Gistou (Over!)

[davesaz]

Who is scum?

I can't believe we found scum before the game even began...

Who did you find?

dat echo

Your question didn't have any effect, so...

[KuroiXHF]

I can't believe we found scum before the game even began...

Who did you find?

I can't believe - not as in "Oh boy, I can't believe I'm going to my first baseball game!" but more as in, I can't believe in a sincere way.

[No Retreat]

Why are you being vague here?

[KuroiXHF]

I'm not. I said what I meant, but he took it to mean the other definition of the phrase.

[No Retreat]

So basically you are saying that you don't think we've found any scum yet? Assuming yes

[KuroiXHF]

...yes

[mastin2]

<<< A quick note on wincons/factions: I thought I had made them all consistent, but it is possible there may be inconsistencies in your wincon/faction that I missed. (For instance, there may be inconsistencies between "if/when" that should not exist.) If you have any question, feel free to ask on a private channel. I will answer as soon as I get the opportunity. >>>

[Nosferatu]

74 quoted 72 in which Frozen showed some emotion.
273 talks about emotion.
Seems pretty straightforward to me. I don't understand why it's a big deal...
Even 263 still fits in, if nothing changed in "the feels" in those ~190 posts since 74.

Now whether that little bit is worth a town read, is a completely different matter. I certainly wouldn't call someone town that easily... but I'm not liking the Cane+Able approach of casting it as a retroactive explanation.

Fucking... you too?

My entire POINT was that I thought she should have USED 74 IN THE FIRST FUCKING PLACE, you illiterate clown.

I'm just wondering: you are aware that

you

are the person who fucked up here, right?

@Titus: why are you still pushing your view that he lied when he admitted his mistake all the way back in 397?

You guys are both so weird.

I don't like Titus's 444. It seems intentionally antagonistic when it's plain to see the mistake house made in 442, not even mentioning the main argument, which he resolved on his part ages ago and reiterated several times. Seems like she's trying to lean on him to make him crack.

[Wayward Thinker]

I'm at the bottom of page 8.

Trying to catch up. Did not expect this many posts.

~LQ

[MathBlade]

Jesus 20 pages while I am at work. Will catch up late tonight heading to a friend's place.

If there is something I need to see @MathBlade me. Will be checking that before I read up.

[Expedience]

RAM is kind of scum imo.

[Luna Fox]

@Titus: why are you still pushing your view that he lied when he admitted his mistake all the way back in 397?

Did you link the wrong post? This leads to a Titus post replying to Salt.

[Klingoncelt]

that's one of the weirdest reasons i've ever been townread but okay

Town post because the person is weirded out, and only people who are weirded out are town.

~Fire Song

FireSong is an actual user's name...

also

/Confirm

[Luna Fox]

Dunno reading the whole debate between Titus and Housedra is giving me a headache, cant make heads or tails of what's going on there and most of it is Titus talking about other games.

[Nosferatu]

@Titus: why are you still pushing your view that he lied when he admitted his mistake all the way back in 397?

Did you link the wrong post? This leads to a Titus post replying to Salt.

379, messed up the order of digits.

[Titus]

How is 379 admitting his mistake, particularly when he kept pushing on it?

[mastin2]

Public Service Announcement

:

Hey.

Hey.

You know these?

Game Mechanics

:

Welcome to Gistou! For those who didn't read the brochure, here's what you're in for!

The world is a dark place...

• The first thing you'll need to know is that every player has four game-relevant attributes:
  1. Closest location they hail from; there are
     five possibilities
     :
     1. The Great Lake
     2. Divitias
     3. Erimos Range
     4. Great Ridge
     5. Other
  2. Closest nation they hail from; there are
     four possibilities
     :
     1. Northern Tribes
     2. Western Empire
     3. Eastern Kingdom
     4. Other
  3. Race; there are
     seven
     of them:
     1. Humans
     2. Vampires
     3. Lycans
     4. Undead
     5. Wulden
     6. Nosferatu
     7. Other
  4. Faction
  Your faction is your wincon
  . They are not public information.
• There are no sample PMs. Any party who is in need of a fakeclaim has the mod-given ability for one.
• This is a multi-factional game.
  Please pay very close attention to your win condition. Some players who you may not think are allies will be fighting for the same thing you are, and some players who you may think are fighting for the same thing you are may not actually be allies. The ambiguity inherent is meant to reflect the moral ambiguity of Gistou.
• Loosely speaking,
  there is at least one town faction
  . They win if all threats to them are eliminated.
• Loosely speaking,
  at least one faction is definitely a scum/mafia faction
  . They win if they control 50% of the living.
• I offer a guarantee that, on D1, the players considered town outnumber the players considered scum.
• Factions, loosely speaking, have general trends, sharing race, location, and nation. These traits are not, however, universal.
• Upon the death of a player, all of their original personal abilities will be revealed, along with any changes to their personal abilities since then. Their original faction, and if applicable any change in faction, will also be revealed. However, no factional abilities will be flipped.
• This game will use my understanding of Natural Action Resolution (insert obligatory CFJ rant here)...with one major exception:
  recruits resolve

  before

  kills
  , not after.
• Please do note that, while this is a
  very
  flavor-heavy game, I designed it so that it cannot be broken by flavor-claiming.
• No player is entirely vanilla!
  This is because
  every player, unless otherwise specified
  , has a
  free action
  they may perform
  in addition to
  any other action they may possess. This action is
  selected during the pregame
  (and once chosen, is locked in for the remainder of the game). Players may choose to
  check a player
  and will learn whichever fact they chose. The options are
  1. Checking what nation a player hails from
  2. Checking what location a player hails from
  This action
  counts for all role purposes
  , as a visit and can be blocked/fail. This is why the game cannot begin until
  every
  player has confirmed, both in-thread and via PM.
  • Some players have variants on this power. They are
    1. Free-checker (can choose either nation or location the entire game)
    2. Full free-checker (can choose nation, location, or race the entire game)
    3. Racial checker (can only check race)
    4. Full checker (gets
       all
       of nation, location, and race)
  • Checks resolve last in action resolution.
• All topics this game will be open the whole game
  .
• Each faction, if possessing a non-human race, has a one-shot ability to recruit a human to their faction
  . Emphasis "human". This ability will fail if more than one faction attempts this on the same target. This ability does not work on all humans. Regardless of success or failure, this ability is used up once activated. (The recruiter will be informed if they fail, but not the reason why.) In short, only the unluckiest of humans will get culled. It
  can
  happen, though, so
  be cautious!
• Oh, and one more thing...
  There is a cult faction this game
  . Be warned. Nothing is known about it.

Yeah, these?

If you read them, carefully, and refer back to your role PMs for any confusion, 90% of your questions are already answered.

[Wayward Thinker]

OK, so here is what I have for reads:

Town:

Dav - for being so proactive so early/pointing things out that he doesn't need to
No Retreat - Just seems like Town motive
Expedience - I don't think they do what they are doing as Scum

My one Scum read is:

Nosferatu - doesn't seem to be actually solving the game, but pointing out stuff that really doesn't matter much.

[Wayward Thinker]

OK, so here is what I have for reads:

Town:

Dav - for being so proactive so early/pointing things out that he doesn't need to
No Retreat - Just seems like Town motive
Expedience - I don't think they do what they are doing as Scum

My one Scum read is:

Nosferatu - doesn't seem to be actually solving the game, but pointing out stuff that really doesn't matter much.

~LQ

[Wayward Thinker]

@Titus,

Am I Town?

~LQ

[RAM]

Don't see the difference between Nos and Dav, to be honest. In fact, I think the exact opposite. I like Nos' questions and think Dav is just looking to do stuff.

~ Bins

[Titus]

@LQ, Not sure. Too early to tell. If you stay active, I should have an opinion within a few IRL days. This cold is slowing down my usual processes.

[Titus]

Not a fan of the Nos scumread though. If anything Nos is more active than normal.

@RAM, Is Drixx ok?

[RAM]

Not a fan of the Nos scumread though. If anything Nos is more active than normal.

@RAM, Is Drixx ok?

He's okay, just busy with moving preparations and he originally thought the game wouldn't require his attention until after everyone confirmed.

We're also avoiding the sort of frequent posting that we usually do, just to try to make the game more accessible for everyone. Like he said in the signup thread, our heads at least will be restricting our posting to situations where our commentary will actually be significant.

-Cerb

[Titus]

Ok, I understand. Even if he cannot post, every once in awhile, I'd like to hear from him. Even if it's I am on page 15 and have no real significant thoughts. I know he's moving and it's not scummy to have RL issues (hell I do ATM), but that doesn't mean I'll stop wanting him to be a good scumhunter. Give him a hug for me? Also please tell me what days he is driving, as those will either be strict vla or heavy posting (probably dark in the desert).