I have been jumped aand bandwagoned on to for taking one piece of advice from one player. I (and he) have then come under constant pressure while mny other players have just bandwagoned, looked town and stayed invisible.
Most players in this game seem to have rushed like a herd of sheep to the lynch mob. What evidence is there really against me? I don't play well under pressure, and I'm orry about that.
Ms Piggy and Raj have some interesting pair tells;
good catch theo.
unvote
vote Jenter Broccoli
This was after a post detailing a single vote and unvote of Ms Piggy after Xdaamo pointed out that it wasn't reqally a very good scumtell.
yes piggys votes aren't applying pressure. and zdaamno's defense is on the stupid/scummy side.
BUT Broccoli is staying back and agreeing what ever the town believes.
Broccoli is the play. but it is worth mentioning that JDodge is trying distract us with a panzer-wagon. panzer hasn't done anything scummy enough to deserve a vote.
I did a single vote and unvote on a very minor early play feature which someone pointed out wasn't a scumtell. How about the millions who flocked to the CPE wagon? How about Piggy votehopping like a razed rabbit? This is no evidence to base a lynch on, an FoS possibly, but a lynch?
'Broccoli is the play' - Raj has evidently decided who to lynch and go after on page 3 - WAY too early to know, if he's town... He also tries to focus supicion on me and stop others it moving around to look at the rest of the players.
Jenter is a problem. He voted me for a stupid reason, then right when Xdaemno told him that what I did was not scummy, he quickly unvoted.
unvote, vote Jenter Broccoli
And you votehopped all over the place like a jumping jack, and now you accuse me of voting for stupid reasons why? We were barely out of the RV stage, It was a minor play based on your annoying tactic of votehopping so much. Not voteworthy. Also this is really repeating Raj's arguments...
T_C post here;
Jenter Brolincani wrote:
Going with town I have have not been doing. I randomed pan, voted Piggy for hopping, X pointed out that would not be a scum play so I unvoted. If I was scum going with the flow I'd have tried to get a CPE lynch as it would probably (assuming not all scum were already on the wagon) have been so easy by that point...
I don't like the way rajrhcpfreak is acting all leadrish all of a sudden, he looks like he's trying to dictate the way the town plays.
I got the suckiest role in suckyland...
Some points.
1) A CPE lynch would not have been easy. He had what 4 votes - you'd look pretty scummy for joining a wagon so soon.
I believe it was 5, at 7 to lynch it could have been quite easy really...
2) Broccoli you say your not going with town, but you follow Raj with his vote on Piggy, then you quickly listen to Xdammno who calls you both out on it. Which is pretty blatant following
That was a semirandom vote for a very minor part of his play, when X ponted out it wasn't a scumtell in the first place I unvoted. Not really desperately following town, bandwagoning, lynch jumping, or anything of that sort.
3) Raj seems fine to me.
He didn't to me. WHY does he seem fine to you?
4) Appeal to emotion already, my we have caught scum quick.
Appeal to emotion? wtf?
Jenter Brolincani wrote:
Unvote, vote rajrhcpfreak
Right, he votes Ms piggy for hopping, when I do the same and am persuaded to think differently by Xdaammo he calls it scummy and a 'good catch'. Logical ****.
He then blatantly tries to get me speedlynched. Saying someone, anyone, is the play for today on PAGE 3 is ridiculous.
Basically these are my reasons for thinking he is scum.
i said that theos observations were a good catch.
Well that seems to be obvious...
speed lynch? ha. you wont be speed lynched unless you refuse to claim. my statements saying "your the play" is just to convince people to bandwagon you to a claim. then we can decide if your lying.
'You're the play' generally is taken to mean 'you're the lynch'. I don't see why at this pint you would need me to claim unless you need to suss out my role for your own ends... Also, if you bandwagon me to claim before you really have any other evidence, how the **** do you expect to be able to make a decision about whether or not I'm lying?
page 3? well, i represent a growing sentiment on this site that doesn't fool around, a group on this site that enjoys fast games. and why shouldn't we bandwagon you to claim if we've found scum on page 3.
You can't really know if you've found scum on page 3 unless yo are scum. Also you have no way to tell if I'm scum after I've claimed unless you have information from a decent, logical few pages of play to look back on.
personally i don't want to sit around masturbating in my own words for twenty pages waiting for scum to trip me up and convince the town to lynch me on a stupid technicality. your actions today, following the front runners and agreeing with them comes out pretty scummy. and your tag team effort with Xdaammo is intriguing. i want to say its on the scummy side but ill wait to judge it after we deal with you.
So your playstyle is to run in and speedlynch with under 50% information or play to look back on, and oops, you lynched a townie, lets look at how he played in the 2 pages of play you gave him befor bludering into a protracted struggle to ignore all other players and get him lynched.
In the next bit Jdodge picks up on a point about Xdaamo, and there are a few posts against me which I will address;
CPE;
brocolli i believe you forgot the each night you CAN switch roles. Unvote... if voting, Vote xdaamno
If I get lynched today I can't switch can I?
Pan;
You can switch at night? I didn't know that.
And Jdodge, when you send in the role name and ability if he nameclaims I know what he is. Mine was very modified because night wasn't anypart of the role being dying was. I was hoping Scum would get it.
Daamo lately has been acting very very scummy, but to me a Deathmiller claim at -2 from lynch or -3 from lynch is trash. Daamo and Jenter are scum. I think Daamo tried to give his buddy Jenter an out and Jenter screwed it up. Why else admit your role with no pressure .
Um.. does people trying to get me speedlynched count as no pressure? In my experience it is quie easy at the last few (1-2) votes of a wagon for scum to breeze over claims (he's just a scum covering up, let's go ahead and lynch) and set up the lynch really easily.
Just look at the way they did that. They had no fear and then jenter screwed it up just enough for daamo to really give himself away.
Piggy;
Haha I actually do think that Xdaemno is scum.
unvote, vote Xdaemno
Saying how it is consistent with pro-town play and anti-town play is what I have said before as scum in another game.
NO reasoning here, he's just still hopping like a jackrabbot to see who's gonna get bandwagoned first. He's also following Raj like a puppy.
Piggy once more;
Xdaamno wrote:
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If I (One of the most prolific and honest posters) get lynched by you bunch of sheep, I wish I could nominate this for worst town performance.
Roleclaim: Roleblocker
That's definitely a bunch of crap. You aren't honest if you're scum.
By the way, I don't have a PR, I was just playing with you all as it was the random stage. Do you really think someone would make a bastard PR?
So for you the random stage goes on for several pages more than us? And you voted me for making a crappy serious vote on page 2 when you had not yet even formulated your PR story? Quite honestly I think this is just a ploy to disguise his bandagon hopping which he then drops when he thinks nobody's gonna care or notice any more...
I'm a pro-town roleblocker, and I really would now like to know just WHO made a roleblocker role, and if it's possible that there are actually two people who would make such a not self cool role.
Wht is wrong with RBer? It's useful for protwn as they can probably stop the scumkill if there are enough of them
Keep the votes going on, people!
For what reason? There has been no reasoning in any of your posts so far... this sounds like you just want a speedlynch.
I really don't believe Xdaemno right now, though.
Why?
And back to Raj;
dylan, you've made your point. not help with the current situation. just trying to save your self isnt very helpful to the town.
now the switch from jenter to xdaamno is interesting. ill have to reread these arguments before i jump on.
I don't see too much problem with this, just an infill post really.
And this one;
well the current situation is:
voting for jenter or zdaamno.
who do you think is scum?
do you know in mafia you vote people out?
because your only vote is a random vote.
Why should either of us necessarily be scum? Any one of these players could be scum and you are essentially instructing Dylan to vote one of us 2, without trying to use logical arguments or anything...
The next bit is VERY interesting. There's the PM sent out, Zodiac asks what people got, there are 2 votes on, and people start questioning, then...
Xdaamno wrote:
I believe another helpful way out of this for me is to claim what I submitted. NK Bomb; (And possible lynch bomb; I submitted this but it was probably overpowered, not sure) This is clearly a pro-town role, so if anyone has this, probably don't roleclaim but know that I'm not scum.
Seriously, I think Xdaemno needs to go.
unvote, vote Xdaemno
Back to him.
And Piggy successfully stifles that line of enquiry to try and get back to his obsession with the daamo/me scenario. stifling discussion and keeping everyone always on the rails towards a single lynch is NEVER good town play.
Piggy and daamo skirmish for a bit...
(sorry, got to log off now, will finish tomorrow)
