The War to End All Freaktowns: GAME OVER

[Battle Mage]

Why Jdodge first?

Because BM doesn't like JD (or me for that matter).

nah i love you BBB.

[Flameaxe]

BBB ISN'T HERE.

[Battle Mage]

BBB ISN'T HERE.

i meant you. lol
sometimes people on here are referred to by their AIM names.

[Albert B. Rampage]

BBB ISN'T HERE.

i meant you. lol
sometimes people on here are referred to by their AIM names.

No, they aren't.

[rajrhcpfreak]

BBB ISN'T HERE.

i meant you. lol
sometimes people on here are referred to by their AIM names.

No, they aren't.

*cough*jathan*cough*

hey im not doing a vote count for this page.

and using aim names is stupid.

[JDodge]

BBB ISN'T HERE.

i meant you. lol
sometimes people on here are referred to by their AIM names.

BBB isn't here

[Albert B. Rampage]

BBB ISN'T HERE.

i meant you. lol
sometimes people on here are referred to by their AIM names.

No, they aren't.

*cough*jathan*cough*

hey im not doing a vote count for this page.

and using aim names is stupid.

Jathan is stupid!

[rajrhcpfreak]

BBB ISN'T HERE.

i meant you. lol
sometimes people on here are referred to by their AIM names.

No, they aren't.

*cough*jathan*cough*

hey im not doing a vote count for this page.

and using aim names is stupid.

Jathan is stupid!

not as much as the people who refer to him by his aim name on the forums.

[Albert B. Rampage]

BBB ISN'T HERE.

i meant you. lol
sometimes people on here are referred to by their AIM names.

No, they aren't.

*cough*jathan*cough*

hey im not doing a vote count for this page.

and using aim names is stupid.

Jathan is stupid!

not as much as the people who refer to him by his aim name on the forums.

Namely BM...

[Blight]

Holy wagonshifts batman!

don't panic. your buddy K-Scope is still 8 from a lynch.

Sorry. I don't like that statement. It set off all sorts of alarm bells.

Unvote, Vote: BM

Also, what's the point of sharing what items we have? We don't know what any of the items do.

I know there are some people that receive bonuses from certain items, but I can only see that helping scum because they can see who has what and then kill whomever they need to to pick up a certain item. I don't see it helping town at all.

[Mastermind of Sin]

Although if the scum kill someone, we can try and pick up the items before the scum get them, since we already know what that person had.

[Mariyta]

I have no problem going first. If everyone else is ok with it, I'll go.

[Mastermind of Sin]

We should wait to see if there is any more dissent.

[Kilroy8675309]

I'm all right with an item claim.

[Blight]

Although if the scum kill someone, we can try and pick up the items before the scum get them, since we already know what that person had.

But, we don't know what the scum would need to pick up their bonuses.

I think I'm still missing something. How does an item claim help town?

[the silent speaker]

Sorry I'm so late -- somehow every time I checked the board my eye slid right over the thread.

Important bandwagons to look at:

K-scope
Mariyta
Soupfly

Possibly some of the little ones that didn't get off the ground, but a one-footed analysis won't likely spot those properly. Mariyta's wagon was tied to Ibaesha's, though.

Mariyta's wagon jumped up darned quickly, with Fritz, IH and JDodge all voting in quick succession. Fritz's cited reason was how dare Mariyta accuse ibby of being perpetual perpetrator of perfidies! IH agreed, and JDodge said only "discuss". Odds-on that one of these three is scum, JDodge for preference. Ibaesha's only response herself to being voted was to vote Kilroy; I see a couple of possibilities for why she voted him, but I don't know that either of them makes Kilroy scum. At this point the people voting those on the Mariyta wagon were Albert, Battle Mage, and Flameaxe. (To bring it full circle, Kilroy had tried to get a bandwagon going on Flameaxe.) Battle Mage then shifted to ibaesha, and MOS declared, "Now this is a wagon I can get behind," and voted Mariyta. On another string of virtually successive posts, Flameaxe, Albert, Aegor and Kinetic all voted Mariyta. Very probably one of these guys is scum, but Kilroy is voting the wrong one, IMO; Flameaxe noted the quick pileup, as well he should have.

The bit featuring MissMoo was pretty weird.

Thus endeth the Mariyta wagon.

Soupfly:

page five and the game hasn't even started yet. pity the fool who replaces into this game and has to wade through pages of BM taunting to get a glimpse of some content.

i would think that spamming is not a bad scum tactic

Well, yeah, if you consider a bandwagon two-thirds of the way there "no content," the game's got nothing. But an unadorned comment about the theoretical value of spamming as scum is hard to cast as, well, anything other than more spam.

IH responded to the above comment with a soupvote, and Yagami countered that wanting to get past the spam phase is not scummy and therefore voted IH for voting. Soupfly joined Yagami (unsuccessfully, as he neglected to unvote), and K-scope joined IH because "I disagree with [soupfly]." Ibaesha voted K-scope for sneaky spamming, which I don't get at all as more of K-scope's posts are contentful than not, and MOS followed "the royalty that is Ibby".

Kinetic: You want to lynch someone for wanting to lynch BM? Are you BM's scum buddy?
Yagami: He wanted to lynch soupfly not BM, and he wanted to lynch him for wanting to get the game out of random, so yes.

What?!?!

Kilroy jumped on the Scopewagon, which Kinetic thought painfully ironic, and soupfly pulled off a successful vote change to Kaleidoscope. Battle Mage and Albert joined the new bandwagon -- them again? -- Flameaxe noted the bandwagon shift, and then spamz0rz.

There seems to be some motion for an item claim. MOS in particular:

Although if the scum kill someone, we can try and pick up the items before the scum get them, since we already know what that person had.

Maybe this is my ignorance of exactly was was posted at the very start of the day, but since we wouldn't know who died until the mod posts it, wouldn't the items the dead person dropped be made public knowledge at the same time they became available? Thus, no head start. Scum, on the other hand,

would

have an edge, since they know who they targeted before it becomes public knowledge.

Vote: Aegor

because his only post was scummy bandwagon-following.

[Mastermind of Sin]

Indeed they would know who is dying, but they don't have the opportunity to pick up the items before we do, as far as I'm aware. In addition, we'll know exactly what items the scum are looking for based on which items disappear and aren't publicly claimed. Even if you don't need an item, you should try to grab items from the dead person to keep the scum from getting them. Just make sure you leave one space free to grab an item you actually need in case it appears. Otherwise, grab as much as you can. If we are completely public with who has what items, we'll know exactly who grabs what items from the dead people. If someone suddenly becomes a mayor after someone dies, we'll know they are probably scum. The scum has two choices:

a) claim all their items and try to pretend like they are protown people who were trying to beat the scum to the items
b) don't claim to have picked up the items, in which case I have a trap that will pwn them, but I shouldn't reveal it now

The scum will have a hard time making progress with the items and killing the people who have items they want without giving themselves away.

[ShadowLurker]

hi
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i think im backup modding this game

[IH]

I dislike Kinetic marginally less

[soupfly]

Holy wagonshifts batman!

don't panic. your buddy K-Scope is still 8 from a lynch.

Sorry. I don't like that statement. It set off all sorts of alarm bells.

Unvote, Vote: BM

Also, what's the point of sharing what items we have? We don't know what any of the items do.

I know there are some people that receive bonuses from certain items, but I can only see that helping scum because they can see who has what and then kill whomever they need to to pick up a certain item. I don't see it helping town at all.

if we claim it limits the ability of scum to pass items to each other at night. now is the time to do it before they can organize themselves to combat it.

there is no downside to the town.

[Blight]

if we claim it limits the ability of scum to pass items to each other at night.

I actually forgot that items could be traded. I could see how claiming what items we have could limit that. Alright. If everyone else is in favour of this I'm game too.

[YagamiLight]

I'm in favor of it.

[Battle Mage]

We should wait to see if there is any more dissent.

i guess i'd better be the one to speak up. I have to admit, although most of what he says is total BS, Jdodge is right on this. Really we should have the scummiest players claiming first, and realistically, that should be those with largest BW's. As such, that means Scope and Mariyta should be going first.

Blight, if you could elaborate on what about my post gave you a bad vibe, that'd be good. Just do me a favour and dont suggest that it was WIFOM, because as surprising as it may sound in a game that has so far been taken so seriously by all, i was actually kidding. lol

[YagamiLight]

I think the people who were against it should item claim after the scummiest.

[ibaesha]

Ibaesha voted K-scope for sneaky spamming, which I don't get at all as more of K-scope's posts are contentful than not,...

Really? Tell me which posts of Kscope's before my vote was contentful. I must have missed them.

I can't really see a problem with item claiming. I haven't heard any valid arguments against it to chew on either.