Gistou (Over!)

MathBlade · Post Post #2075 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:17 pm

In post 2068, Titus wrote:Dram was skipping. Dgb says you're unreadable.

Let's say you'll never ever be convinced on Expedience. Saying it so loud so early says Math will never work with me, why would I work with her? The tunnels are also a good place to hide if you're scum as you naturally avoid anything inconsistent with that opinion. Given the yellow foxes and purple flying monkeys, no one knows the strategic setup.

I am not telling you to lie and pretend you think Expedience is town and I am not scum. What you cannot do is pick a read and center your whole universe on it being right. You have to be open to others. Right now, no one thinks you are open to others at all. It's why I have given no effort to our dialogue.

People are never going to be receptive if you are not. Constant insistence on one lynch in 28 players doesn't work. You need to sort Kuroi and Cane and these other events.

Or I am ignoring you.

I am not centering my world on Expedience scum. Said it before and I will say it again. I have provided evidence of why I believe what I do and they have only become scummier since then. The naked vote/Unvote for example. Until someone proves they are town I don't switch to someone else and have them become the main focus. I pressure others and poke and prod like WT who is probably scum on a different team than Expedience.

It may not be how you play but it is how I play. I am clearly reading and responding to questions asked to me and what I believe. To categorically say "no one" sounds like a wish list rather than reality.

mastin2 · Post Post #2076 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:18 pm

triviaLycans, like many beasts, have a wide variety to them. What a lycan looks like depends largely on who their progenitor was, and if applicable, who the human transformed was. Depending on these factors, you can get a lycan who moves almost like a groden, striding on all fours, or you can get what is essentially a furry human being. The most dangerous of lycans, of course, are those that are in the middle: having the strength of the beastly lycans, while having the intelligence and versitility of a human.

Fifteenth Votecount

:

KuroiXHF - 8 (Wayward Thinker, Titus, Heartless, copper223, Luna Fox, No Retreat, Cephrir, Salt Squad)

Wayward Thinker - 5 (dramonic, rb, TheWayItEnds, Tim, KuroiXHF)

Expedience - 5 (Stormblade, Nosferatu, Klingoncelt, davesaz, Mathblade)
Stormblade - 1 (A Song of Ice and Fire)
Almost50 - 1 (BBMolla)
Heartless - 1 (Almost50)
Luna Fox - 1 (Lady Lambdadelta)
Franky - 1 (DrippingGoofball)

Not Voting - 5 (RAM, Toogeloo, Franky, Expedience, Cane + Able)

With

28

alive, it takes

15

to lynch.

Day 1's deadline is Tuesday, August 2nd, @ 9:00 PM PST: (expired on 2016-08-02 21:00:00).
At deadline,

KuroiXHF

would be lynched.

Extras

Spoiler: Changes from Last Votecount

Last votecount was post 2057, page 83.

Spoiler: Player Votecount History Day 1

Spoiler: Voting Chronology Day 1

Titus · Post Post #2077 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:20 pm

And Kuroi can you join us Dram?
You do realize Klingon and Math are on your wagon Dram? Look at the Kuroi wagon?

If not, can you say why?

MathBlade · Post Post #2078 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:22 pm

In post 2077, Titus wrote:And Kuroi can you join us Dram?
You do realize Klingon and Math are on your wagon Dram? Look at the Kuroi wagon?

If not, can you say why?

Correction: I am on in spirit. I don't have two votes

The Kuroi wagon is a piece of shit. Don't like who lead it and who is on it.

Titus · Post Post #2079 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:24 pm

In post 2075, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2068, Titus wrote:Dram was skipping. Dgb says you're unreadable.

Let's say you'll never ever be convinced on Expedience. Saying it so loud so early says Math will never work with me, why would I work with her? The tunnels are also a good place to hide if you're scum as you naturally avoid anything inconsistent with that opinion. Given the yellow foxes and purple flying monkeys, no one knows the strategic setup.

I am not telling you to lie and pretend you think Expedience is town and I am not scum. What you cannot do is pick a read and center your whole universe on it being right. You have to be open to others. Right now, no one thinks you are open to others at all. It's why I have given no effort to our dialogue.

People are never going to be receptive if you are not. Constant insistence on one lynch in 28 players doesn't work. You need to sort Kuroi and Cane and these other events.

Or I am ignoring you.
I am not centering my world on Expedience scum. Said it before and I will say it again. I have provided evidence of why I believe what I do and they have only become scummier since then. The naked vote/Unvote for example. Until someone proves they are town I don't switch to someone else and have them become the main focus. I pressure others and poke and prod like WT who is probably scum on a different team than Expedience.

It may not be how you play but it is how I play. I am clearly reading and responding to questions asked to me and what I believe. To categorically say "no one" sounds like a wish list rather than reality.

See that's the issue. There's a boat load of scum and you only want your biggest read to be the focus. No one is expert. Hound their posts. Highlight their alleged scuminess, but your vote can also reward others for doing what you want, draw people out of hiding. By being stubborn you actually weaken your influence.

I have a bunch of people who normally hate me working with me. By listening to their concerns and voting read number two and promoting game health.

Titus · Post Post #2080 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:25 pm

In post 2078, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2077, Titus wrote:And Kuroi can you join us Dram?
You do realize Klingon and Math are on your wagon Dram? Look at the Kuroi wagon?

If not, can you say why?
Correction: I am on in spirit. I don't have two votes

The Kuroi wagon is a piece of shit. Don't like who lead it and who is on it.

That was @dram asking him to vote Kuroi.

I am not wanting dram. He's obvtown.

Stormblade · Post Post #2081 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:25 pm

I almost feel like I'm intruding here or this is none of my business or something but like, I kinda feel the need to say this.

Could you tone it down a bit Titus? Your grilling Math feels a bit.... needlessly cruel. And I honestly feel a bit uncomfortable reading it.

So uh. Yeah.

-Nahdia

Heartless · Post Post #2082 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:25 pm

/sigh

looking at game of thrones i'm not that interested in this kuroi vote....

this is annoying

Titus · Post Post #2083 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:26 pm

In post 2081, Stormblade wrote:I almost feel like I'm intruding here or this is none of my business or something but like, I kinda feel the need to say this.

Could you tone it down a bit Titus? Your grilling Math feels a bit.... needlessly cruel. And I honestly feel a bit uncomfortable reading it.

So uh. Yeah.

-Nahdia

Ok...I will stop for now. Don't see how it's even cruel but I can be oblivious.

dramonic · Post Post #2084 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:27 pm

In post 2077, Titus wrote:And Kuroi can you join us Dram?
You do realize Klingon and Math are on your wagon Dram? Look at the Kuroi wagon?

. . .
Go look at the votecount again Titus.

MathBlade · Post Post #2085 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:28 pm

This isn't a friendly game of tiddlywinks. My vote isn't used as a "reward" for doing what I want. I use it to catch scum and catch scum only.

I don't care about "working with" or "thread health". What I care about is making sure I am understood and that if I am wrong people can correct me with why. I asked you numerous times why Expedience was town and to give me a single post and all I got back were crickets. If someone can explain why Expedience is town I will listen and evaluate that argument but with more than 15 days left there is no reason to go to read number two.

dramonic · Post Post #2086 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:30 pm

Expedience is town.
The reason is that his mindset is that of town.
Now evaluate that argument or whatever it is you wanna do.

Klingoncelt · Post Post #2087 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:32 pm

In post 2042, dramonic wrote:
In post 2039, Klingoncelt wrote:
V/LA until the 27th.

Trying to catch up now...
what the fuck

RL things including health and internet issues.

I'll be here as much as possible.

Toogeloo · Post Post #2088 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:33 pm

Vote: Kuroi

Titus · Post Post #2089 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:33 pm

In post 2084, dramonic wrote:
In post 2077, Titus wrote:And Kuroi can you join us Dram?
You do realize Klingon and Math are on your wagon Dram? Look at the Kuroi wagon?
. . .
Go look at the votecount again Titus.

My bad on the company. Misread.

Still, talk to me on why WT? I don't see anything scummy from them at all and Kuroi has not been good.

Stormblade · Post Post #2090 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:33 pm

In post 2086, dramonic wrote:Expedience is town.
The reason is that his mindset is that of town.
Now evaluate that argument or whatever it is you wanna do.

Can you point me to like, one example of this? With a bit of explanation? Because honestly I feel completely the opposite but I guess I could easily be tunneling hardcore.

-Nahdia

MathBlade · Post Post #2091 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:34 pm

In post 2086, dramonic wrote:Expedience is town.
The reason is that his mindset is that of town.
Now evaluate that argument or whatever it is you wanna do.

Why would town do two naked votes?

What specifically makes you say their mindset is town?

Titus · Post Post #2092 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:34 pm

In post 2087, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 2042, dramonic wrote:
In post 2039, Klingoncelt wrote:
V/LA until the 27th.

Trying to catch up now...
what the fuck
RL things including health and internet issues.

I'll be here as much as possible.

Grr, Saga called.

Before you go, document reads, where you are at page wise, and who you would be voting if caught up. Keep doing that.

Heartless · Post Post #2093 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:39 pm

i have the strangest urge...

to vote copper

dramonic · Post Post #2094 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:41 pm

WT's posts are full of ass-covering and preservation.
Also kuroi's fine and the people on that wagon are (for the most part) awful.

EDIT:

@Math: What makes me say Expe's mindset is town is that I've read his posts.
Town do plenty of naked votes.

@Nahdia: Please standby...

Expedience · Post Post #2095 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:42 pm

In post 2091, MathBlade wrote:Why would town do two naked votes?

...

VOTE: RAM

Because I didn't like Cerberus' posts and I felt like they were trying to win me over as opposed to sorting me before. I also feel like there are a disproportionate number of scum in the inactive players because I don't have many scumreads or strong ones currently.

KuroiXHF · Post Post #2096 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:42 pm

In post 2077, Titus wrote:And Kuroi can you join us Dram?
You do realize Klingon and Math are on your wagon Dram? Look at the Kuroi wagon?

If not, can you say why?

I don't understand what you're trying to say.

In post 2088, Toogeloo wrote:
Vote: Kuroi

I didn't think about it that way, but you bring up a good point.

Stormblade · Post Post #2097 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:43 pm

In post 2081, Stormblade wrote:I almost feel like I'm intruding here or this is none of my business or something but like, I kinda feel the need to say this.

Could you tone it down a bit Titus? Your grilling Math feels a bit.... needlessly cruel. And I honestly feel a bit uncomfortable reading it.

So uh. Yeah.

-Nahdia

She's the evil twin of the two. lol it's funny but it's true.

Albert

Titus · Post Post #2098 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:43 pm

In post 2094, dramonic wrote:WT's posts are full of ass-covering and preservation.
Also kuroi's fine and the people on that wagon are (for the most part) awful.

EDIT:

@Math: What makes me say Expe's mindset is town is that I've read his posts.
Town do plenty of naked votes.

@Nahdia: Please standby...

Details?

@anti, that's my sole concern on this wagon. Why copper?

Heartless · Post Post #2099 (ISO) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:44 pm

kuroi, which alignment do you prefer playing?