Mini 413 - Famous CATS - Over! Quit pussyfooting around!

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

because letting scum know I inherit your restrictions is such an amazingly good play.

[Nai]

So, in other words, you lied about your role?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I didn't say that.

I said it'd be really stupid to let the scum know the full details of my role

[Nai]

... You've got to be kidding me. We have to lynch correctly today or we probably lose and you are saying you're hiding details of your role?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

You've got to be kidding me. you already said you didn't believe me and you thought I was scum and this was before I even went over my role there so either

A) I get lynched in which case my role info doesnt bloody matter

or

B) I don't get lynched in which case it'd be a good freaking thing that the mafia don't know how my role works in regards to inheriting restrictions because then they wouldn't know if they could quicklynch me tommorrow or not.

Honestly Nai are you that dense? It makes no bloody sense for me to say that I do inherit your restrictions even if I DO INHERIT THEM BECAUSE THIS INFORMATION CAN ONLY BE USED TO HURT THE TOWN.

[Nai]

No, I'm not that dense. I've come to the conclusion there's no way you can be town. Town wouldn't withhold information at a time that is, more or less, lynch or lose. All the cards should be on the table, and you've been keeping some up your sleeve. That's not a townie action.

At end of day, one of two things happens:

A.) You're scum who's been adding things to his story in hopes of being able to convince town, and failed.

B.) You're a sucky town that has no idea how important information is to town, and has no idea how insult the rest of the town screws up his credibility.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

or C) I'm a town who actually thinks about what I should or should not reveal instead of blindly revealing everything.

There are numerous examples of times when a protown player claiming a power role shouldn't share all information about that power role with the rest of the town because that information

can only hurt the town

because it makes the scum more aware of what their options are.

It makes absolutely no sense for me to reveal whether I inherit your restrictions or negative liabilities when I use my replacement ability because THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Contd, pressed submit by accident.

THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO CAN USE THAT INFORMATION IN ANY WAY IS THE SCUM.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Look Nai, think for a second,

Either 1 of 2 things is going to happen today.

1) I get lynched -=> It doesn't matter whether I tell the truth because I'm DEAD and my role is DEAD WITH ME.

2) You get lynched, I replace you, if you're town and are what you say you are, tommorrow the scum have a choice of either trying to quicklynch me or not trying to quicklynch me. They don't KNOW at that point whether I am quicklynchable, if they try to go for the quicklynch, they'd reveal themselves, this uncertainty is to our ADVANTAGE, it is GOOD FOR THE TOWN THAT THE SCUM DO NOT KNOW WHETHER I AM QUICKLYNCHABLE AT THAT POINT OR NOT!!

The town has nothing to gain from me coming clean and everything to lose.

Think about what you post before you post it next time.

[Nai]

The town has EVERYTHING to gain if they know what happens. If someone isn't sure you are scum, it changes their thoughts of lynching you if you inherit disadvantages. That makes your role more believable. It also changes what the plan is for tomorrow. IF we dont lynch you and you replace me, we NEED to know if we're in danger of quick lynch or not. If we know the scum is going to try to quick-lynch you regardless, it'd be good for the town to know if we need to attempt something on our own.

A LOT of information and strategy changes with this information, and I can't believe you didn't reveal it before. The only reason I can see you not giving up this information at this point is because you are scum. You've had plenty of time to give it to us, so you must have JUST made it up to make yourself more plausable.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

That would've sounded more impressive if you hadn't been hellbent on lynching me before I even clarified the point, you flat out wouldn't have believed me either way and you know it and that minor point isn't going to be the lynchpin that gets me lynched or not.

There are some things it just doesn't make sense to tell the scum.

This is one of them.

[Nai]

Oh, I admit, there was some doubt in my mind that you were the correct lynch. Thanks to you, that doubt is assuaged. Thanks.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

doesn't matter because you would be voting me whether I had said it or not.

[Nai]

... Wow. You're really missing the point. As usual.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I could say the same about you...

almost only counts in hand grenades and horseshoes, lynching somebody is niether.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

And you still aren't reading my posts. It's already been said, several times, by your buddy DGB there, that his claim is like a flying pumpkin with lasers. It's not a very believable claim unless one of two things happens. He finds scum and reveals them, getting them lynched, thus getting the town to know he's town. Or he breadcrumbs so people know he's not just pulling it out of his ass so he can have time to find scum for the town.

So are you saying that if he had not breadcrumbed, you would not believe his roleclaim?

[Skruffs]

work is keeping me busy, will post more moremore tonight

[Skruffs]

OR maybe today instead.
Pookie's main defense is that Glork is fake claiming - which makes sense, because that's Glork's main attack, is that he has a guilty on him.
Nai is telling the truth about her role (verified by the mod) which means that we are in a lylo situation and possibly can only win if we lynch correctly today.

Glork targeted Pookie last night, we also have proof of that. Nobody else has claimed the ability to give gifts, so the gift I got last night was from DGB. Assuming that nobody has the ability to target twice, those two players did not target Massive last night.

I targeted Theo, and Theo claims to have not targeted anyone. Nai claimed to have had a one shot vig that she used night two. Pookie claims to have had a one-shot that hasn't been used yet. Mistef has claimed a one-shot investigation that he used on Glork and showed him as town. None of these claims can be verified.

Carbon Copy has a gift but has not mentioned anything about what it is or if he has been using it. I asked and got scolded for fishing. He's on vacation and will respond when he's back.

Primate targeted Massive two nights ago and rececived an extra life for it. I think it's unlikely he would kill a townie that gives him extra lives, so Massive probably wasn't killed by Primate.

I believe that one of Carbon Copy, Mistef, Nai, Pookie, Skruffs, and Theo killed Massive last night, if we assume that players can not do two actions at once. Actually, crap. Gifts from DGB allow players to take more than one action on more than one player. So there's no way to limit who did what last night. &@$@#%$!!!!

Nevermind.

[Nai]

Right now is probably time for anyone to come out with anything they can. Which should include Carbon Copy's ability, I think. We need to know what we have.

[Primate]

vote pooky

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

thank god.

[bertrand]

END OF ETERNITY oopsimeant DAY 3 vote count:

Pooky (5, -0): Glork, Miztef, Nai, Skruffs, Primate

Nai (1, -2): DrippingGoofball
DrippingGoofball (1, -4): theopor_COD
Glork (1, -4) PookyTheMagicalBear

Not voting: everyone else.

After hours, days and eons od debate, the feline population of Minto decides that Pooky must leave. Realizing he has no other choice, he obliges, revealing his identity as

Garfield, the Lazy Glutton

(scum) along the way.

IT IS NOW NIGHT 3. PLEASE SEND ME YOUR CHOICES ASAP

Let's try to keep this one under a week

[bertrand]

ALL NIGHT CHOICES MUST BE IN BY SATURDAY OR ELSE I WILL CHOOSE FOR YOU AND IT MIGHT NOT BE OPTIMAL



I will be away from Monday to Thursday this week. I should be on Friday night. That's why I want to get the day started by then.

[bertrand]

The following letter has been found:

No
Yes
Yes

Also, everyone who went to sleep is now awake! Woohoo!

IT IS NOW DAY 4.

[Glork]

Alright... before anyone does anything, I want to hear thoughts/statements from DGB, Theo, and Skruffs.



What are your thoughts on the game state right now, kids?