Gistou (Over!)

mastin2 · Post Post #2025 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 1:43 pm

triviaOn Agnigi, humans lose youth at a slower rate than on earth. They are considered in their prime until their 40s. From the age of 40-60, they are the earth equivalent of in their 30s. 60-85 is considered middle-aged. 100 is the average retirement age. Old age kicks in at around 120. The average lifespan of an Agnigi human is therefore 160. This is why vampires' immortality went unnoticed in spite of hunters existing in-public for dozens of years: people thought that hunters simply had a longevity greater than the average human.

Thirteenth Votecount

:

KuroiXHF - 8 (Wayward Thinker, Titus, Heartless, copper223, Luna Fox, No Retreat, Cephrir, Salt Squad)

Wayward Thinker - 6 (dramonic, rb, TheWayItEnds, Tim, KuroiXHF, Mathblade)

Expedience - 4 (Stormblade, Nosferatu, Klingoncelt, davesaz)
Stormblade - 1 (A Song of Ice and Fire)
Almost50 - 1 (BBMolla)
Heartless - 1 (Almost50)
Luna Fox - 1 (Lady Lambdadelta)
Franky - 1 (DrippingGoofball)

Not Voting - 5 (RAM, Toogeloo, Franky, Expedience, Cane + Able)

With

28

alive, it takes

15

to lynch.

Day 1's deadline is Tuesday, August 2nd, @ 9:00 PM PST: (expired on 2016-08-02 21:00:00).
At deadline,

KuroiXHF

would be lynched.

Extras

Spoiler: Changes from Last Votecount

Last votecount was post 1526, page 62.

Spoiler: Player Votecount History Day 1

Spoiler: Voting Chronology Day 1

Given the large amount of changes between this VC and last, some fact-checking would never be a bad idea. Point out anything you don't think is right.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #2026 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 1:44 pm

Let's shake up Franky

Stormblade · Post Post #2027 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 1:46 pm

In post 2025, mastin2 wrote:KuroiXHF - 8 (Wayward Thinker, Titus, Heartless, copper223, Luna Fox, No Retreat, Cephrir, Salt Squad)
Wayward Thinker - 6 (dramonic, rb, TheWayItEnds, Tim, KuroiXHF, Mathblade)

why tho

A

Stormblade · Post Post #2028 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 1:46 pm

When I said to vote, I didn't mean vote the largest bandwagon just because it's expedient to do so.

A

dramonic · Post Post #2029 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 1:49 pm

In post 1950, DrippingGoofball wrote:Wayward Thinker is town

Why what? Also whats this about an announcement?

<<< Check the ban announcement thread. >>>

MathBlade · Post Post #2030 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 1:55 pm

On my way home ETA an hour and a half roughly then I will try to catch up on the billions of posts while I was at work. ETA 1.5 hours

Wake1 · Post Post #2031 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 1:58 pm

Alright everyone, I'm asking for your attention please.

As some of you guessed by now I'm staying in this slot.

I don't do Reads Lists any more, across the board. The best way I get a read on players is through direct engagement.

With respect, please don't ask me for a Reads List, because that's not how I play. Likewise, I'm asking all of you to give me some time to catch up by reading the last few pages, and start getting into the game naturally. In essence, I can better read players through 'hands-on' Scumhunting, rather than just reading what other people post.

This is going to be a challenge, but hopefully a fun one at that.

dramonic · Post Post #2032 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 2:03 pm

Glhf gg no re ttyl noob

No Retreat · Post Post #2033 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 2:18 pm

What the hell have you been doing this whole time wake?

No Retreat · Post Post #2034 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 2:18 pm

Also fuck yes @ house

dramonic · Post Post #2035 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 2:29 pm

classy NR

No Retreat · Post Post #2036 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 2:32 pm

thank you

Titus · Post Post #2037 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 2:33 pm

In post 2027, Stormblade wrote:
In post 2025, mastin2 wrote:KuroiXHF - 8 (Wayward Thinker, Titus, Heartless, copper223, Luna Fox, No Retreat, Cephrir, Salt Squad)
Wayward Thinker - 6 (dramonic, rb, TheWayItEnds, Tim, KuroiXHF, Mathblade)
why tho

A

You want that case?

MathBlade · Post Post #2038 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 3:02 pm

In post 1743, Titus wrote:
In post 1737, rb wrote:Titus is grilling Ice and Fire for posting too much but is seemingly unhappy with MathBlades' level of activity?

????????
I am unhappy with Mathblade being totally antitown/scum this game. Sorry I didn't specify it to your liking.

Define that. Because all I see is me posting what I think and you calling me not interacting with 27 others scum.

Klingoncelt · Post Post #2039 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 3:06 pm

V/LA until the 27th.

Trying to catch up now...

MathBlade · Post Post #2040 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 3:11 pm

In post 1019, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:
In post 875, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:
In post 864, MathBlade wrote:
In post 161, Expedience wrote:FA your appeal to emotion actually kind of got through to me even though I probably shouldn't let it, so I'll just leave you alone for now.
This post here made me suspicious of you and FA like Expedience invented a reason to get off your wagon. Rather than push him for getting off your wagon for a shitty read you just said something like call it whatever you want. If I felt a player was hypocritical and then did ate to me I would not just "let that shit go."

Post 76 also indicates a potential three way between Titus/Song/FA because Titus says hello town and then Expedience backs it up with a wishy washy response there and it seems like almost no interaction between Titus and Expedience.

Furthermore indicated in post 532 looks like a simple vote color quip but if that is all it was why no Unvote? This makes no sense to me as a quip and instead was potentially a way to bolster Titus/House bullshit.

Between that and the Titus townread drama of FA between Titus and House and Song's recent post with FA I think there is more than enough that hints at potential coalignment.
yeah I don't fucking care about expe, he jumped on me for shit , he gt of me for shit. If I was 6 months younger I was confbiased on him right now. I'm done being that kindda person.

again as I said titus does that on different people in all her games spescially when she is town. when someone says titus I remember moonlogic and town block worlds. I don't have any problem with she townreading me like that- beside the fact she explained it with a meta which was wrong and I talked about it with her. anyway she is correct about me so whatever. where did expe backed it up ? your reffering to his stopping scumreading me?

and i don't get the rest of your posts. I felt the house/Titus argument were about when she called me town (about what cooment) and all I saw was them misunderstanding each other.

anyway I'm not in a scum group so there is that. you need to evaluate this baseless read.

~Ice

I went through your ISO to see where you thought I was ignoring you and this is the closest post I could find.

Here you quote yourself but there is no message to respond to as it all seems to be from 875.

However here I go again to explain.

Expedience has been scummy as fuck. Dropping naked votes and in general preaching a case people want to hear.
Your interactions with expedience have been very softball in nature and you and Titus seem to do things at the same time in the thread with the same collaboration. I would have expected some deviation if it was natural.
Titus on the other hand cannot provide a single post of why Expedience is town with a reason. After pushing multiple times she says "everything". This creates a full circle which generally indicates coalignment.

MathBlade · Post Post #2041 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 3:12 pm

In post 1755, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:
In post 1752, Cephrir wrote:@rb mathblade is a they
its a she

My pronoun is they. Let's have discussions on reads rather than gender please.

dramonic · Post Post #2042 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 3:14 pm

In post 2039, Klingoncelt wrote:
V/LA until the 27th.

Trying to catch up now...

what the fuck

MathBlade · Post Post #2043 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 3:15 pm

In post 1757, Expedience wrote:
In post 1727, rb wrote:@Exped + Wayward: why are you buddying each other so hard? How could your townreads of each other be THAT strong?
I'm townreading him kind of strongly I guess. You can't ask "why are you buddying him", because that implies that i'm scum.

This is going to sound bad because I can see you're seeing us as partners or something, because this is honestly similar to what I would say if I was scum with him, but I was actually just trying to look at LicketyQuickety's meta earlier today in search of some certainty because he seemed like the type of player with a strange style. And I came to the conclusion that the majority of the things he did that you might notice from reading his posts were NAI but he was more awkward, less confident, less pushy as scum. And some of the posts like 771 (bottom of the post) and 1434 seem especially town.

I considered making a post about it but I didn't want to because it would seem like I was defending him way too hard, so it is perceptive of you to ask this. I don't even want to post this really.

Bullshit people can ask whatever they want.
Also buddying is not indicative of coalignment in and of itself. Otherwise any town read of scum could be argued as buddying when it is not. It is that buddying in context of the events in the thread that does.

It doesn't sound "bad" as in scummy. I think you picked up your play since the beginning but it does sound flawed.

MathBlade · Post Post #2044 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 3:18 pm

In post 1762, Titus wrote:@RB, Are you crowing you have 3-4 scumreads while ignoring major events? Nope. It's not an obligation for every player to interact with everyone else. Selective reading/pushing is Antitown or scummy. This is our first interaction I believe because the percentage quirk thing is a personality tell. Ignoring half the game to tunnel is NOT a personality tell.

I am looking at main events in the thread. I am just not spamming. I do not have to control things all I do is explain them as best as I can. During those events I extract town reads and then post them accordingly. I don't have to inject myself everywhere and nor do I have the time to do so.

MathBlade · Post Post #2045 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 3:25 pm

In post 1808, Titus wrote:
In post 1805, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:
In post 1803, Expedience wrote:rb, it's actually much more indicative of Wayward Thinker being the same alignment as me because if he's scum it doesn't make sense to townread his counterwagon unless I am also scum (which I'm not).
what does this even mean?

~Ice
It means in a scenario whether it's currently him or Expedience, WT could have jumped on Exp no problem. The fact WT did not suggests town. Or that they are buddies.

See this is an example of what I am talking about with "softball questions".

The stream of consciousness of that post seems to be that Expedience wrote it from a perspective of scum because Expedience said "Being the same alignment because if he's scum" should be "being the same alignment because if he's town" subconsciously he ends the post with "(which I'm not)" like he knows something is wrong there. Then Titus comes along the back end and posts incorrect logic. I am scum reading both WT and Expedience but they do not have to be on the same team. Nor is any of that indicative this early even if multiball.

MathBlade · Post Post #2046 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 3:27 pm

In post 1813, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:
In post 1808, Titus wrote:
In post 1805, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:
In post 1803, Expedience wrote:rb, it's actually much more indicative of Wayward Thinker being the same alignment as me because if he's scum it doesn't make sense to townread his counterwagon unless I am also scum (which I'm not).
what does this even mean?

~Ice
It means in a scenario whether it's currently him or Expedience, WT could have jumped on Exp no problem. The fact WT did not suggests town. Or that they are buddies.
Thats a pure fallacy tbh

a scum can do whatever they want.

~Ice

And the kicker -- Titus never interacts with this post or does anything that looks remotely like a read adjustment to you.

MathBlade · Post Post #2047 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 3:28 pm

In post 1823, Expedience wrote:
In post 1821, rb wrote:
In post 1808, Titus wrote:
In post 1805, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:
In post 1803, Expedience wrote:rb, it's actually much more indicative of Wayward Thinker being the same alignment as me because if he's scum it doesn't make sense to townread his counterwagon unless I am also scum (which I'm not).
what does this even mean?

~Ice
It means in a scenario whether it's currently him or Expedience, WT could have jumped on Exp no problem. The fact WT did not suggests town. Or that they are buddies.
Are you just explaining his point or actually agreeing with it?
What Titus said is what I meant btw.

Titus actually let Expedience claim Titus was their mouthpiece like whaaaat?

MathBlade · Post Post #2048 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 3:32 pm

In post 1924, Titus wrote:I have no objection. 15 votes to lynch and I am townreading Exped.

Then why didn't you have an objection to his naked Unvote?

And for the love of god explain why. And don't say all of their posts. If you think I can't read people show me how to do it. Otherwise stfu.

KuroiXHF · Post Post #2049 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 3:33 pm

In post 2042, dramonic wrote:
In post 2039, Klingoncelt wrote:
V/LA until the 27th.

Trying to catch up now...
what the fuck

What the fuck is right.