Gistou (Over!)

[Cephrir]

Shakira's "Try everything"

^god tier town here

[Titus]

Coming around on Math being town as well. The question is, can we work with them?

[Heartless]

Franky is V/LA tho?
Assuming that's who we're talking about

he is....?!

couldve fooled me w his sitewide activity

[Heartless]

could we plz stop second guessing things based on "easy" or not thats an arbitrary label that doesnt mean anything
tia

[Heartless]

Franky is V/LA tho?
Assuming that's who we're talking about

he is....?!

couldve fooled me w his sitewide activity

ok now i see he was on vla until today

nvm for now.

[TheWayItEnds]

my vote isnt even on kuroi but please panic more.

im answering your question about what whats in kurois iso that everyone doesnt like because i just went through it because i was asked for a kuroi read.

You're actually not answering my question since I want to know why Wayward is a town read.

Asking questions = panicking

In any case, should I not be concerned when I feel like we're about to mislynch a counter-wagon and that my top scumread is being completely ignored by majority of the game, despite being the 2nd largest wagon?

out of curiosity do you know where my vote is?

id bet a lot that you dont.

Unvote

[dramonic]

WT no?

[rb]

Lawd, that's what I get for posting at 4am

[rb]

Good night, vote Wayward. Thanks.

[DrippingGoofball]

Mainly Kuroi/WF/Expedience

VOTE: Unvote

I think this Kuroi vote feels too "easy" like right before that key point in a movie where the person you think is your friend gives you exactly what but it turns out not to actually be the thing you wanted. And the Expedience wagon is full of people who seem to have stagnated their vote. While I think Expedience is scum with you and so is Song my gut has screamed that it isn't right. Like my brain and gut are at odds with each other so I am rereading today after work.

Gotta go.

CHICKEN

[Nosferatu]

I fucked up not getting in a hydra tbh

[davesaz]

Doing an ISO and ran across this.

It has come to my attention that rb may have scum slipped.

The start of the sentence sounds like someone pointed this out to you. Where did that occur?

[mastin2]

I dunno if it's off-topic, you people are CONSTANTLY referencing other games

Yeah, about that.

If you're using meta in the game, that's all nice and good (assuming the game the meta is from is, in fact, completed), but aside from that? Keep comments about other games...in those other games. This should be possible, if that game's thread is still open.

This has been a bit of a problem; please don't make me intervene too many times on the subject.

[davesaz]

The reason I did that ISO was to find out why WT are being scumread, since the divide between those townreading and scumreading the slot is quite deep. I looked at 1434 (which was cited as a major reason for the scumread) and the positions taken there are pretty reasonable. If the argument about that post was that it's too narrowly focused, that might be valid, but I don't buy into the notion that this post falls short of making points. I'm not too fond of the lack of followup on the points made there, but this game is already an excellent example of why lack of followup isn't AI by itself.

The more telling thing IMO is that the slot's overall focus is quite narrow and they seem to be actively avoiding the main controversies in the thread. This suggests trying to fly under the radar. So while the often-referenced 1434 isn't bad in its own right, the overall pattern is scummy.

[Heartless]

Spoiler: If you're not copper and you're short on reading time you can probably safely skip this

copper, I'm not sure if it's a consequence of you phone posting. But, from the way you're talking to Ceph and Luna, it looks to me like you could be coming a little unraveled.

So let's take a moment to unpack why you're scumreading me. Is it because of "meta" established in Shaman? Because I'm not lurking. The "tonal" read that suddenly materialized this deep into the game sounds dubious at best.

If you're scumreading me because I'm voting/scumreading you, then I'm going to ask you the exact same question Cephrir asked: Why

should

I be townreading you?
The "reaction test" at the beginning I could see you doing as either alignment. Since then you haven't been doing too terribly much when you've been here. I still don't think Anti's gotten a good, specific answer to the "why is hunting from Expedience's wagon a priority?" line of questioning both in the fundamental reason

why

you're doing it and what thoughts/reads are coming of it.

I scumread your response to Anti's poking last night because you looked more concerned with slapping Anti back than defending/explaining what you did in the early game. Also, from Greatest Idea, I remember you used "scumreading" my hydra (that one with Jingle) as a scum strategy to discredit me and it felt like that's where you were angling.
After that, your posts have a very "shoot from the hip" feel that's nearly impossible to follow.

I'm going to agree with Anti and say that I'd rather wait and read an understandable post than watch you spiral into... whatever this is you're doing now.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Cursory reads from the last 10 pages or so tell me Cephrir and Dramonic and Salt Squad and prooooooooooooooobably RB are town.

that last one is a little less certain, but those first 3 are like, solid gold.

So, Cephrir, Dramonic, Salt Squad: Give me a list of 2 people each you want me to look at in great detail and I'll fucking see if I can't motivate to find a scumfuck to lynch!

[mastin2]

trivia

Since some lycans have the power to transform into humans, it is no surprise the races containing the lycan strain have this potential as well. In wuldens, it is virtually unused: after all, why would they willingly spend time in their 'inferior' form? However, the most dangerous of nosferatu are the ones who have this gift, as it allows them to take on a fully human appearance, in skin tone and eye color.

Eighteenth Votecount

:

KuroiXHF - 8 (Wayward Thinker, Cephrir, Salt Squad, Toogeloo, BBMolla, DrippingGoofball, Luna Fox, Titus)

Wayward Thinker - 4 (dramonic, Tim, KuroiXHF, rb)

Expedience - 3 (Stormblade, Nosferatu, Klingoncelt)
copper223 - 2 (RAM, Heartless)
Heartless - 2 (Almost50, copper223)
RAM - 1 (Expedience)
Luna Fox - 1 (Lady Lambdadelta)

Not Voting - 7 (Franky, Wake88, No Retreat, A Song of Ice and Fire, davesaz, Mathblade, TheWayItEnds)

With

28

alive, it takes

15

to lynch.

Day 1's deadline is Tuesday, August 2nd, @ 9:00 PM PST: (expired on 2016-08-02 21:00:00).
At deadline,

KuroiXHF

would be lynched.

Extras

Spoiler: Changes from Last Votecount

(-5/+3)

KuroiXHF - 8 (Wayward Thinker,

Titus

,

Heartless

,

copper223

,

Luna Fox

,

No Retreat

, Cephrir, Salt Squad, Toogeloo, BBMolla,

DrippingGoofball

,

Luna Fox, Titus

)

(-2/+1)

Wayward Thinker - 4 (dramonic,

rb

,

TheWayItEnds

, Tim, KuroiXHF,

rb

)

(-2)

Expedience - 3 (Stormblade, Nosferatu, Klingoncelt,

davesaz

,

Mathblade

)

(+1)

Heartless - 2 (Almost50,

copper223

)

(=0)

Luna Fox - 1 (Lady Lambdadelta)

(-1)

Stormblade - 0 (

A Song of Ice and Fire

)

(-1)

Franky - 0 (

DrippingGoofball

)

(+2/-2)

RAM - 1 (Expedience,

rb

,

Luna Fox

)

(+3/-1)

copper223 - 2 (RAM, Heartless,

Titus

)

(+6/-2)

Not Voting - 7 (

RAM

, Franky, Wake88,

No Retreat, A Song of Ice and Fire, davesaz

,

rb

,

Mathblade, TheWayItEnds

)

Last votecount was post 2175, page 88.

Spoiler: Player Votecount History Day 1

• Heartless:
  Wayward Thinker===>Almost50===>copper223
  
• KuroiXHF:
  copper223===>TheWayItEnds===>Wayward Thinker
  
• Klingoncelt:
  Expedience
  
• Titus:
  Cane + Able/Wake88===>KuroiXHF===>copper223===>KuroiXHF
  
• dramonic:
  Wayward Thinker
  
• Salt Squad:
  Expedience===>Wayward Thinker===>Stormblade===>KuroiXHF
  
• Almost50:
  Heartless
  
• Nosferatu:
  Titus===>Expedience
  
• Mathblade:
  Expedience===>Wayward Thinker===>Expedience==>Unvote
  
• Wayward Thinker:
  rb===>KuroiXHF
  
• Stormblade:
  Expedience
  
• davesaz:
  Expedience==>Unvote
  
• copper223:
  Heartless===>KuroiXHF===>Heartless
  
• Cane + Able/Wake88:
  Titus==>Unvote
  
• Tim:
  Wayward Thinker
  
• No Retreat:
  Expedience--->davesaz--->Heartless--->KuroiXHF-->Unvote
  
• A Song of Ice and Fire:
  Stormblade==>Unvote
  
• RAM:
  copper223
  
• Lady Lambdadelta:
  Luna Fox
  
• rb:
  Wayward Thinker===>RAM==>Unvote===>rb
  
• Cephrir:
  Nosferatu===>Expedience===>Almost50===>KuroiXHF
  
• Luna Fox:
  Expedience-->Unvote--->Almost50--->Stormblade-->Unvote--->KuroiXHF--->RAM--->KuroiXHF
  
• Expedience:
  rb===>Titus===>rb===>Luna Fox===>KuroiXHF==>Unvote===>RAM
  
• BBMolla:
  rb===>>Titus===>>Almost50===>>KuroiXHF
  
• TheWayItEnds:
  Wayward Thinker-->Unvote
  
• DrippingGoofball:
  Franky===>KuroiXHF
  
• Toogeloo:
  Toogeloo
  
• Franky:

Spoiler: Voting Chronology Day 1

On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 08:09p,

Expedience

Votes

rb

in post 576.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 08:10p,

Stormblade

Votes

Expedience

in post 578.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 08:14p,

copper223

Votes

Heartless

in post 583.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 08:16p,

KuroiXHF

Votes

copper223

in post 586.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 08:16p,

Cephrir

Votes

Nosferatu

in post 588.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 08:21p,

Cephrir

Votes

Expedience

in post 591.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 08:26p,

Nosferatu

Votes

Titus

in post 598.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 08:28p,

Nosferatu

Votes

Expedience

in post 601.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 08:31p,

Salt Squad

Votes

Expedience

in post 606.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 08:35p,

Titus

Votes

Cane + Able/Wake88

in post 615.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 08:42p,

Wayward Thinker

Votes

rb

in post 629.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 08:44p,

dramonc

votes

Wayward Thinker

in post 639.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 08:47p,

Luna Fox

votes

Expedience

in post 649.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 08:57p,

Salt Squad

Votes

Wayward Thinker

in post 662.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 08:57p,

Klingoncelt

Votes

Expedience

in post 663.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 09:25p,

Mathblade

Votes

Expedience

in post 692.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 09:25p,

BBMolla

Votes

rb

in post 693.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 09:47p,

No Retreat

votes

Expedience

in post 724.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 10:02p,

A Song of Ice and Fire

Votes

Stormblade

in post 760.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 10:09p,

Expedience

Votes

Titus

in post 780.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 10:14p,

Expedience

Votes

rb

in post 793.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 10:59p,

No Retreat

votes

davesaz

in post 872.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 11:12p,

rb

Votes

Wayward Thinker

in post 885.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 11:26p,

BBMolla

Unvotes

(

rb

)

, and Votes

Titus

in post 896.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 11:26p,

Heartless

Votes

Wayward Thinker

in post 910.
On Tue, Jul 07/12/16 @ 02:00a,

Expedience

Votes

Luna Fox

in post 932.
On Tue, Jul 07/12/16 @ 08:59a,

TheWayItEnds

votes

Wayward Thinker

in post 1111.
On Tue, Jul 07/12/16 @ 09:51a,

Luna Fox

unvotes

(

Expedience

)

in post 1140.
On Tue, Jul 07/12/16 @ 11:39a,

KuroiXHF

Votes

TheWayItEnds

in post 1161.
On Tue, Jul 07/12/16 @ 11:42a,

davesaz

Votes

Expedience

in post 1164.
On Tue, Jul 07/12/16 @ 01:52p,

Heartless

Votes

Almost50

in post 1220.
On Tue, Jul 07/12/16 @ 02:09p,

Cephrir

Votes

Almost50

in post 1234.
On Tue, Jul 07/12/16 @ 02:31p,

BBMolla

Unvotes

(

Titus

)

, and Votes

Almost50

in post 1246.
On Tue, Jul 07/12/16 @ 02:39p,

Lady Lambdadelta

votes

Luna Fox

in post 1257.
On Tue, Jul 07/12/16 @ 04:29p,

Luna Fox

votes

Almost50

in post 1325.
On Tue, Jul 07/12/16 @ 05:06p,

Almost50

Votes

Heartless

in post 1338.
On Tue, Jul 07/12/16 @ 06:36p,

Tim

votes

Wayward Thinker

in post 1420.
On Tue, Jul 07/12/16 @ 06:42p,

No Retreat

votes

Heartless

in post 1430.
On Tue, Jul 07/12/16 @ 06:51p,

Wayward Thinker

Votes

KuroiXHF

in post 1434.
On Tue, Jul 07/12/16 @ 06:52p,

Titus

Votes

KuroiXHF

in post 1435.
On Tue, Jul 07/12/16 @ 08:40p,

KuroiXHF

Votes

Wayward Thinker

in post 1510.
On Tue, Jul 07/12/16 @ 11:06p,

Salt Squad

Votes

Stormblade

in post 1595.
On Tue, Jul 07/12/16 @ 11:37p,

Cane + Able/Wake88

Votes

Titus

in post 1621.
On Tue, Jul 07/12/16 @ 11:48p,

Luna Fox

votes

Stormblade

in post 1632.
On Wed, Jul 07/13/16 @ 06:05a,

copper223

Votes

KuroiXHF

in post 1699.
On Wed, Jul 07/13/16 @ 06:18a,

Mathblade

Votes

Wayward Thinker

in post 1711.
On Wed, Jul 07/13/16 @ 06:32a,

Expedience

Votes

KuroiXHF

in post 1728.
On Wed, Jul 07/13/16 @ 07:09a,

Expedience

Unvotes

KuroiXHF

in post 1793.
On Wed, Jul 07/13/16 @ 07:19a,

Luna Fox

unvotes

(

Stormblade

)

in post 1801.
On Wed, Jul 07/13/16 @ 09:06a,

Luna Fox

votes

KuroiXHF

in post 1896.
On Wed, Jul 07/13/16 @ 09:48a,

No Retreat

votes

KuroiXHF

in post 1917.
On Wed, Jul 07/13/16 @ 10:00a,

Cephrir

Votes

KuroiXHF

in post 1919.
On Wed, Jul 07/13/16 @ 01:04p,

Cane + Able/Wake88

Unvotes

(

Titus

)

in post 1943.
On Wed, Jul 07/13/16 @ 01:51p,

Salt Squad

Votes

KuroiXHF

in post 1958.
On Wed, Jul 07/13/16 @ 02:58p,

DrippingGoofball

Votes

Franky

in post 2004.
On Wed, Jul 07/13/16 @ 06:46p,

Mathblade

Votes

Expedience

in post 2058.
On Wed, Jul 07/13/16 @ 07:33p,

Toogeloo

votes

KuroiXHF

in post 2088.
On Wed, Jul 07/13/16 @ 07:42p,

Expedience

Votes

RAM

in post 2095.
On Wed, Jul 07/13/16 @ 08:48p,

BBMolla

Unvotes

(

Almost50

)

, and Votes

KuroiXHF

in post 2160.
On Wed, Jul 07/13/16 @ 09:44p,

No Retreat

unvotes

(

KuroiXHF

)

in post 2182.
On Wed, Jul 07/13/16 @ 10:15p,

A Song of Ice and Fire

Unvotes

(

Stormblade

)

in post 2204.
On Wed, Jul 07/13/16 @ 10:57p,

davesaz

Unvotes

(

Expedience

)

in post 2226.
On Thu, Jul 07/14/16 @ 04:50a,

DrippingGoofball

Votes

KuroiXHF

in post 2285.
On Thu, Jul 07/14/16 @ 05:26a,

RAM

Votes

copper223

in post 2291.
On Thu, Jul 07/14/16 @ 07:06a,

Heartless

Votes

copper223

in post 2359.
On Thu, Jul 07/14/16 @ 07:33a,

copper223

Votes

Heartless

in post 2380.
On Thu, Jul 07/14/16 @ 07:56a,

rb

Votes

RAM

in post 2400.
On Thu, Jul 07/14/16 @ 08:08a,

Luna Fox

votes

RAM

in post 2411.
On Thu, Jul 07/14/16 @ 08:16a,

Luna Fox

votes

KuroiXHF

in post 2423.
On Thu, Jul 07/14/16 @ 08:25a,

Titus

Votes

copper223

in post 2433.
On Thu, Jul 07/14/16 @ 08:44a,

rb

Unvotes

(

RAM

)

in post 2446.
On Thu, Jul 07/14/16 @ 09:13a,

rb

Votes

Wayward Thinker

in post 2466.
On Thu, Jul 07/14/16 @ 09:21a,

Titus

Votes

KuroiXHF

in post 2478.
On Thu, Jul 07/14/16 @ 10:43a,

Mathblade

Unvotes

(

Expedience

)

in post 2549.
On Thu, Jul 07/14/16 @ 11:33a,

TheWayItEnds

unvotes

(

Wayward Thinker

)

in post 2555.

[Stormblade]

Cursory reads from the last 10 pages or so tell me Cephrir and Dramonic and Salt Squad and prooooooooooooooobably RB are town.

that last one is a little less certain, but those first 3 are like, solid gold.

So, Cephrir, Dramonic, Salt Squad: Give me a list of 2 people each you want me to look at in great detail and I'll fucking see if I can't motivate to find a scumfuck to lynch!

What gives you dram town? I'm null on him but town on you so would like to be enlightened, thank u [=

-Nahdia

[dramonic]

WT and Kuroi. You can look into expe too if you want but thats just cuz I want to make sure youre aware of his... play... as a whole

Edit: My tears are a river

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Cursory reads from the last 10 pages or so tell me Cephrir and Dramonic and Salt Squad and prooooooooooooooobably RB are town.

that last one is a little less certain, but those first 3 are like, solid gold.

So, Cephrir, Dramonic, Salt Squad: Give me a list of 2 people each you want me to look at in great detail and I'll fucking see if I can't motivate to find a scumfuck to lynch!

What gives you dram town? I'm null on him but town on you so would like to be enlightened, thank u [=

-Nahdia

Gut from the way he's posting. I can't really and won't explain too much more (Explaining townreads is anti-town etc) but it's just a strong feeling I have.

[Salt Squad]

Cursory reads from the last 10 pages or so tell me Cephrir and Dramonic and Salt Squad and prooooooooooooooobably RB are town.

that last one is a little less certain, but those first 3 are like, solid gold.

So, Cephrir, Dramonic, Salt Squad: Give me a list of 2 people each you want me to look at in great detail and I'll fucking see if I can't motivate to find a scumfuck to lynch!

Kuroi and Wayward are both scum.

[Salt Squad]

^ ~Bee

[dramonic]

So you think they're crossbussing?

[TheWayItEnds]

or its multiball?

[Titus]

or its multiball?

The flavor confirms multiball.