Gistou (Over!)

[RAM]

Math is right about the 5 factions, that is obviously the case and RB gets scum points for trying to cast doubt on it.

@Expe
So you are saying she has good tone as scum?

What I am getting is that rude Kling is more likely to be town Kling, that is likely what she means about Titus lying about her meta.

RB? Do you mean no retreat? If not please explain?

Pedit:

Ram I confused pronouns explained in 2815.

Cool. You're in the clear then. Still doesn't make sense that KC would agree with you about something she didn't even say.

I know you have her as scum already, but do you think that's a reasonable thing to be concerned about, or is it something easily explained?

-Cerb

[MathBlade]

Define that RAM. Not following the question.

[RAM]

You say KC was connecting Expe and Kuroi. She wasn't. Instead of correcting you, she agrees that at one point she was connecting those two, but has since changed her mind.

That inconsistency /contradiction concerns me....like Expe said, it's as though she's not actually holding these reads, and so just went with what you said, even though it wasn't true.

-Cern

[No Retreat]

copper223 what IS your read on RB?

[RAM]

Like my first thought was that perhaps you and KC were scum together, and in your PT she had said something about that connection but you hadnt realized she never said it in the main thread, thus why I was specifically questioning you about it. Your answer was acceptable, so it means just KC looks suspicious for that particular interaction.

Now I'm asking you(and anyone else, really)to look at that and tell me if you think that's actually cause for suspicion or if I'm blowing it out of proportion.

-Cerb

[copper223]

Not very deep but leaning scum.

[MathBlade]

You say KC was connecting Expe and Kuroi. She wasn't. Instead of correcting you, she agrees that at one point she was connecting those two, but has since changed her mind.

That inconsistency /contradiction concerns me....like Expe said, it's as though she's not actually holding these reads, and so just went with what you said, even though it wasn't true.

-Cern

Ahhh now I understand the question. KlingonCelt's positions do concern me as I explained earlier I find their reads wholly inconsistent and impossible. See post 2818.

I need more votes

[No Retreat]

I also wasn't casting any doubt, I just didn't understand where she got it *shrugz*

[MathBlade]

Not very deep but leaning scum.

Please answer my question to you in 28417

[MathBlade]

2847*

Dear lord let's not have 28000 posts in D1

[copper223]

there's this but I would think it would just be flavor

[copper223]

I already did MB, I meant no retreat.

If you want answers to a post please link it

[RAM]

Copper, since you're here...thoughts on KC? Specifically regarding what I asked MathBlade about on this page?

-Cerb

[Nosferatu]

Oh I don't disagree with the notion or the possibility. What I want to see is your reads on the game as a whole. Not just shoot off a post or two and disappear.

I want to stay but it's discouraging when everytime I come back it's another 20 pages. I'm over 60 pages behind right now and I could probably catch up, but it would take a lot of time that I don't really wanna spend. Especially not when I'd had to outpace the rest of you guys, and while I could speedread, my reads wouldn't develop from it and it would make it useless. It's very demotivating tbh.

VOTE: WT

expe wagon is dying for some reason, and this was a close second for me.

Why was that wagon a close second? I can understand being demotivated and I am trying to work with people to fix that but if you have a first read and a second read then explain why.

And if a wagon is dying on a wagon you think is scum you should be explaining why.

idk what you mean by a first read? or a second?

You obviously have enough of a read of the game state to have a priority in player lynches

You said so yourself when moving to WT. Therefore I would expect you to post reasons why you think that slot is scum other than just they are your second choice.

First read = top scumread in that context.

I didn't like a lot of WT's posts. I didn't like more of expedience's posts. I didn't like Titus's early game with House, nor did I like her trying to get into setup spec with luna. Right now Expe > WT > Titus, but I will change my vote according to the votecounts which on that note I will check to make sure that WT is in fact the leading wagon of 3.

[No Retreat]

there's this but I would think it would just be flavor

*shrugz*

I think every game I've ever played in the mod makes a flavor post that has no bearing on the game whatsoever. I think 5 factions sounds pretty good, we know there are atleast 3 so 2 more is not a stretch but does it really matter how many factions there are?

I had also (jokingly) brought up the 5 factions in the mastin post thing earlier so I'm not sure how you think I was both aware about it and doubting it.

but if you think I was doubt casting

You need to be really concerned about this then.

Well there's guaranteed to be scum, cult and human. We don't know if there's a 4th, but you seem pretty sure about it - why?

[Nosferatu]

yeah I thought so.

[No Retreat]

????

[Tim]

Copper, since you're here...thoughts on KC? Specifically regarding what I asked MathBlade about on this page?

I'm just going to steal this.

It's actually really concerning. I checked myself to see if there was ever a time Kuroi was mentioned by Celt and in what context. And there was never a single one. I suppose it could be possible that Kuroi being a scum read was one of those internal reads that you sort of hold to yourself, but even if so, Celt did not correct what looks like an inconsistency when it was directly pointed out. So yeah, it seems to me she muddled her (fake) reads

[RAM]

No Retreat, Nosferatu: 2852/2854?

-Cerb

Pedit: thanks Tim. No stealing required, it's aimed at everyone. I usually sorta muddle along through D1 cause it's difficult to find things that I can't as easily explain as town behavior as I can call them scum behaviors, but this inconsistency is a problem for me.

[Tim]

scum

Stormblade (Albert B. Rampage + Errantparabola + Nahdia)
Luna Fox

and everyone else is null or I don't remember anything they've done

Also I know this is from a while back, but no retreats list keeps popping up and I've realized that these two together here is sus to me if he was following the game so far.

[Cephrir]

@pages of KC pushing a 100% scumteam

I don't really think the 5 factions things in the op flavor really has anything to do with the factions in this game.

Your faction is your wincon. They are not public information.

^^ This is from Mastin's setup posts.

You sure about that?

yes I know that, not really seeing where you are getting 5 factions from that though.

Yet a fifth faction

there's this but I would think it would just be flavor

.....

*bangs head against wall*

Seriously? Do you think that the moderator would tell us that faction = win con and then have number of wincon a be flavor?

Like what you are saying is fifth faction =flavor, faction = wincon, using the substitution property one gets fifth wincon = flavor. Wincon is never flavor.

No retreat pretty much has to be town for this derp tell. Would be shocked if they were scum.

I'm not positive how many factions there are. I was assuming 5 but I don't think it really merits thought right now.

@whatever RAM is talking about

I need to figure out what youre talking about

@ WT being the biggest wagon now

VOTE: WT

[Titus]

Copper, since you're here...thoughts on KC? Specifically regarding what I asked MathBlade about on this page?

I'm just going to steal this.

It's actually really concerning. I checked myself to see if there was ever a time Kuroi was mentioned by Celt and in what context. And there was never a single one. I suppose it could be possible that Kuroi being a scum read was one of those internal reads that you sort of hold to yourself, but even if so, Celt did not correct what looks like an inconsistency when it was directly pointed out. So yeah, it seems to me she muddled her (fake) reads

titcr.

[RAM]

Just read 2852 and 2854 Ceph.

-Cerb

Pedit: what does that mean Titus? :/

[No Retreat]

Why were you assuming 5 factions?

@RAM I'm already scumreading Celt but I will say that I've but thinking one thing and mistyped. I did it in this game when talking about Almost but typed PV.

[Titus]

Just read 2852 and 2854 Ceph.

-Cerb

Pedit: what does that mean Titus? :/

Titcr means "this is the credited response". It's saying I agree but stronger that almost everyone should agree.

Kuroi plus Klingon if either is scum is very likely. I will be on whichever is bigger.