Gistou (Over!)

[Expedience]

I'm not sure what alignment Kurio is and his behavior generally seems unreadable to me, but I saw him get mislynched before so that's why I unvoted.

First off, a three-person Hydra? I just realized this. Fucking what?

Strong Town:
Lean Town: Dramonic, Almost50, Cane and Able, Tim, ASOIAF, RAM, Expedience
Null/Unsorted: Klingoncelt, Titus, Nosferatu, Stormblade, davesaz, Copper, Lady L, RB, Goofball, BBMolla, Toogeloo, Franky
Lean Scum: Heartless, Salt Squad, No Retreat , Cephrir, TWIE
Strong Scum: Wayward Thinker, Luna

BTW, just realized I'm finally playing a game with my old pal, Nero. Hi Nero!

And yes, my list is really undeveloped. I'm aware.

Underdeveloped my ass

You have Luna as scum, C and A as strong town, me as null, no retreat as scum, heartless as scum and despite Math chainsawing the fuck for you, you forgot she exists

It's just garbage. Total garbage.

I dislike this post, it sounds over the top to me.

[copper223]

@anti, that's my sole concern on this wagon. Why copper?

in retrospect, his entrance where he came after us and then how he backed off kinda gives me a smokescreen feel now

like... if ur gonna go balls deep and give a detail like "3 alarm bells" then why would you call the react test so soon? not to mention he sort of telegraphed it in his "dont prop them up" post

idk

I'll have to look at copper in more detail. My biggest concern is that I don't remember anything that Copper has done. That gives him a we didn't playtest this feel rather than his town games.

If you went there, I wouldn't be angry as I am not townreading him, but we also have a very shiny wagon here.

I feel conflicted. I want to lead a wagon full of obvtown on obvscum. Yet, I'm ok with being just a member.

Please come back if it goes nowhere?

This is a pretty embarassing read if true.

[Expedience]

if lld does not come in here and do shit i would not be opposed to lynching her

Same. After reading DGB's post I went and looked, and her entrance felt like scum trying to seem aggressive initially coming into the thread.

[Expedience]

rb, it's actually much more indicative of Wayward Thinker being the same alignment as me because if he's scum it doesn't make sense to townread his counterwagon unless I am also scum (which I'm not).

what does this even mean?

~Ice

It means in a scenario whether it's currently him or Expedience, WT could have jumped on Exp no problem. The fact WT did not suggests town. Or that they are buddies.

See this is an example of what I am talking about with "softball questions".

The stream of consciousness of that post seems to be that Expedience wrote it from a perspective of scum because Expedience said "Being the same alignment because if he's scum" should be "being the same alignment because if he's town" subconsciously he ends the post with "(which I'm not)" like he knows something is wrong there. Then Titus comes along the back end and posts incorrect logic. I am scum reading both WT and Expedience but they do not have to be on the same team. Nor is any of that indicative this early even if multiball.

Does not compute

I'm townreading a song of Ice and Fire, and I'm leaning scum on Titus but feeling conflicted about that.

[dramonic]

@dram can you give details on your Wt read and why he's self preserving? Also, can you talk about why the Kuroi wagon is shit?

His stance are weak as fuck and he ovejustifies his plays.
Kuroi wagon has WT, you, Toog, Luna, and beeboy on it. It could hardly have more flashing red lights saying "bad wagon". And that's ignoring the fact that his play isn't scummy anyways.

@Dave: I've given reason for why those quotes are town literally one post earlier.


Heartless is steadily burning through their towncred.

[Heartless]

This is very concerning, you received a bunch of unjustified town or leave alone reads so I had to tell them to stoo the prop. up, I explained why that shouldn't be a big deal even if it showed what I was up to cause you both can't control your dislike for scum that much, I should know, I badgered TTH in shaman for the whole game to get her out of her scum lurk mode with little success and I like to think I am a good motivator.

Now where is TTH and why are you putting out feelers for a copper wagon based on this stuff you likely know doesn't hold water are the questions in my mind, could be I called the test too early for real after all, you did tell me Aneninen was scum the last time after all.

havent kept track but tth has been making maybe like half the posts...? so yeah she's here...

if ur referring to something specific in jk9++ chances are i do not remember what it

another thing: what about the expedience wagon interested you?

[Titus]

Dram, without insulting me. Explain it to me as if I have no clue.

Setting aside WT, I like myself as town (duh), toog appears townie, Luna is likely town, beeboy has been good too. I see green lights. We're reading this game differently now. Like totally.

Like I can Se one thing that might appear self preservationy at the start, but LQ always asks me that and he has good follow up.

[Titus]

if lld does not come in here and do shit i would not be opposed to lynching her

Same.

I think a list of vig shots you me and dgb approve of is a good idea no?

[dramonic]

You're mistaking town for protown.

EDIT: no

[dramonic]

We think we will go with a vote on rb for now.
VOTE: RB

This vote is placed for a twofold reason. The first is the constant on the percentages. Planning ahead and running the numbers pings me as scummy
The second is the general sheeping of opinions.

~Suz

p-edit, goodness gracious everyone is posting so fast.

It just seems like Exp is too "out there" to be Scum IMO. I have the same problem sometimes.

You two are on the same scumteam, aren't you?

Nope, I'm not Scum. But just in case you think I am, I have never been that obvious as Scum to give a teammate such a strong town read. In short, I'm not stupid, I just know when a Town player is misunderstood because I've been there.

These are probably the two scummiest posts in the game, and it's not even a close one.

[Heartless]

Heartless is steadily burning through their towncred.

oh...

ok

[Lady Lambdadelta]

if lld does not come in here and do shit i would not be opposed to lynching her

I asked someone to help run me through things, and checked several pages of posts after.

No help.

so one more fucking time, I am not reading 2000 posts. I've been in this game under 48 hours. I feel like I've replaced into a fucking game on day 5.

If you want me to help, then fucking give me things to give opinions on, direct me. Use me as a bloodhound, IDGAF.

But don't tell me to "get in here and do shit" when fucks like you have made it literally cancer to try and do so.

[copper223]

This is very concerning, you received a bunch of unjustified town or leave alone reads so I had to tell them to stoo the prop. up, I explained why that shouldn't be a big deal even if it showed what I was up to cause you both can't control your dislike for scum that much, I should know, I badgered TTH in shaman for the whole game to get her out of her scum lurk mode with little success and I like to think I am a good motivator.

Now where is TTH and why are you putting out feelers for a copper wagon based on this stuff you likely know doesn't hold water are the questions in my mind, could be I called the test too early for real after all, you did tell me Aneninen was scum the last time after all.

havent kept track but tth has been making maybe like half the posts...? so yeah she's here...

if ur referring to something specific in jk9++ chances are i do not remember what it

another thing: what about the expedience wagon interested you?

I told you once already, his posting style and frequency are different from his usual town game and I have a town-read on Luna. I changed my mind when he said that if she had claimed she had slipped in her claimed PT he was changing his mind, I noted the same "ocam logical" approach in his town games and wrote it down for future reference if I need a town read from him as scum.

Maybe 1/4 of the posts is what it looks like to me.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

if lld does not come in here and do shit i would not be opposed to lynching her

Same.

I think a list of vig shots you me and dgb approve of is a good idea no?

oh is it time to make another fucking town block Titus?

That worked out for you SO WELL the last time you tried it in a large.

Or have you fucking forgotten how badly you played?

[dramonic]

Holy shit this game has over 2k posts.

[Heartless]

holy shitballs the ppl that show up when i talk about them

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Holy shit this game has over 2k posts.

YEAH.

AND IT'S BEEN LESS THAN 48 HOURS SINCE DAY 1 OFFICIALLY STARTED.

[Stormblade]

this game has 28 people. the hell did u guys expect?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

holy shitballs the ppl that show up when i talk about them

I check the thread to skim for my name in the vague hope that someone might be able to help me care about this game or do something with me that will help me generate reads in this shitstorm.

[Heartless]

I told you once already, his posting style and frequency are different from his usual town game and I have a town-read on Luna. I changed my mind when he said that if she had claimed she had slipped in her claimed PT he was changing his mind, I noted the same "ocam logical" approach in his town games and wrote it down for future reference if I need a town read from him as scum.

no, no not about that. i couldve sworn you said something about "looking at his wagon" or something to that effect. let me look back.

Maybe 1/4 of the posts is what it looks like to me.

sounds about right i dont keep track of how much i spam post

[Lady Lambdadelta]

this game has 28 people. the hell did u guys expect?

There are three people with close to or over 200 posts.

Is it normal to make 200 posts by now in day one? Some players don't even make 200 posts in a fucking GAME.

<<< This is something I cannot stop.
I can recommend a player post in moderation.
If they spam, I can warn them they are spamming.
But otherwise, it is one area where I do not hold full control. >>>

[Heartless]

Expe said something that makes me think he is toen btw, so a look at his wagon is in order.

THIS
this was it

what was this about?

[Titus]

if lld does not come in here and do shit i would not be opposed to lynching her

Same.

I think a list of vig shots you me and dgb approve of is a good idea no?

oh is it time to make another fucking town block Titus?

That worked out for you SO WELL the last time you tried it in a large.

Or have you fucking forgotten how badly you played?

The problem wasn't that I was failing to recognize town. It was that I failed to listen to my biggest townreads. I was a failure at listening because I wanted to repeat Sudoken.

[Stormblade]

really not impressed with the "let's lynch people that aren't doing stuff" attitudes we're seeing. seems lazy to me. people will get their bearings in time.

LLD, why don't you ISO a few of the main wagons and tell us what you think. Namely; Kuroi, Wayward, and Expedience.

-nahdia

[Titus]

@LLD, Your thoughts and reads? Or are you going to bitch slap me? I can put you on ignore if you're just going to yell Titus sucks with no direction to improve.