Mini 413 - Famous CATS - Over! Quit pussyfooting around!

[IH]

I'm not seeing as much to post about, since alot of these interactions are with players that are already dead. Like Dead interacting with the dead, which are looking useless.

Glork's points sound... well... sound, especially unarmed with information.

I would look at Zindy's alt again if Ubertimmy comes up scum I think, especially with CC still alive.... why wouldn't you kill a confirmed player?(see below)

Sorry, I have the SATs this weekend. been kinda busy.

I believe Zindaras's flavor too much to think he's scum... but what are you proposing glork? He has a scum side and a town side? I'm just a little overwhelmed, if you could summarize your accusations on him it'd really help me decide on that issue.

It's very.... trusting.

I've been left a special pussy treat by some kind feline . . .

Oh and for now FOS Dripping Goofball far too many questions, mind I'm eager to test Primate's claim aswell, for if he's lying we're up shit creek without a paddle so Vote Primate.

Theo you hardly posted day one, and you fos someone for asking to many questions?

FoS

It should be noted Theo was criticizing people for not posting much day 1 when he did the same thing (Somewhere around the bottom of page 10)

Yep, I'm obviously scum, because I wasn't on the lynch of a townie and I have perfectly valid reasons for it. Good Job, theopor, you're the best player ever.

And I warn you, if theopor has a doublevote, I am very, very, very close to being lynched. so please, unvote.

I'm unsure this is valid....

Uh, yeah, Brain, but how are we going to get wetsuits in our size?

Glork wins this thread.

post 269 is a bit of a turn around from Glork. Why?

Actually, I have some other things I want people to weigh in on:

-What do you think of the discussion Primate and I had about Phoebus's role? Do you think he was an SK or a Survivor? (please read the argument first)
-What do you think of Goofy's claim?

A lyncher

Infact Unvote WizardCat, Vote DGB, Vote DGB

Surely if you break a restriction like the Z's one then it's false?

horrible logic. What do you expect, the mod to modkill her just like that? Rebuke her in thread?I'm not saying it's a point in her favor, I'm saying it's a point that you are scum.

Normally I would say that a supposed restricted post role who breaks their restriction is modkilled or faking it - unfortunately I have seen other games where the mod was too lenient in this respect, leading into the lynching of a post-restricted townie who made several mistakes in his post restriction. I would not put too much on the continued presence of DGB in this game in that sense.

QFT. I would say it was a loss of power or a warning. See post restriction three, where I was lynched, purely because I broke my restriction two times, thereby losing my power, and lynching me at the same time. (which was crap)

I'm unsure of DP's vote on Wizardcat..... (Post 304)

I'm feeling that the cats in this game (the real ones, at least) have some sort of historic importance/can be found in history, therefore, I believe that the claim is false

I disagree with my predecessors assessment.

Zi give out inventions I dream up. I don't know what they do, beyond granting abilities, but they're so important I have to have 2 backup targets, in case my first choice can't receive it.

Zindies alt got this night 0
I continue to think my Primate SK theory is becoming more plausible

Primate said that he has two lives - and that for some reason this makes Zindaras' two players very scummy. GLork pushed hard for a zindaras lynch, sayign that if he turns up town, he would be trying very hard in the morrow to not let Primate get away with it.
Now that I know Glork didn't target Primate last night, he has no more reason now to think primate is town than he did yesterday, and yet he has basically demurred on this.
Bait and Switch, and I don't like it.
Vote : Glork
woo

Slight FoS:Skruffs

I see Glork's claim
I see Skruffs misreading something obvious.... (<3 Skruffs)

FoS:DGB

for post 450 I think....

MAJOR FoS:DGB for post 456

Glork Clearly stated he could tell alignments, not lies. So if he got answers from town they were true. If he got answers from scum, he would have a VERY educated guess.
GLork have you considered, that in a bout of bastard mafia, the alignment you get is dependent on their answers? I'm unsure if this is valid or not.

I believe you were reasonably certain that either Zindaras or Primate were scum, and you pushed for a primate. Now you are reasonably sure that me or Primate is scum, and you are not going after primate, again.

Err no, he chose Zindie, as Zindie was lynched.

I am not suggesting that we lynch primate twice. Personally, if he's scum, and was lying counterclaiming, than once would be enough. If he's town, than he wasn't lying, and once would clear him.

BUT
there are bigger more likely scumfish to fry.
Imma gonna be lurky-slackin' the next ten days or so.. but i iwll post at least every other day.

Major:FoS Skruffs

A slight scumchat meta. I see Skruffs do this alot of the time as scum. You see he leaves out the possibility of Primate being scum with this ability.
In my last scumchat game with Skruffs, we took the town in very nicely, and if it wasn't for my screwup, woulda owned them. It involved Skruffs claiming KIT, a cop, and a vig, and something similar in this natu

[quote="Glork]I'm reasonably sure that I've seen a double-life godfather in another game, though my memory fails me right now... I'll have to check that.
[/quote]
You forget how badly your last precedent failed.
I withdraw my comments about Primate, because I figured for some reason he was talking about that damn Adam Sandler movie.
>.<;
DGB seems to be content to try and disprove every role claim.
Primates role would be incredibly broken as scum. I would believe he was town (You'd have to lynch him three times)

who replaced ubertimmy?

Number one is that we know that there are no vanilla townies in this game. I also don't think that a vampiric role of that nature, in the hands of scum, would take the players vote.

But Thesp was a mason.
If he wasn't allowed to talk to me, then he'd get his vote.
Or else perhaps he's a vote stealer, but he kills.
This game is high in theoreticalness
Nai's intro makes sense.
I am confident DGB is scum. If she is an inventor, perhaps Felix.
there were WAY to many DGB and Pooky posts on page 26
That Pooky explosion after no posting at all would have made me vote him.
I kind of want to think Nai is protown.
I'm unsure of Skruffs, as everyone else has been a real famous cat, and not a fictional famous cat.... I feel it could be a fake claim.
Page 31
Now I'll have to REREAD my read so I won't have to go back, and can just start on page 31

Apologies for anything that has confused things about claims, as this was made like in the first or second day I replaced in

[IH]

Oh. Em. Gee, half of that read is gone.... (stuff from day one and such)

SEARCHING.

[IH]

................

(sigh)

[Skruffs]

I'm pretty sure I would have claimed a real cat if I was going to fake claim.
Data's cat's name was Spot.
Here's a poem Data wrote about him:

" Felis catus is your taxonomic nomenclature,
An endothermic quadruped, carnivorous by nature;
Your visual, olfactory, and auditory senses
Contribute to your hunting skills and natural defenses.

I find myself intrigued by your sub-vocal oscillations,
A singular development of cat communications
That obviates your basic hedonistic predilection
For a rhythmic stroking of your fur to demonstrate affection.

A tail is quite essential for your acrobatic talents,
You would not be so agile if you lacked its counterbalance.
And when not being utilized to aid in locomotion
It often serves to illustrate the state of your emotion.

Oh Spot, the complex levels of behavior you display
Connote a fairly well-developed cognitive array;
And though you are not sentient, Spot, and do not comprehend,
I nonetheless consider you a true and valued friend. "

Secondly, me and primate can't both be scum. So me possibly misinterpreting Primate's role as possibly being a double-liver and scum, is null and void.

Also, when was the last time me and you played in scumchat... June?

Oh well. IH, if you think I'm fake claiming my role, then inspect me. Reveal the truth in the morning. You'll probably be nightkilled tonight to make sure I don't get cleared (again), anyways.

[bertrand]

END OF DAY Vote count:

theopor_COD (5, -0): Nai, Glork, DrippingGoofball, Primate, Skruffs

DrippingGoofball: (1, -4): theopor_COD

Not voting: everyone else

The previous vote count has been corrected (again).

If you think something's wrong, as usual, it probably is.

Please get your choices in quickly.

[bertrand]

theopor_COD runs at the first sight, onto a plane to.. um.. wherever it is that he lives. He did leave behind glasses, which immedeately gave away his identity.

You have lynched theopod_COD. He was

Catbert, The evil Red Cat With Glasses

(evil).

It is now

Night 5

. Please submit your night choices as soon as possible.

[bertrand]

The following letter has been found.. it's a bit longer than most:

Are you scum? How come you get 3 questions you lying scumbag? Are you searching for unknown scumbuddies or something? A cult recruiter?

Did you attempt to target Glork tonight? I am sending gifts but no I didn't target Glork because I think he's the Godfather and if he's not, he's a target for the scum kill so why bother.

Did you attempt to target IH tonight? Why IH??? That's a weird question isn't it. I tried to send my gifts to the towniest players, like Nai, Primate and CC. Is IH scum with you???

Also, everyone who went to sleep is now awake! Woohoo! Except Nai is nowhere to be found. He was

Lewis the Prosecuted

.

If you think I have forgotten anything, I probably did.

IT IS NOW DAY 5.

[Nai]

Damnit. Well, I saw that coming. Good luck, town.

[Skruffs]

Well, I Got a 'result' of some sort, and I targetted IH with my mystery ability. Dunno what that means.

[Glork]

Okay, I got a guilty on DGB.

Vote: DGB

GG, folks.

[Primate]

A surprising nightkill.

Waiting for all to check (mostly IH) in before I do anything.

[Skruffs]

Wait, I want CC to apologize before we lynch DGB.

[Skruffs]

For the record, I did get an "IH is Good" result, originally it said "Skruffs is good", but then the mod corrected me. I was going to be angry if I only got resuilts on myself.

[IH]

Confirming something.

[DrippingGoofball]

Z'yeah, right. You all fell under a carefully laid out trap by the Godfather/Glork. He's totally dominated the game, bussing his buddies, unchallenged.

Hey Glork, care to tell us why you killed Nai???

[Carbon Copy]

Woops.

This is a somewhat disappointing end. But, meh,

Vote: DrippingGoofball

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[IH]

Skruffs is innocent, btw.

Vote:DGB

[Primate]

I'm torn between asking some questions to cover some of the things that could go wrong today, or just voting DGB, seeing as how I'm near certain she's scum. Meh.

@All 3 Cops/roles who get innocent guilty:- do you actually get innocent/guilty, or do you get mafia/non-mafia?

[Primate]

To clarify, I think it's odd we have a normal cop, a role that can frequently investigate, nearly two full rolecops and the scum don't even get a roleblocker or a Godfather. That confuses me.

[IH]

Well I'm still clarifying my investigation with the mod, BUT I aksed him about my action cause I got it late (this morning to be honest cause he forgot).

His reaction and response to it makes me think that it's probably candid, even if he did give me the wrong thing, and Skruffs is actually innocent.

pod I am unsure if I am capable of getting a guilty result, because if the player was guilty I may have just gotten part of their role, but it turns out the two investigations I've recieved innocent and such.

Still waiting to see if I get any of Skruff's role.

Also, don't forget that Nai was highly restricted, as if he had used his power, he would have automatically put himself at lynch -1.

[IH]

Skruffs is apparently some sort of shapeshifter who can't control it well.

[Glork]

I get Good/Evil.

[Primate]

A -1 to lynch number is acceptable, imho, for a full rolecop. I would have used it more often, especially when you can just knock yourself off during the night if it gets too bad.

I just dislike the fact it was entirely possible, night 1, for Skruffs, Nai, Glork, all to investigate different people, to create 3 confirmed innocents day 1. Add that to the fact I could confirm massive, and that's four on Day 1 alone, with an extra one-shot being able to appear. And I don't see how any remotely sensible mod can include that amount of investigating power without some way for the town to scum screw with it, even in a minor way. Ever since we got the whole double life thing out the way, though, it's just been 'follow the cop, dum day dum'. And there's the coincidence of Skruffs getting 3/4 cop investigations, and the bizarreness of the fact that Wizardcat lied about his claim.

In all honesty, I believe that the scum don't have the tricks I'm speculating about, and the setup was weighted against them, but it's still niggling.

[Glork]

Well, all I know is that I had an innocent on an innocent (Thesp) and two guilties on two guilties (Pooky, Theo).

Innocent on Skruffs and Guilty on DGB are my outstanding investigations. I'm going with my own result.

[Glork]

Also, there's still:

• DGB's completely unreasonable defense of Pooky;
  
• The inconsistency in her "What happens if I mess up my post restriction" claims;
  
• Her claimed rolename, which I maintain is not a "famous" cat by any means

Just end the game, Primate. -_-