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Post Post #750 (ISO) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 6:58 pm

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In post 729, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 718, MathBlade wrote:
In post 712, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 702, Cephrir wrote:
oh good i need to add to my wall of self-quotes about vca being shit
Titus is actually very good with VCA - if she's Town.

As Scum, her analysis is a load of wank.
This is an empty statement. What do you think she is now given her likely connection to Expedience I outlined? (Or rather Expedience's possible connection to her?)
I admit I'm cutting her some slack due to her illness. Plus you and I
always
scumread her, so I'm cutting some slack there, too.

Anyway, an Expedience flip would tell us some things, no?
I am cutting Titus specifically slack as there are possibilities in which Expedience is just a sheeping scum. What I am more concerned with is why Titus was avoiding commentary on the main wagon, Song's now push on you for your House/C+A read, and why people aren't looking at connected dots to try to see further into the game than meta. There are more than 20 pages. If you don't have something more than "meta" or "gut" my bullshit detector is going off. This is why I want to see Titus's response to how when I vote expedience I am somehow confirming them as town.

Just because you cut someone slack doesn't mean you don't ask questions and that you don't poke around and demonstrate crazy shit you see. It seems like right now those three have a hard on for a House/c+a scumread/lynch. If anything it means you do to see if you are crazy or not. And if I am crazy then someone will point out where it is crazy and not just "give Titus some slack".
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In post 305, RAM wrote:pedit — dram is scum? this gets even better
When whoever wrote this post reads this, can you explain this in more detail?
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Post Post #752 (ISO) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 6:59 pm

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In post 737, Expedience wrote:
In post 729, Klingoncelt wrote:Anyway, an Expedience flip would tell us some things, no?
WHat would it tell you?
Whether or not Titus is scum.
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Post Post #753 (ISO) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 6:59 pm

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In post 746, Luna Fox wrote:What is COM hunting?
It's hunting for the identity of an anonymous poster in an anonymous game... Why klingon is citing it here, I have no idea.

(Anti, I thought you decided to use proper grammar. Looks like I need to redo my read in the morning.)
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Post Post #754 (ISO) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:00 pm

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In post 746, Luna Fox wrote:What is COM hunting?
COM hunting is trying to figure out someones main account. Our games on sc2mafia use anon accounts in order to prevent players using meta as basis of reading a player.
In post 740, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 732, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:What do you mean by no conclusions from his questions?
Like for example
Like idk, i feel like he's been posting, commenting and asking questions and i still have no idea where he stands, if this is normal from him in your opinion it may be my gut pinging to his playstyle, but so far i just dont like it.
I don't think this is irregular by him in anyway. I think your a just getting pinged by his style to be honest. I don't have a solid read on him, but nothing seems "strange" or pings me yet. If anything he feels more involved than normal.

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Post Post #755 (ISO) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:00 pm

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Tired, I'm going to keep it short, maybe I'll come back after a shower.

I'm a fan of Expedience death.
Both of the wayward heads made bad entrances and no redeeming factors about that slot.
Someone said beeboy (Salt) was scum and I agree. Actions and words are on different frequencies here.
Titus isn't really actively applying any pressure anywhere.

Add early scumreads on C+A and ASOIAF that haven't dissolved.
3 townreads so far.

pedit- make that 4

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Post Post #756 (ISO) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:00 pm

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triviaRaptors are easily the fastest easily-mounted creature, but they do not handle cold environments well. While the most agile and versatile of mounts when it comes to traversing uneven terrain, they are not well-suited for long-distances.

Fourth Votecount
:
Expedience - 7 (Stormblade, Cephrir, Nosferatu, Luna Fox, Klingoncelt, Mathblade, No Retreat)

rb - 3 (Expedience, Wayward Thinker, BBMolla)

Wayward Thinker - 2 (dramonic, Salt Squad)
Heartless - 1 (copper223)
copper223 - 1 (KuroiXHF)
Cane + Able - 1 (Titus)

Not Voting - 13 (Heartless, Almost50, davesaz, Cane + Able, Tim, A Song of Ice and Fire, RAM, Lady Lambdadelta, rb, TheWayItEnds, Skybird, Toogeloo, Franky)

With
28
alive, it takes
15
to lynch.

Day 1's deadline is Tuesday, August 2nd, @ 9:00 PM PST: (expired on 2016-08-02 21:00:00).
At deadline,
Expedience
would be lynched.

Extras
Spoiler: Changes from Last Votecount (none)
(=0)
Expedience - 7 (Stormblade, Cephrir, Nosferatu, Luna Fox, Klingoncelt, Mathblade, No Retreat)
(=0)
rb - 3 (Expedience, Wayward Thinker, BBMolla)
Wayward Thinker - 2 (dramonic, Salt Squad)
Heartless - 1 (copper223)
copper223 - 1 (KuroiXHF)
Cane + Able - 1 (Titus)

(=0)
Not Voting - 13 (Heartless, Almost50, davesaz, Cane + Able, Tim, A Song of Ice and Fire, RAM, Lady Lambdadelta, rb, TheWayItEnds, Skybird, Toogeloo, Franky)
Last votecount was .
Spoiler: Player Votecount History Day 1
Spoiler: Voting Chronology Day 1
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 08:09p,
Expedience
Votes
rb
in post .
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 08:10p,
Stormblade
Votes
Expedience
in post .
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 08:14p,
copper223
Votes
Heartless
in post .
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 08:16p,
KuroiXHF
Votes
copper223
in post .
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 08:16p,
Cephrir
Votes
Nosferatu
in post .
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 08:21p,
Cephrir
Votes
Expedience
in post .
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 08:26p,
Nosferatu
Votes
Titus
in post .
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 08:28p,
Nosferatu
Votes
Expedience
in post .
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 08:31p,
Salt Squad
Votes
Expedience
in post .
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 08:35p,
Titus
Votes
Cane + Able
in post .
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 08:42p,
Wayward Thinker
Votes
rb
in post .
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 08:44p,
dramonc
votes
Wayward Thinker
in post .
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 08:47p,
Luna Fox
votes
Expedience
in post .
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 08:57p,
Salt Squad
Votes
Wayward Thinker
in post .
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 08:57p,
Klingoncelt
Votes
Expedience
in post .
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 09:25p,
Mathblade
Votes
Expedience
in post .
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 09:25p,
BBMolla
Votes
rb
in post .
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 09:47p,
No Retreat
votes
Expedience
in post .
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Post Post #757 (ISO) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:01 pm

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In post 590, davesaz wrote:
In post 560, Expedience wrote:
In post 555, davesaz wrote:
In post 546, Expedience wrote:
In post 541, rb wrote:Whoever the person that said the game isn't even Day 1, could you please outline how and why these pre-game interactions are apparently unimportant?

It may as well be called Day 1 with the way interactions are going.
I don't like this post because
you don't specifically address anyone
.
Don't like it as in it's scummy?
Yes.
Do you think effort is AI?
Maybe a little, please explain the relevance of this question.
You didn't like that the post was general in nature.
General
posts typically require
less effort
than
specific
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Expedience wrote:I think davesaz is scum because makes no sense.
Emphasis added by me to the 1st quote.

It's a logic thing. Your post was basically If A->B and B->C then A->C. I'm pointing out that B-/>C (does not imply), therefore A->C does not follow.
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Post Post #758 (ISO) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:01 pm

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In post 690, Titus wrote:
In post 686, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 679, Luna Fox wrote:I like the extras section of the vote count, wtg Mastin.
@Klingon: While i appreciate voting my scumread, can you comment on everything else?
I'm not sheeping you.

That's
my
Scumread I'm voting.

I think Titus and the House heads are Town.

I think Lickety's Scum.

The game's too big with too many mechanics for me to comment on everything this freakin' early. Wednesday of next week is far more likely.
Not every read is mechanics based...

Seriously blatantly skirting content and fighting is your scum mo. Saw it in you can be anyone and saga.
I am not waiting, if I have my way, half way through an annoyingly long d1 to hear from you.
This post pinged me and I think it's because it sounds more like Titus is trying to convince herself that Klingoncelt is scum than anything else. That's the best I can explain it.
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Post Post #759 (ISO) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:01 pm

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In post 746, Luna Fox wrote:What is COM hunting?
At that other site, players are forced to use different alts in each game. Said alts are made by the mod and handed out randomly.

COM is a player's actual username.
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Post Post #760 (ISO) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:02 pm

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In post 755, Stormblade wrote:I'm a fan of Expedience death.
Both of the wayward heads made bad entrances and no redeeming factors about that slot.
Someone said beeboy (Salt) was scum and I agree. Actions and words are on different frequencies here.
Titus isn't really actively applying any pressure anywhere.

Add early scumreads on C+A and ASOIAF that haven't dissolved.
3 townreads so far.
This post is several levels of bad, and now my first scumread.

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Post Post #761 (ISO) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:02 pm

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@Math, You're confbiasing. You do that and you're very frequently wrong, regardless of alignment and you then scumread whoever disagrees.
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Post Post #762 (ISO) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:02 pm

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In post 694, Klingoncelt wrote:Town House: Fuck you I'm not sorry.
Scum House: Could you go fuck yourself, please?
That's an overly simplistic summary.

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Post Post #763 (ISO) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:02 pm

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In post 715, Heartless wrote:
Spoiler:
In post 701, Tim wrote:
In post 564, Heartless wrote:
On Tim, the scum read is mostly tonal based. Nothing they're saying is
technically
untrue, Molla likely did make a suboptimal play, but I think the aggression in and is slightly overwrought and they don't really feel appropriate as an immediate visceral reaction to Molla's claim. The fact that Antihero had the same feeling independently in his read-through gives me a little more confidence in my own intuition. (I'm also not a fan of the tone of , though I can't yet put my finger on exactly why.
How are those, and , immediate visceral reactions? My actual immediate visceral reaction was the following:
In post 42, Tim wrote:/confirm

BB any particular reason you felt the need to voluntarily take yourself out of the can't-be-converted pool of people.
I would call the couple of posts that transpired between "context"

As for 449 I'm pretty sure my absolute disdain for luna which I was going to post crept in there, so maybe more invective is present than intended. But my priority at the time was to make that dialogue stop.

----

In that case against Expedience (which I ought to look over a couple more times) that first quote of me was indeed talking about Wayward Thinker and not BBm. Storm, despite being drunk when you wrote that, were you also drunk when you thought it up? (Asking to asses your state of mind at the time, not slighting the validity of the case).

I need to look over wayward thinker later posts.

I'm probably the nth caller at this point for Titus to explain why she thinks TTH is tryharding

Molla could you flesh out your reads a bit or are the scum reads of C+A and rb not more involved than "bad posts" gut reaction


"Immediate" was bad word choice, but my point was that it feels overaggressive for the conversation taking place.
(This post does too, by the way.)
Again, it's not like those posts (or my last) took place in a vacuum. Perceiving BBm to be willfully ignorant and then dismissive frustrated me. The posts that came before that that were part of the same conversation weren't particularly overaggressive, were they? It just doesn't seem like you took into account BBm's own tone and manner of his posts or thought of an alternative answer for "hmm, why would Tim escalate his tone here?" besides "scummy!". For the sake of completion if I perceive you to be misrepresenting me, the tone of my next post will be prone to be heightened above neutral (and honestly, I restrained myself last post)
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Post Post #764 (ISO) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:03 pm

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might be liking mathblade

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Post Post #765 (ISO) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:03 pm

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In post 755, Stormblade wrote:Tired, I'm going to keep it short, maybe I'll come back after a shower.

I'm a fan of Expedience death.
Both of the wayward heads made bad entrances and no redeeming factors about that slot.
Someone said beeboy (Salt) was scum and I agree. Actions and words are on different frequencies here.
Titus isn't really actively applying any pressure anywhere.

Add early scumreads on C+A and ASOIAF that haven't dissolved.
3 townreads so far.

pedit- make that 4

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Post Post #766 (ISO) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:03 pm

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In post 755, Stormblade wrote:I'm a fan of Expedience death.
already?
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Post Post #767 (ISO) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:04 pm

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In post 755, Stormblade wrote:Someone said beeboy (Salt) was scum and I agree. Actions and words are on different frequencies here.
Can you find me an example of this?

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Post Post #768 (ISO) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:04 pm

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In post 761, Titus wrote:@Math, You're confbiasing. You do that and you're very frequently wrong, regardless of alignment and you then scumread whoever disagrees.
How am I conf biasing here? I have suggested a theory of you three and potentially Nos on a different team.
Confirmation bias requires a history not just a suggestion when it was my catchup post.

Explain to me how Expedience is town. Because I do not see how me posting my catchup reads upon replace in confirms Expedience as town.
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Post Post #769 (ISO) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:05 pm

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In post 754, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:If anything he feels more involved than normal.
Thanks for noticing, I'm a bit wired at finally getting back to my roots, with interesting mechanics, multiple factions, and plurality lynch. It will fade once the next big problem hits at work. :eek:
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Post Post #770 (ISO) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:05 pm

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In post 750, MathBlade wrote:
In post 729, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 718, MathBlade wrote:
In post 712, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 702, Cephrir wrote:
oh good i need to add to my wall of self-quotes about vca being shit
Titus is actually very good with VCA - if she's Town.

As Scum, her analysis is a load of wank.
This is an empty statement. What do you think she is now given her likely connection to Expedience I outlined? (Or rather Expedience's possible connection to her?)
I admit I'm cutting her some slack due to her illness. Plus you and I
always
scumread her, so I'm cutting some slack there, too.

Anyway, an Expedience flip would tell us some things, no?
I am cutting Titus specifically slack as there are possibilities in which Expedience is just a sheeping scum. What I am more concerned with is why Titus was avoiding commentary on the main wagon, Song's now push on you for your House/C+A read, and why people aren't looking at connected dots to try to see further into the game than meta. There are more than 20 pages. If you don't have something more than "meta" or "gut" my bullshit detector is going off. This is why I want to see Titus's response to how when I vote expedience I am somehow confirming them as town.

Just because you cut someone slack doesn't mean you don't ask questions and that you don't poke around and demonstrate crazy shit you see. It seems like right now those three have a hard on for a House/c+a scumread/lynch. If anything it means you do to see if you are crazy or not. And if I am crazy then someone will point out where it is crazy and not just "give Titus some slack".
OR...

It's after 2am my time, I've been running on 4 hours' sleep the past few nights, I'm in several other large themes, and this one JUST started.

I'm really not emotionally involved with it right now. By the middle of next week I should care more.

Damned unlikely that there will be a lynch before then.
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Post Post #771 (ISO) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:06 pm

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In post 234, Salt Squad wrote:
In post 233, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:
In post 228, Salt Squad wrote:I can't wait to be able to vote people ^__^

~Bee
who you wanna vote?

lets talk about our reads.

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Cephir - Town posting and paranoia of town reads that are on him (classic mutliball town tell)
BBmolla - Scum doesn't randomly distribute potentially incriminating information in the first few posts of the game when they don't know if the will get town read.
Luna - Gut, I don't think Luna would be this active as scum because she isn't confident in herself as a player.
Fire and Ice - Fire is legit scum hunting using pretty good reasoning which isn't something I expect from a scum!firebringer.
Tim - Has good reads so gut.


Scum
Wayward Thinkers - Random information fishing early on to try and look useful was pretty sketchy and I don't think anything that was asked will lead to anything.
Expedience - Has lots of big posts but hasn't left any sort of impact on me which gives me horrible gut feelings.



Wayward Thinkers right now since Expedience is just gut.

Who do you want to vote and do you have questions about my thoughts on other players?


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In post 644, Cephrir wrote:
In post 635, Salt Squad wrote:Except it's Nos who usually lurks his ass off
if he usually does it, why is it alignment indicative this time?
Last time he was like this he was town in soccer spirits

LQ where is your rb meta from?

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Post Post #772 (ISO) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:06 pm

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Apparently being (Insert time past midnight) has become the go to solution nowadays.
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Post Post #773 (ISO) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:07 pm

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In post 753, Titus wrote:
In post 746, Luna Fox wrote:What is COM hunting?
It's hunting for the identity of an anonymous poster in an anonymous game... Why klingon is citing it here, I have no idea.
Strictly for Firebringer's benefit.
Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."
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Post Post #774 (ISO) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:07 pm

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In post 772, Luna Fox wrote:Apparently being (Insert time past midnight) has become the go to solution nowadays.
^ more scumposting
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