Mini 485: Formula One (Game Over)

[Shanba]

Hi guys. Can we lynch Kscope? Kscope is a good lynch. Kscope is an awesome lynch. Kscope rocks, but he's so so so scum. So let's lynch him.

Hey. We're down to 6. Only scum dead is the SK. That's bad news. We're prob in lylo Means I can't vote Kscopescum in case he's town. No fair. But otherwise, I woul be voting him.

FoS: Kscopescum

[Shanba]

Guys guys guys, I just had a brilliant idea. Let's massclaim.

[Shanba]

Let's put it this way: we're almost certainly at lylo. As such, we need all the info on the table now in order to make the most informed lynch decision. A cop trying to keep his results back just one more day is not helpful if we don't have another day. Also, by claiming we possibly end up with situations where we can clear a player or damn a player. If a player was roleblocked a certain night and there was still a kill, for example, it's a good indication that that player is town. In lylo, there's no benefit to holding back such information any longer.

In order to maximise massclaim benefits, we oughta organise an order. I like popcorn style, as it gets people generally agreed to be suspicious claiming earlier but also doesn't focus solely on a single person's views.

[Shanba]

mm. Popcorn is the one Zindie called picking. Scumminess works too, though, I guess.

[Shanba]

picking

[Shanba]

Mm. Would prefer kscope, personally.

[Shanba]

That's everyone, as Kscope has indicated he doesn't care. Did you mean to vote for yourself?

[Shanba]

I'm giancarlo fisichella, cop. I got an innocent on DA night 1 and was blocked nights 2 and 3 (which seems odd, given SW's claim, as it implies two roleblockers).

[Shanba]

It also explains Xdaamno's bizarre comments end of yesterday.

[Shanba]

Why would Xdaamno say he's happy with a disco lynch over a no lynch then in post 367 if he knew he was innocent? Its an easy fake claim to make because Polter was defending Disco. I'm still not sure on this one though.

Godfather is a possibility. If you look at Xdaamno's wording, it's hard to imagin anyone saying that unless they believed the person to be innocent, especially given the timing. I mean, noone was likely to unvote DA at the time.

I'm growing more suspicious of Pulse with that scenario proposed by Zindaras. That would explain the one kill. Can power roles stil get off their night abilities if they're are killed at night? It can help decide if Para perhaps got off a protection on night 1 and why IH didn't get a nightkill on night 2. If they can't, then I can definitely see Pulsewidth as scum.

[Shanba]

No teammate

[Shanba]

We know who the dead guys' potential teammates were since this game is based on the real-world sport (something which you should definitely have noticed in a reread).

Jenson Button's teammate is Rubens Barrichello.
Takuma Sato's teammate is Anthony Davidson.
Alexander Wurz's teammate is Nico Rosberg.

If you look at Shanba's and Scope's claims, we can see the issue there. Shanba's teammate is Heiki Kovalainen and Scope's teammate is Ralf Schumacher.

Robert Kubica and Nick Heidfeld are teammates, yes, but here's one that's even more interesting: Lewis Hamilton is Fernando Alonso's teammate.

I think this is pretty interesting. Wario could be lying about being Fernando Alonso in the first place, which would mean that he doesn't know that IH was his teammate. But pulse could also be lying about being Nick Heidfeld. Since Paradox died before anyone even m entioned the word teammate, we have no way of knowing if he had one in his PM. If pulse figured that all pure townies had teammates, then this could be an indicator of pulsescum. I'm also not sure I think pulse's behaviour regarding Dissy when she claimed to have a teammate is indicative of someone who has a teammate himself.

I'm a little confused as to what your final conclusion is. Do you recon players who should have teammates but don't are scum, or players who got their teammates wrong are scum, or something else entirely? I think I understand the point about SirWario (claiming a drvier who was teammates with the SK correct?) and I agree that makes him look scummy. I think I also understand your point about pulse, but I see it as weaker. Also, I'm hesitant to base my vote in lylo on a flavour issue, when Sope still looks much scummier.

Oman, your vote is idiotic.

[Shanba]

:badvoting:

you realise we are in lylo? That means with Oman's vote on Zindie, one has to e mafia, or there would be a quicklynch. However, by adding another vote off those wagons you offer a different possibility for a quicklynch.

[Shanba]

Meh. They're equivalent.

[Shanba]

Meh. They're equivalent.

No, they're not. In small LyLo, what you said was true. If there are 5 players alive and two scum, and town votes town, scum can quicklynch. In big LyLo, it's not true. With 6 players alive and 2 scum, scum can't quicklynch when one townie ends up voting another townie.

...

we have 6 alive?
Right. /me needs to pay more attention.

[Shanba]

srsly, why is Scope not dead? Has anyone read his posts?

[Shanba]

I would say so. Otherwise the game wouldn't still be going.

Meh. Coming back to this, I just don't see another roleblocker in the game.

Vote: SirWario

[Shanba]

SW is almost certainly a roleblocker, or else he's scum who has a blocker buddy. Otherwise he would not know I was blocked n2.

[Shanba]

I can't believe we didn't even get at least one of the scum. Wow. Should've listened to Shanba and went after KScope, but I couldn't believe that the town would have two roleblockers, hence why I went after SW.

Heh. Ironically, that was pretty much my exact thought process also. Funny how if Zindie hadn't blocked me we'd have had a very good chance of winning.

There was a mod error night 2. Xdaamno received Roach's alignment despite being roleblocked by SirWario. Jdodge told me this, then I told Jdodge that that meant Roach was very likely innocent. I tried not to let this influence me: if roach had been under more scrutiny I would have asked for replacement.

A better argument against Zindie than his not dying would have been his somewhat lurky play. But meh. He wasn't on my radar.