.

[Xdaamno]

Now I look back, dylan, you've been one of our most infrequent posters. Could you please go into a little more detail about your role (I see no way in this could currently help scum)?

[Xdaamno]

We can't even trustthe authenticity of it, or even if we all got the same one.

[Xdaamno]

Mmkay. No more info... but just don't take it for granted.

[Xdaamno]

EBWOP: And I meant we don't know if the scumz got it too.

[Xdaamno]

Dylan, that's just repeating what I'm saying.

FOS: Dylan

Unnesecary repetition coupled with a small implication he didn't recieve the PM/dosen't like it's contents (Though I of course could be wrong about this).

[Xdaamno]

No, we haven't. The scum haven't learned anything more than the first few posts, and I'm following up a scum trail that could lead to important info.

[Xdaamno]

...?

Don't take offence, it's just a game.

[Xdaamno]

No, we haven't. The scum haven't learned anything more than the first few posts, and I'm following up a scum trail that could lead to important info.

I get the feeling that is WAY off.

... Uhm?

[Xdaamno]

Vote: rajrhcpfreak

Bad arguments.

Looks like a very stupid vote.

For what reason? You've voted without much reasoning at all too, you know, so I could easily say the same about you.

Heh. I find it funny those under attack label things such as 'Piggy's votes were pressure' completely stupid or scummy. I think not realising that he wasn't actually trying to lynch someone (Because there's only two conceivable reasons for a vote, in normal play: Wanting to lynch or applying pressure) is the stupid/scummy part.

Basically repeats what other people say.

Complete bs. I was the first person to say that.

For the record. rajrhcpfreak is my lynch for today, if I was forced to choose.

Mmkay. That's either PRed townie or sympathy scum. Probably the former, IMO.

none of this is helpful.

I know, it's practically nomrla conversation. Once again, I could look back at your posts and find more than two where you haven't made a massivly strong argument.

Unvote, vote rajrhcpfreak

Right, he votes Ms piggy for hopping, when I do the same and am persuaded to think differently by Xdaammo he calls it scummy and a 'good catch'. Logical ****.

He then blatantly tries to get me speedlynched. Saying someone, anyone, is the play for today on PAGE 3 is ridiculous.

Basically these are my reasons for thinking he is scum.

i said that theos observations were a good catch.

speed lynch? ha. you wont be speed lynched unless you refuse to claim. my statements saying "your the play" is just to convince people to bandwagon you to a claim. then we can decide if your lying.

Eh, where do I start. He won't be speed lynched if or if not he refuses to claim; that's loaded. Whether he's scum or he has a role that shouldn't be claimed strategically, I'd still not speedlynch him, since we can't distinguish between the two.

page 3? well, i represent a growing sentiment on this site that doesn't fool around, a group on this site that enjoys fast games. and why shouldn't we bandwagon you to claim if we've found scum on page 3.

Also crap logic. Bandwagoning to claim is the alleged way of finding out whether he's scum. You can't bandwagon him for being scum if you haven't even got the claim yet.

personally i don't want to sit around masturbating in my own words for twenty pages waiting for scum to trip me up and convince the town to lynch me on a stupid technicality. your actions today, following the front runners and agreeing with them comes out pretty scummy. and your tag team effort with Xdaammo is intriguing. i want to say its on the scummy side but ill wait to judge it after we deal with you.

And this is the worst part. It seems, in every game where I trust someone, it gets pounced on (And always by scum so far). Is it

really

that hard to believe I find a player with good points trustworthy instead of me (allegedly) latching onto my scum partner for help and hoping nobody would notice? An annoying part of mafia scum it's people's trust of well-known conscious scum tells. Since they're conscious and well-known forms an oxymoron; if they're well known scum tells, they wouldn't consciously be performed.

Horrible post. Talks like speedlynching actually could happen.

Got me mixed up with rajhgifck here? My parts are in bold. I don't mention speedlynching once it that paragraph.

-_-'

It was a

lot

more helpful telling us, anyway, thanks. The problem is you've just made a massive scum pairing between me and you if you get lynched, because you're either scum or telling the truth XD

That is scummy in my opinion, for reasons.

For reasons you decide not to tell us? I meant if anyone would look back, they'd see a massive unitentional scum pairing. Me stating this would help me in futurew if anyone brought it up. 'For reasons' is just stupid.

I'm actually looking at the people attacking me now mainly because it's so sheepish and ridiculous. JDodge has given a terrible point, and others have latched on without any additional reasons.

Instead of trying to defend against the votes on you, you say other people are making terrible points.

Your defense against the posts were just saying that you fully presented and defended the arguments, which was completely bull.

Uhm, NO to your first paragraph. What I did was defend JDodge's point,

and then

say this. I didn't defend it twice because that wouyld be unnesecary. This is grasping.

When I sat I've fully defended something, it's because I already have in the past, not because I'm doing it in the current post. You've taken a single post that wasn't even a defense and accused it for lack of a defense when I already had made one.

what we should be looking at is helpfullness to the town, and Xdaamno isnt helpfull

Have you actually read most of my posts? Before I came under attack I was easily one of the most helpful players. I looked into almost every point and applied pressure to loads of people to guage reactions. Seriously, go back and check.

More and more. Just silly.

My god, the stupidity of anyone who believes this stuff is horrible. 'More and more, Just Silly'? What kind of attack is that? There hasn't beena single peice of undeniable evidence against me, and I've just easily knocked down every single argument in this whole post. If you still believe I'm scum and you're town, you shoulda joined a newbie game instead

[Xdaamno]

I really don't like your responses. You either said complete bull about how that's all not true, or said everything was stupid and how others are horrible if they want to vote you and think you're scum.

Uhm, no I didn't, I presented completely valid arguments. How about you actually read them? Almost every single one of your posts has attempted to lynch me, but not actually put any good points across.

[Xdaamno]

EBWOP: For clarification, I did say things were bull and not true, but I had sown that into my actual arguments. You make it sound like I was just denying things rather than proving them wrong.

[Xdaamno]

Ms. Piggy, I can't be arsed to argue with you, so I'll play as if you haven't said anything (Which theoretically will let you see me in my normal state rather than my defensive state).

[Xdaamno]

That was a

hammer

?

Vote: Worst town ever. I'm not scum.

[Xdaamno]

...

Does it really make me that bad if I was lynched with almost no reasoning, and was playing almost exactly the same as I usually do? Schis, have some humility on this one. I won't comment any further on the game/players (Since I'm not allowed), but every time

anyone

makes a mistake on this site they're much too quick to blame it on others.

[Xdaamno]

Ahhah... I should of counted them myself. I'm alive... >.<

kinda funny you said that when you were attacking me for how i usually played.

You're attacking me for the sake of attacking me. Provide a reference or two, and I guess I'll prove either how it differs, or how I'm wrong.

[Xdaamno]

I've definatly got Jenter/Panzer at the top, but before either of them gets lynched, I'd like people to take a re-read and see I wasn't defending Jenter as much as you thought I was, it seems. Mentally I've never had a note of his as more pro-town then anyone else, so I think this might have been blown out of proportion (I might have to re-read my

own

game to see what this looked like).

[Xdaamno]

EBWOP: I know, I cringe at how strong the Jenter/Xdaamno connection looks especially just then, and I honestly don't know how to explain it. We're not connected in any way, that's all I can say.

[Xdaamno]

Ugm, because it's being friggin honest? What's wrong with covering my ass? Sure, I want coverage agaisnt Xdaamno/Jenter connections, because I don't want to get lynched, first off. Are you arguing not wanting to be lynched is a scum tell?

There's been a few player who have unrelentlessly attacked me and I've

yet

to see a good reason. By doing that you're also implying that I faked not knowing I was lynched, or lied after I thought I had, correct? You to have missed the fact many other players thought I had been lynched too, and I find it strange my longer post after I thought I was lynched isn't your main point of attack (Since if that's honest, it's near impossible for me to be scum).

[Xdaamno]

Why does one need to cover their ass if they are town? Why would one claim what role they made for no reason? Explain how they guy that was being defended by the guy who stated what role he made, magically got his role. Wow what a coincidence.

Whadya mean 'Why would one need to cover their ass if they're town'? XD

I'm convering my ass so you don't all get my motives wrong and lynch me. It's practically the same as saying 'Why would one need to avoid being lynched if they're town'.

And, I was specifically asked to say what role I made, IIRC. It was by Jenter, but I didn't have the current suspiscion of Jenter back then, so I went along with it.

[Xdaamno]

I'm more sure of Panzer than Jenter, and my vote's just sitting around, so:

Unvote

Vote: Panzerjager

[Xdaamno]

Why would you go along with it? Are you saying if he asked you what your role was you would have claimed right then and there? I believe you slipped up. And you didn't answer me, why am I scummy? Why are you sure of me?

Ooh, what an

intelligent

and thought out post; you didn't even need to check what actually happened, apparently.

I was under attack. I said what role I entered because of two reasons:

A) To help defend myself, and let someone know I'm town.

B) Because, looking back at it, it's almost impossible for the scum to get any good information from it, and there's no drawbacks to saying so.

EBWOP: They act of covering your ass is something one does when they are in doubt of there actions. Why are you doubting your actions if they are protown?

Oh common, this is obvious grasping. By covering my own ass, I meant I was taking out insurance if anybody would misinterpret my post. How... exactly does that mean I doubt my actions? And even if I did, how would it be anti-town to do so? Townies are much more likely to be unsure of their actions anyway, because they don't have a clear knowledge of anyone else's alignment, while the scum have a certain objective.

[Xdaamno]

And btw, my scum list in order of scuminess:

Panzer
Ms. Piggy
Jenter

Jenter's recent points leave some of the more recent arguments open, but does a good job covering the past ones. For some reason, I had almost completely forgotten Ms. Piggy (I can't remember if you've not been posting much recently or something), but there's a much stronger case against you.

Now, if three or more people oppose what I'm saying, I'll know something's probably wrong. Otherwise, I'm sticking to my gut.

[Xdaamno]

While I was a bit lazier yesterday, I don't think I've changed that much? Eh, whatever, I'm not complaining.

And

I

don't like my connections/distancing with Jenter, either. I don't intentionally put them there, but I don't like deleting my arguments when I read over them. The main defense I can give is: Distancing and Connecting are conscious points made by scum, who hope nobody noticed them. If I was scum, would I make such obvious ones and even point the out myself?

I guess you could call WIFOM on that, but there's nothing much else to say.

[Xdaamno]

Ooh, I didn't notice that. Explanation, Jenter? Or would you atleast hint at your 'reason'?

Note to raj, it's not because he's scum and he can't tell you, that's stupid

[Xdaamno]

Also, definatly looking at schis as a suspect. He heavily attacked me and has put me at number 3, stating 1 & 2 are close, implying I'm not close. Don't know what triggered this MASSIVE change of opinion, but it seems that as soon as somebody lets off me he takes back his entire attack.

[Xdaamno]

Eh. Pretty bad timing, but I'm going as well:

Posting this in all my games. I'm having a surprise vacation from this Monday (the 23rd), for about one week, and if I have any internet access at all I'll be lucky. I don't particularly want to be replaced in all my games, so mods; please talk to me before you do anything drastic, since I'm still here for 3/4 more days.

[Xdaamno]

EBWOP (In all games >.>): Just found out I'll still have internet access, after making a few phone calls, so I'll be fine.

Eh, thanks anyway Ms Piggy, but you haven't got rid of me yet (jk )

[Xdaamno]

Pbp's piss you off because they're too long and repeat what other people have said? The more information the better, and they compile all the information into one block, while adding more 0_o

[Xdaamno]

Raj, if you're attacking Jenter, you're expected to make an argument.

Not that I'm directly defending Jenter or anything, but you need to convince me.

[Xdaamno]

xdaamno take me of ignor kthxbai

... Huh?

[Xdaamno]

Yes, we are getting somewhere, IMO, you're just too cliche

cream, what did you mean by your last sentence?

And when you next hear from me, I'll be on vacation.

[Xdaamno]

Just before I go, I checked the thread and

You ummm missed the post above you?

No, I didn't. I thought the reason was obvious

[Xdaamno]

Woo, found some internets.




<<<Guardian's Flavor





Panzer, your denial the attempted hammer ever happened is hilarious

You were about to hammer a townie with 1 line of reasoning, without anyone being able to do anything about it, and now you haven't even mentioned it and are trying to forget it happened?

[Xdaamno]

Just butting in to say I'm fine with a roleclaim, followed by a role-submitted claim, as long as we do both and we can in 14 days.

[Xdaamno]

Alright and just for the town's information, Schism has a vendetta against me(anyone who has been in Scumchat while me and him are should know that it's a bloodbath). Hence why he has been on me for virtually no reason.

This hilariously links two of the most suspiscious players IMO together

[Xdaamno]

I submitted a bastard role for the purpose of using my power to submit roles as a weapon. Let's say Dylan is scum, I killed scum as the role I am currently. I didn't quick hammer in 416, I said "when Elias lays his vote I'm going to hammer." If you read the game you would have noticed this. Yes I did it in 462..nuff said. This game I didn't attempt , I was down. I won't change my mind on Jenter. Tar, even you must admit I have a decent scumdar. When we were scum togethor didn't I found the only scum that wasn't us, and didn't I attack him relentless? You have to give me points for that.

And I think I might claim, I'm a bodyguard. I can protect someone but if that person is targetted, I die instead. If anything don't lynch me so I can save dylan, although he could be scum.

I'm almost resigned from this game simply because this guy hasn't been lynched yet.

[Xdaamno]

'Look, another ego-filled teenager who thinks he's better than everyone else by exaggerating my very first complaint in the game' should suffice, methinks?

[Xdaamno]

Panzer, do you actually know the concept

behind

appeal to emotion? -_-'

Appeal to emotion is where you go for the hearts of the other players to get them on your side, such as doing the 'woe is me' act. Getting angry with someone simply turns them against you, so it's impossible for it to be an appeal to emotion. The only reason you'd say it is is because you're looking for reason to lynch someone else, an 'anyone but me' attitude. I'm up for Panzer's lynch.

[Xdaamno]

Jenter, I agree with you on Raj, but the problem I have with him is he seems to do this in all of his games town or scum. It's just his playstyle from what i can tell (Albeit a very terrible one).

[Xdaamno]

but the problem I have with him

Fixed.

but the problem I have with

lynching

him

[Xdaamno]

No...?

If his vote dosen't count, it's -2, if it does, it's -1

[Xdaamno]

Jenter, I was suspiscious of you last night because dylan looked like hammering scum and your last two posts seem to only briefly touch on that when he was the hot topic, giving me a dylan/jenter pairing. As dylan is town, I'm not sure what to think.

[Xdaamno]

EBWOP: Also metagaming the mods post, I very rarely see 'With no known voting irregularities'. Did he say that yesterday?

[Xdaamno]

Raj's latest post makes absolutely no sense whatsoever, and since the day's only just started it's possible he made his plans of who to target during the night...

Or, alternatively, I'm wrong. Either way that post makes no sense.

[Xdaamno]

Strong FOS: Kira

Huge newbie scum tell, similar to the 'well done doc' or things like that.

[Xdaamno]

FOS: Zodiac

Stop fishing.

[Xdaamno]

Oh, the king of the 'fishing' tell is telling me not to use it?

[Xdaamno]

Grasping. I don't vote much in any of my games, and I'm a very reserved player. How would FOSs and no votes be a scum tell anyway? A FOS and a vote mean exactly the same things, but with FOSs we have a smaller chance of quicklynches etc.

[Xdaamno]

Cpe is being idiotic, and he knows it. Don't you

Now just to find out why...?

[Xdaamno]

Boing-Fwip

[Xdaamno]

I assumed so, and I responded with 'I'd be ready to lynch both of you too'.

[Xdaamno]

Jenter is fairly near the top of my scum list, atm, and would be my lynch for today, despite what I've said so far. I'd have cold feet on all wagons apart from his.

[Xdaamno]

@Jenter; Surprisingly, it's hard to sum up. This'd be a lot easier to explain if I wasn't expected to go and refer to previous posts, like in scumchat.

[Xdaamno]

I'm not

too

worried about having the two village idiots on my wagon at the moment.

[Xdaamno]

I'm not

too

worried about having the two village idiots on my wagon at the moment.

what was the point of that?

The point of that was to express my feelings about who's on my wagon. Why, is there any reason I should

not

have posted that?

[Xdaamno]

/replace cpe. It's hard to play games when people are being douches

[Xdaamno]

Kira, could you give us an analysis of a few players so we can see what your thoughts are?

[Xdaamno]

No, that's basically all they have to say.

[Xdaamno]

Unvote Vote: cpe

Obviously the only way we can find a motive is a bandwagon.

[Xdaamno]

You're suggesting otherwise?

I'm willing to put things on hold to find out cpe's reasoning, because he's pushing so strongly.

[Xdaamno]

... What?

Stop making an idiot of yourself. I'm not saying he's scum, infact since I see this (stupid) play a lot from (often experienced) townies, I'm thinking the opposite. It's just fairly obvious that giving his reasoning will help, and that he's not going to get a lynch otherwise.

[Xdaamno]

... What?

Stop making an idiot of yourself. I'm not saying he's scum, infact since I see this (stupid) play a lot from (often experienced) townies, I'm thinking the opposite. It's just fairly obvious that giving his reasoning will help, and that he's not going to get a lynch otherwise.

YES

EVERYONE WHO DOESN'T GIVE REASONING WHEN ASKED IS SCUM

I'm not saying he's scum, infact since I see this (stupid) play a lot from (often experienced) townies, I'm thinking the opposite.

It's just fairly obvious that giving his reasoning will help, and that he's not going to get a lynch otherwise.

[Xdaamno]

Shouldn't raj be the first one to give such a list, if so? It kinda makes sense, IMO.