Mini 413 - Famous CATS - Over! Quit pussyfooting around!

[Glork]

EDIT: Actually, Primate's argument for Massive handing out gifts makes sense. Perhaps you should run up DGB after Theo, and if that fails, then look at Skruffs.

[Nai]

I'm assuming Glork knew that Theo could daykill (assuming Theo's attempt is legit). I can only wonder why Glork didn't tell us this before so we could lynch him quickly.

I also find it VERY interesting about the people who didn't make the move to finally LYNCH the jerk. People who, perhaps, knew that Theo was scum, had the ability, and wanted to give him time to use it?

[Skruffs]

I have no reason to think Theo had a day kill. It was discussed that we should talk things through before we lynchde him, since we have a claimed scum.

Glork is reading me completely wrong, and misconstruing things. I do not like it at all. He's probably town, yes - even has an investigation on him - but he's still wrong about a few points.

"The way he tried to talk me out of making Zindaras the middle of the protection chain is extremely suspect,"
"have been his attempts to deflect time, attention, votes, and just about everything from Theo. "
Show me where I did this? you are not the first person to say I am tryign to keep Theo from being lynched - if I'm not mistaken, Nai was the first person.
Theo is a done deal - Have I insinuated, at any time, that anyone other than him should be lynched? No. And I kinda am getting irritated that everyone is using me as their punching boy. I got a doctor role, but so did Carbon copy, so, obviously, only Carbon Copy is telling the truth.
I got a innocent on me, so , obviously, I must be a godfather.
And I have a role that does things, that I'm not aware of - as does DGB, but only DGB's is feasible.


It really pisses me off.

And Glork - you can just go bite a rock. If you are about to be daykilled, then I am going to protect IH tonight. Otherwise you are settnig Carbon copy up for a misprotection. I see no reason to protect a claimed doctor that thinks I am scum, over a claimed role-cop who, if nothing else, may repay me by investigatnig me and seeing that I am, in fact, Data's Cat. Unless, of course, you think I'm a Godfather not only to regular investigations but to role investigations, too. Oh wait, *I* am tryign to direct power roles!!! EVIL ME!!! You just doing it, that's okay, because... well, you're Glork, I guess. Whatever.

[Skruffs]

I'm going to protect IH and 'thingie' DGB tonight. Carbon Copy can do whatever he wants. He has been saying I'm scum all game, but balked when I called his bluff, so I am unimpressed with his character. I'll do what I think is best for town, and I reserve the right to rub it in your faces when I die and come up town.

[Skruffs]

Also Note: THeo tried to do the daykill thing right after DGB voted me and before the vote count could be posted. Protection?

[Glork]

NO. PROTECT CARBON COPY TONIGHT. PERIOD. END OF STORY.

[Glork]

And Nai, I didn't know if Theo would daykill. I just posted all relevant thoughts that came to my head as soon as I read the post. The reason it probably seems well thought-out is because I have a very clear picture of this game, even if I haven't been posting much lately. If I really have been daykilled, it can only help to get my thoughts on the table.

[Glork]

Seriously, if CarbonCopy dies,

LYNCH SKRUFFS REGARDLESS OF WHAT HE SAYS HE IS OR WHAT HE SAYS HE DID

.

The arguments for CarbonCopy being town (especially the fact that Zindaras is town) are too great. Skruffs wants to do anything but protect a claimed Doctor, when that is the

OBVIOUS

play to make. Why? He likely needs to eliminate the protection role to ensure that he can kill on future nights, in the unlikely event that he *does* die.

There's something up with Miztef/IH's role, that's for sure. Aside from the missed night due to Miztef's disappearance, there must be some reason that he has only made one investigation so far. Whether IH knows that reason or not, I haven't the faintest idea. But there is no guarantee that IH will make a successful investigation.


I would suggest that CarbonCopy use some kind of weighted randomization for the three likely-town roles (IH, Nai, Primate), much as I stated I would do in Scrubs Mafia. It gives better odds of protecting the more confirmed and/or powerful roles, but still adds an element of uncertainty. It is absolutely the right play to make.

If CC rejects this idea, I would propose the following:
Skruffs protect CC
CC protect IH
IH investigate as he sees fit.


The fact is, though, that CC is practically confirmed as an innocent, and he has claimed to be a Doc. Skruffs, you have to accept this fact, even if CC suspects you. If you are town and you protect CC, then the mafia has no good kill to make.
If they kill you, they are offing one of the top two remaining suspects.
If they kill elsewhere, there is a significant chance that their kill will fail.
If they try to kill Zindaras, they will fail. Period.

And regardless of what happens, Zindaras

will

be able to protect the following night. Even if he doesn't think you are town, Skruffs, that's insignificant. If he survives, you guys probably lynch DGB tomorrow. If he dies, you are a dead man. Capiche?

[Skruffs]

So me saying
"Hey glork, just take my word that I haven't lied about anything", probably doesn't mean anything to you, does it.

I am not "capiche" with you, Glork. You are being belligerent.
If you are actually being daykilled, then If Carbon Copy promises to protect IH, I will protect Carbon Copy. This means scum has to kill me, DGB, or Primate. Whoever the last scum is, Primate is really the only normal choice, so IH targets DGB. The next day we have me, carbon, nai, dgb, and ih. If IH is fake claiming, (because he'll have to have a guilty on DGB to have any chance), we find out after we mislynch her, and he kills me, and he is lynched by nai and carbon the last day. If he gets an innocent on DGB, then Nai has to be lynched, with the same consequences.

Of course, if you are not actually being dayklilled, something else entirely shoudl be done, but I still think IH should not be allowed to weaslel out of coming up with a real investigation, if he is fake claiming.

[Glork]

Could I have a summary of nameclaims? I seem to be unable to find several of them.

[bertrand]

Very Suspenseful Vote count:

theopor_COD (2, -3): Nai, Glork
DrippingGoofball: (1, -4): theopor_COD
Skruffs (1, -4): DrippingGoofball

If you think something's wrong, as usual, it probably is.

[theopor_COD]

Sweet.

So Glork lives on and both he and Nai have double votes. Talk about screwing with us.

[Glork]

Bahahahaha.

Ownd, Theo.

[Glork]

Also, I'm okay with the "Skruffs protect CC, CC protect IH" plan

as long as IH can guarantee meaningful results tomorrow

.

[DrippingGoofball]

Z'yay!

I am honored and humbled to be given this opportunity to hammer some scum. I will be eternally grateful for the privilege.

unvote, vote: Theo

Die scum die AT LAST!!!

[Skruffs]

Glork - Fred the Undercover Kitty
Primate - "Little Nicky"
Nai - Lewis the Cat, a feline from Connecticut
Skruffs - Data's Cat from Star Trek, Next Generations.
DGB - Tuffy the Sleeping Stunt Cat
Theo -

scum

Simon, the ship's cat from HMS Amethyst during the 1950s
IH - Socks, Bill Clinton's Cat.
Carbon Copy - The first clone of Rainbow, the first cloned cat.

[theopor_COD]

Bahahahaha.

Ownd, Theo.

[theopor_COD]

My role claim crap doesn't half suck.

DGB sweetie pie . . . seems your two votes to quick after all.

[Skruffs]

Waaait.
Why is Theo at 4, -3??
I mean, don't wait, lynch the sun of a bitch (After Carbon confirms)

Glork - you're not dying, so CC should protect you, right?

[DrippingGoofball]

Very Suspenseful Vote count:

theopor_COD (2, -3): Nai, Glork
DrippingGoofball: (1, -4): theopor_COD
Skruffs (1, -4): DrippingGoofball

If you think something's wrong, as usual, it probably is.

Z'I am cruelly disapointed.

[Nai]

Apparently the mod screwed up.

Can we PLEASE kill him now?

[Glork]

Actually, yeah, I would like CC to confirm that he'll protect me (if I survive the day) or IH (if I don't).

In retrospect, Theo's "Kill" makes me , considering I just fake-daykilled somebody in a game recently.

Also,

Modprod: IH

, please.

[Carbon Copy]

And Glork - you can just go bite a rock. If you are about to be daykilled, then I am going to protect IH tonight. Otherwise you are settnig Carbon copy up for a misprotection. I see no reason to protect a claimed doctor that thinks I am scum, over a claimed role-cop who, if nothing else, may repay me by investigatnig me and seeing that I am, in fact, Data's Cat. Unless, of course, you think I'm a Godfather not only to regular investigations but to role investigations, too. Oh wait, *I* am tryign to direct power roles!!! EVIL ME!!! You just doing it, that's okay, because... well, you're Glork, I guess. Whatever.

And you being Data's Cat clears you? Remember, Data's Cat was a

fictional

cat. Not an actual famous cat. The actual famous cat is the cat who

played

Data's Cat.

Data's Cat makes perfect sense as a godfather. It's an actual cat, rather than a comic cat, but it's still a fictional cat.

I'm going to protect IH and 'thingie' DGB tonight. Carbon Copy can do whatever he wants. He has been saying I'm scum all game, but balked when I called his bluff, so I am unimpressed with his character. I'll do what I think is best for town, and I reserve the right to rub it in your faces when I die and come up town.

Called my bluff? You made a completely

irrelevant

request which, quite frankly, I wouldn't accept if it was Theo asking me to do it. This crap has nothing to do with this game. Calling my bluff is making me vote you.

If I asked you to post pictures of yourself streaking at a baseball game if you were wrong about me, would you do it?

No?

I CALL YOUR BLUFF BEETCH!!11!!shiftoneone

[Primate]

If I say I'm ready to hammer theo, does anyone have any objections, or will people just yell at me as to why I didn't do it two pages ago?

[Skruffs]

carbon copy
THREE DIMENSIONAL vs TWO DIMENSIONAL
WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS

I didn't ask you to do something outright, I said, "Are you so sure you are scum that you will do something for me if I am not " You said "MAybe" I said what it is - a harmless prank, and one I have previously done for you, myself, in another game, and you said "Ummm, no".....


Glork - what do you think of CC's refusal to acknowledge your asking for chain of protection?