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Post Post #850 (ISO) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:45 pm

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yeah Dave is scum
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Post Post #851 (ISO) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:46 pm

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lol, no that was actually me that said "dont be a shitlord" to you tim. sry, im a little protective + feelin' kinda shitty and taking it out on the thread. i take it back.
In post 830, Tim wrote:Anti at what point did you think the conversation should have ended. Which Molla post?
for me?

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i was also kinda thinking "he's prob just going to get ganked now that he removed himself from the recruit pool" and then i stopped caring though i dont rly know if im justified in that belief or not
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Post Post #852 (ISO) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:47 pm

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In post 848, davesaz wrote:So Titus, you went from what Expedience thought was soft defense right into hard. How can you be so sure?
I have him as scum for trying to fit what I'm posting into scum motivation, but I have a weakness for OMGUSing people and want to check it vs. other evidence.
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Post Post #853 (ISO) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:47 pm

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In post 848, davesaz wrote:So Titus, you went from what Expedience thought was soft defense right into hard. How can you be so sure?
I have him as scum for trying to fit what I'm posting into scum motivation, but I have a weakness for OMGUSing people and want to check it vs. other evidence.
Because I get scumread as town for saying unpopular shit as town all the time.

He's jumping from I don't get it to scum with your read. A Followup would be better, but my way isn't the only way to play.
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Post Post #854 (ISO) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:48 pm

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In post 838, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 829, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:someone explain why they felt the aggression and calling so many people scum is scummy
Because he's been calling me scum for no reason and i don't like that :(

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Post Post #855 (ISO) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:48 pm

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Post Post #856 (ISO) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:48 pm

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So when my gut pings that dave is possibly scum, i am immediately told that what he's doing is NAI.
But now everyone's scumreading him?
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Post Post #857 (ISO) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:49 pm

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In post 850, No Retreat wrote:yeah Dave is scum
You think this is ny 191 Dave?
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Post Post #858 (ISO) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:49 pm

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In post 854, Salt Squad wrote:
In post 838, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 829, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:someone explain why they felt the aggression and calling so many people scum is scummy
Because he's been calling me scum for no reason and i don't like that :(

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Post Post #859 (ISO) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:52 pm

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In post 838, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 829, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:someone explain why they felt the aggression and calling so many people scum is scummy
Because he's been calling me scum for no reason and i don't like that :(
If you're town and aware that you have weaknesses like this, then you shouldn't be voting me.

The emote is so out of place and leads to this interpretation.

This is scummy and shows a difference between stance and implied opinion.

In this way this post is a scumclaim but I don't have the right words to describe it... I feel like I did a bad job of explaining.
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Post Post #860 (ISO) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:52 pm

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In post 845, copper223 wrote:
In post 669, Heartless wrote:
In post 627, copper223 wrote:if they are scum it should become clear pretty soon if you guys stop propping them up.
I would yell at you for misreading me, but this
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You both usually have pretty obvious reactions when scum and under preassure and that's what I was taking advantage of, you also know about it but from what I have seen you both can't really control it; this is how you would more likely react as town, which is a good thing for this game.

I am also not a fan of the cephmeister, what pinged you in particular?
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Post Post #861 (ISO) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:53 pm

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In post 832, Titus wrote:
In post 829, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:I can't see why expe wagon formed.

people just voted him.

someone explain why they felt the aggression and calling so many people scum is scummy

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This is the short version of why Expedience is town aside from Math's push.
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Post Post #862 (ISO) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:53 pm

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let me iso him in that game but the things he's saying and doing are super silly.
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Post Post #863 (ISO) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:53 pm

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shows that Luna Fox isn't really scumreading me, only deliberately OMGUSing. This is true because she is consciously aware of her OMGUS.
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Post Post #864 (ISO) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:53 pm

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In post 161, Expedience wrote:FA your appeal to emotion actually kind of got through to me even though I probably shouldn't let it, so I'll just leave you alone for now.
This post here made me suspicious of you and FA like Expedience invented a reason to get off your wagon. Rather than push him for getting off your wagon for a shitty read you just said something like call it whatever you want. If I felt a player was hypocritical and then did ate to me I would not just "let that shit go."

Post 76 also indicates a potential three way between Titus/Song/FA because Titus says hello town and then Expedience backs it up with a wishy washy response there and it seems like almost no interaction between Titus and Expedience.

Furthermore indicated in post 532 looks like a simple vote color quip but if that is all it was why no Unvote? This makes no sense to me as a quip and instead was potentially a way to bolster Titus/House bullshit.

Between that and the Titus townread drama of FA between Titus and House and Song's recent post with FA I think there is more than enough that hints at potential coalignment.
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Post Post #865 (ISO) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:53 pm

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I feel like if you were town, you'd be more transparent with your thoughts instead of barking scum for no reason, specially because i know it isn't true.
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Post Post #866 (ISO) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:54 pm

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Wait...Titus aren't you against meta reads?
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Post Post #867 (ISO) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:54 pm

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In post 848, davesaz wrote:I have him as scum for trying to fit what I'm posting into scum motivation, but I have a weakness for OMGUSing people and want to check it vs. other evidence.
See, this is the way to say what Luna Fox said without scumclaiming.
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Post Post #868 (ISO) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:55 pm

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as a side note i'm not scumreading ceph (cue the "hydra dissonance" whining, yeah bite my ass we'll work it out)

mostly b/c i know ceph well enough to know that being pointlessly argumentative isnt alignment indicative for him
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Post Post #869 (ISO) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:56 pm

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In post 856, Luna Fox wrote:So when my gut pings that dave is possibly scum, i am immediately told that what he's doing is NAI.
But now everyone's scumreading him?
I agree with you here I think one of two possibilities (that are not mutually exclusive) 1) Dave is scum and/or 2) Scum are sheeping you since you are universally town read for cred.

Dave seems to be shooting peripheral comments rather than committing to a read.
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Post Post #870 (ISO) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:57 pm

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Post Post #871 (ISO) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:58 pm

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ny 191-http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=64409

the Dave is this game was NOT in that game. It was Davsto who is totes a diffrent player unless alt.
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Post Post #872 (ISO) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:59 pm

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vote:Dave
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Post Post #873 (ISO) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:59 pm

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In post 861, davesaz wrote:
In post 832, Titus wrote:
In post 829, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:I can't see why expe wagon formed.

people just voted him.

someone explain why they felt the aggression and calling so many people scum is scummy

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This is the short version of why Expedience is town aside from Math's push.
I found this and wanted to follow up to it separately. How is "people just voted him" an indication of town, in a multi-faction game? Or any game for that matter, wagons do form and sometimes they are on scum.
I'll admit this is a unique setup with multiple town factions, but I am supposing that town and scum still behave similarly and human = town. Wagons do form and on scum, but you're oversimplifying. Expedience is wagoned for unpopular opinions, but not ones that are scummy imho.
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Post Post #874 (ISO) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 8:00 pm

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In post 871, No Retreat wrote:ny 191-http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=64409

the Dave is this game was NOT in that game. It was Davsto who is totes a diffrent player unless alt.
Shit, I am really fucking tired. I think bedtime is in order.

Goodnight.
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