Blitz 8: U-Pick Villians - game over

[Gorkington]

Please tell me more about how something titled "Backup PR" isn't the same as a universal backup

Please teach me to be good at this game

this is so fucking awful i hope youre scum.

[Gorkington]

Show me an instance where a town-backup could chose what role he picked up.

you were in a game where that role was a thing.
lol.

[Gorkington]

and farside was as well.
lol.
lolllll.

like.
how fucking ridiculous is it that youre willing to stretch the definition of motivator to fit the actions that have occurred, but at the same time youre screaming and shouting about how BACKUPS ARE SACRED.
THEY COULD NOT POSSIBLY BE MODIFIED IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM AT ALL EVER.

fucking load of shit.

p-edit: disney mafia.

[Gorkington]

why is bloodking not whatever the hell ranger flipped?
she was the first technical flip.

[Gorkington]

im tired.

[Gorkington]

Just going to point out that in less than an hour their read on me goes from "innocent child levels of town" to "aronis is the last scum"

enjoying the show?

[Gorkington]

you think pere is scum still?
really?
:/

[Gorkington]

lol.

[Gorkington]

sure. you think his play has been towb?

youre refusing to change your mind so why should i even try to interact with you on anything?

[Gorkington]

what

[Gorkington]

so you dont but wont shoot yourself in the foot. get lynched in lylo

what

[Gorkington]

supersaint. vengeful. lylo. you. dead.

so.
my original plan then? lol.

[Gorkington]

mala.
why the fuck.
were you giving me shit.
about not having experience with your towngame.

go.
talk at me.
because i can bring that up now.

[Gorkington]

your reason had better be amazing, because it took you guiltying someone for me to want to ignore that.

[Gorkington]

you were pushing me as scum.
for not knowing your towngame.

[Gorkington]

theres a difference between directly acknowledging the game and you actually directly knowing that i know your towngame.
the act of you PUSHING me for that.
is scummy as fuck.

[Gorkington]

and you called me scum for not having any experience with your towngame, which you knew i did.
you took advantage of the ongoing rule to try and frame my push on you as bad.
thats pretty fucking awful.

[Gorkington]

"hi guys im scumpere and im gonna unnecessarily throw doubt on my own claim by saying i targeted pisskop when hes a pgo and im not dead."
yeah nah.

[Gorkington]

also hi everyone.
im really hungry tonight.

[Gorkington]

jealous.
would be more jealous if youd eaten something more decadent though.

[Gorkington]

why are you voting for pisskop aronis.

[Gorkington]

i'll feel like a jerk if aronis is scum.
because the main reason i dont want to sheep 1686 is because its rogue saying it.

[Gorkington]

uscum aronis?

[Gorkington]

Who was interrogated last night.
Be conftown now please.

[Gorkington]

Except it was confirmed that piggy could talk to people he jailed.

[Gorkington]

I'm not voting for Rogue, Peregrine or Xtoxm. Pretty sure pisskop is town. Would lynch Hippy over Aronis at this point. I think we win because of my supersaint in LyLo.

[Gorkington]

We effectively have 4 lynches left. Lol.

[Gorkington]

VOTE: Hippy Love
I am now voting for obvtown.

[Gorkington]

I should start collecting statistics on how often scum says that theyre obvtown.

[Gorkington]

What has he claimed that makes no sense.

[Gorkington]

i was jailed so im cleared of being maf..

I did the jailing.

Stop.
You're not lynching xtoxm.

[Gorkington]

Pignash neighbored the people he jailed.
This is confirmed.
Stop.
You're not lynching xtoxm.

[Gorkington]

Peregrine is a tracker. Mafia had a ninja. No thanks either.

[Gorkington]

Why? More importantly why am I even bothering asking. You're just gonna say gut. -.-

[Gorkington]

That's why you voted two people before him.
Lol.

[Gorkington]

Right.

[Gorkington]

Don't think I've caught you.
Just think you're acting pretty ridiculous at a time when we essentially have four free lynches and only one scum left.

[Gorkington]

Like "WOW I NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHO SCUM IS RIGHT NOW IT MUST BE THIS PERSON"
and then being shut down three times.
The frantic need to find scum just doesn't seem real.

[Gorkington]

Lol.

[Gorkington]

"DONT RUSH TO CONCLUSIONS, UNLESS ITS WITH SOMEONE ELSE, IN WHICH CASE THEY ARE OBVIOUSLY SCUM AND I SHOULDN'T PUT ANY EFFORT INTO IT"
If you're actually really so 100% convinced that its obviously aronis then what are you afraid of?

P-Edit: Right.
Okay so can we hammer hippy now?
Since they're pretty much scumclaiming.

Like, it's obviously possible I'm scum, but what the fuck would it matter if so?
I'm not gonna be able to fight being lynched in LyLo if we get to it. Lol.

[Gorkington]

You're good enough to know that it doesn't matter whether I'm scum or not.
So you flailing like this is just dumb.
And I hope it's because you're scum.

[Gorkington]

I thought I was scum?
What does it matter what I logically think or not?

[Gorkington]

its painfully obviously aronis

hippy was saying we are painfully obvstown so why are you trying to deliberately misinterpret him?

Wow I see it!
Definitely!

if you don't think we are scum then engage us in a game-solving way. plz.

I'm like 60% sure it's you.
And the rest of me just doesn't care because we literally have four lynches and seven people left and 3 of them beyond me are relatively confirmed to me.
I like those odds enough to wager on you guys being flailing scum being uncomfortable with how hopeless this situation is.

[Gorkington]

Also if Aronis doesn't use his ability tonight then we lynch him tomorrow.
No questions asked.
And if he flips town he's a dumby for playing against his wincon.
And then we lynch me and take someone with me.

Fucking easy.

[Gorkington]

Okay! I already am actually!

[Gorkington]

Well rogue was most likely roleblocked assuming they didn't just gambit hard and pignash didn't submit an action.
Pisskop is the only explained reason for Firebringer being dead.
And Pere is a tracker.

All are likely town as a result.

Aronis is going to die if he doesn't die tonight.

I'm going to die before LyLo.

Xtoxm is confirmed town.

What's to be worried about at this point?

[Gorkington]

Actually, one sec.

unvote

Pere, who did you target last night?

P-Edit: Lol? That would mean GG? Because the third person would vote me and would flip scum???

[Gorkington]

I'm probably going to vote you again.
Lol.

I just want to know whether Pere should go in my resort pile or not.

[Gorkington]

Lol.
Should make a new nomination for "Most Obviously Town" I'll nominate you for sure.
For all of the really really obviously town things you've done this whole game.
Which you haven't articulated at all.
Man.
Just can't believe how.
Ridiculously.
Obviously.
Protown and town you are.
Wow.
Mind blown.

[Gorkington]

Woah wow holy man wow moly man jehova.

[Gorkington]

Like who are we supposed to vote over you?
Aronis?
Who we can be 100% sure of come D5 if this game isn't over?
Man you're selling another lynch just so damn well! Wow!

[Gorkington]

Yeah I'm gonna keep being a dick at you if you keep up this rhetoric.
For the record.

[Gorkington]

1. Pisskop's extra kill would mean that scum got an extra kill this game and they chose to use it on firebringer on N1 which I would find hard to believe.
2. Like?

[Gorkington]

Tell me one mechanic that would make a lightning rod not work with only one scum left.
I'm all ears.

[Gorkington]

Sorry, forgot.
You're still being a jackass right now.

[Gorkington]

And if Pere doesn't clear you I'm going to vote you equally because I'm sick of the way you've approached dealing with people all fucking game.

[Gorkington]

Can we lynch me?
Can I not have to deal with this for another second?

[Gorkington]

I'm so fucking sick of mafia man.
Fuck.
This game fucking sucks.
I hate the way people play it.

[Gorkington]

Rogue almost certainly got jailed last night.
Lmfao.

I'm so tired.

[Gorkington]

And YOU'RE not addressing the fact that all three of them individually have reasons for being town.

[Gorkington]

Literally so fucking tired.

[Gorkington]

Be back after Pere claims.
I'm fucking done for now.

[Gorkington]

Lol.
I hope you're actually scum pisskop.
I really do.
Even if I don't really think it's possible mechanically.
You're just playing so fucking bad this game.

[Gorkington]

I don't hide my dickish behavior behind an alt.
I played as an alt because I didn't like the pressure of having to play amazing in every game I was in.
I've been as much of a dick on my main as I have been in any game as Gorkington.
But hey, I mean, you can call people VIs, insult people's intelligence and generally be a negative and toxic player and try to hold the moral ground if you want.

[Gorkington]

Ika literally replaced out because of a screamfest you had with him.
You've been screaming at Rogue all fucking game.
You've been calling Xtoxm and I morons for this entire day cycle.
You can act like you're such a victim but when half the playerlist thinks you're being a piece of shit maybe you should take a step back.
I'm a piece of shit. I would never hide that.
But you're being a real fucking piece of work right now in this game.

[Gorkington]

this is a sad day

Whatever mollie.
Blacklist me or something.
It doesn't really matter, I'm pretty fucking done with the way people like you play mafia and I'd rather just not play at all in general vs dealing with people who are toxic as hell just because they can't handle being pushed.

[Gorkington]

I would have made that same push on you in pretty much the same way if I was playing as Cheetory6 and I was town.
Except with capitals at the beginnings of sentences and properly used contractions.

[Gorkington]

I screw around more on this account.
That's literally the only difference.
The main consistency?
I play to win when I care.
I thought you were scum.
I pushed you and what I thought was you lying as scum.
Call me despicable for it. I honestly don't care.
I'm a prick who likes winning at these games.
Probably insensitive to think that someone's replace out was scummy.
Doesn't mean I didn't think it.

But whatevs.
Honestly.
I'm just about ready to check out.

[Gorkington]

vote: Peregrine

Why did you get results for N2 on N2?

[Gorkington]

I think we just won.
I think Pere slipped.

[Gorkington]

Not really sure why there's a ninja in the game unless last mafia is like an informed goon.

[Gorkington]

Are we just ignoring Peregrine slipping or no?

[Gorkington]

Why.
Did.
You.
Get.
Results.
N2.
If.
You're.
Delayed.
Do tell.

[Gorkington]

Honestly it isn't worth fighting anymore.
Pere's claim is either going to sort out or it's game over.

[Gorkington]

Pere is online. I don't know why he can't answer a simple question.

[Gorkington]

You said your results from N2 on D3 therefore you're not delayed.

[Gorkington]

You would have new results today if you weren't lying.

[Gorkington]

Okay. Pere is a delayed tracker. N1 he targets pisskop. He gets results N2. N2 he targets Blood. He should get results N3 by his own claim but during D3 he had the results to give, did he not?

[Gorkington]

Also

unvote

Because I actually want to figure this shit out.

[Gorkington]

Okay. Pere is a delayed tracker. N1 he targets pisskop. He gets results N2. N2 he targets Blood. He should get results N3 by his own claim but during D3 he had the results to give, did he not?

Why does this not make you scum?

[Gorkington]

Rogue are you serious? How is Pere not confirmed scum? There's no way he would know that Blood had targeted you on N2 during D3.

[Gorkington]

How are you still ignoring me

[Gorkington]

Pere. Last chance. Why did you have results for Blood on D3.

[Gorkington]

Pere. Why did you have the RESULT
on Blood
If you're delayed.
Stop dancing around it.

[Gorkington]

Did Pere not claim that Blood targeted Rogue at some point during D3?

[Gorkington]

I'm honestly less sure about Pere being scum. :/ There's no reason for him to change his result on Bloodking from one day to the next if he was lying.
Can we unvote and talk this out a little longer?

[Gorkington]

Quote where he said that result specifically?

[Gorkington]

Was fun being your friend for like two games Mollie but I'm over it. Mostly because of how you've been acting lately. Thanks for contributing to me wanting to stop playing!

[Gorkington]

I figured the implication was that your role was a load of shit. Not as sure if you didn't actually claim the results you're claiming now during D3.

[Gorkington]

Pisskop. Did he or did he not actually literally claim the results on D3? Because if he didn't then it's pretty plausible that he didn't get the action PM and then assumed that meant that Blood had went no where. No?

[Gorkington]

Nah it's okay! I'm embracing being a piece of shit because apparently that's what I am!

[Gorkington]

I feel like you are just fucking with us right now

I would prefer not to be wrong. If the game can be over now rather than in two day cycles that'd be great!

[Gorkington]

Him being a delayed tracker would explain why Firebringer died over him on N1.

[Gorkington]

Obviously I don't feel like that right now!

[Gorkington]

You're sure about that?

@farside, if a role was "delayed" in this game, would it count as targeting the player on the night that the target was chosen or when the action was actually carried out?

[Gorkington]

But he never actually had the results q.q unless someone points to a D3 post where Peregrine says "Blood targeted Rogue on N2" then I'm not into quicklynching him.

[Gorkington]

If Pere is town. Do you forever concede to my logical prowess?

[Gorkington]

What if Pere is just bad town? Why does scum Pere change his tune on what his results were?

[Gorkington]

If Pere is town then we get results tonight.
If Pere is scum then he narrows the lynchpool for us.
I don't see any reason to lynch him today.
Especially now that it's clear he didn't outright slip.

[Gorkington]

I'm not kidding you and I'm not being oppositional just cos.

[Gorkington]

If Pere is scum he's stuck in a corner where he has to give results that clear someone D5 or he's dead. If he's town then he clears someone. This shouldn't be rocket science.

[Gorkington]

And if that happens then we lynch him? Especially if he targets someone who we all knew was town that he had no reason to target with his track?

[Gorkington]

What?

[Gorkington]

Now I'm curious, who should I have tracked last night?

If you tracked me.
Or Xtoxm.

Then I would advocate for lynching you.

[Gorkington]

Okay lets play a game.
It's called:
Pere doesn't flip scum.
vs
Pere does flip scum.

If Pere doesn't flip scum.
Then we've exhausted a resource available to us.
And thus make it harder for us to win this game.

If Pere does flip scum, then the game is over.
But what is the difference between doing that flip now vs later?
Especially when we have at least one lynch to spare?

Clearly the risk is pointlessly higher in situation A.
I don't give a shit if Pere is obvscum or some horseshit.
There's no reason to take the risk of him not flipping scum.

[Gorkington]

And to be perfectly honest both of the people hardpushing this lynch are very very not cleared at this point.
Which is cause for concern.

[Gorkington]

And all I hear is you choosing a non-optimal strategy for no reason.

[Gorkington]

I'm not against lynching Aronis at this point.

[Gorkington]

Honestly surprised.
I don't think we deserved to sweep.
Lol.

P-Edit: I'm a piece of shit.
Don't worry. I'm quitting once I'm done all the games I'm in.

[Gorkington]

I was pretty mean to House/Radiant in Wake's game.
:/

[Gorkington]

Thanks though Silver. Means a lot that you'd say that about me.