Gistou (Over!)

[Salt Squad]

We want scum to cross kill not kill townies tho.

[dramonic]

Don't lose hope rb, after this whole shitshow is over we can build ourselves a nice cottage in the mountains and live a quiet life of leasure.

@Toog: You've made yourself negative utility to every faction including your own. GJ champ.

[rb]

Please for the love of whatever the fuck everyone loves, can we stop discussing roles and scum strategy?

Like please? Pretty please? With cherries on top?

[Toogeloo]

@Toog: You've made yourself negative utility to every faction including your own. GJ champ.

Explain. If I get roleblocked or killed, I've successfully fulfilled my roles objective, so I'd like to understand why you think I'm negative utility.

[A Song of Ice and Fire]

Cult would never recruit me now, I've made too big of a target of myself.

Mafia will want me dead just in case.
Town will want me dead just in case.
I want to die "on purpose" at night.
I've also stated that if I am alive at end game, I need to die.

None of those scream "recruit that guy," to me.

after all the shitty "not out any info" alarms the whole day long you just come out and full claimed for us for what?

I never said anything about "we shouldn't out info," other players do that. If you know me, you know I love claims since they give info to work with. I would say I've partially claimed, fully claimed, or at least breadcrumbed in almost every game I've ever played.

by outing oursleves we're not giving any info to town to work with , we will just give scum a clear map of what the shit is the game like. no mod will let his/her scum team get outed in a massclaim.

like you claim x , y hint at z , a point at b , c out d and the scum will already know what is half of the game state and how they must plan their fucking night actions.

what info is your claim giving us beside two confirmable details?

~Ice

[KuroiXHF]

And as I've said before, I am catching up. Cephrir is scum reading everyone he wants to, but he's not scum hunting.

cephir was my earliest prob town who I put in null when I saw he is not getting anywhere with his reads and is just testing the ground and he is still there.

thats not related to what I felt about how you appeased to him.

~Ice

How does anything I've said even appear to be appeasing to Cephrir?

[dramonic]

Not gonna draw you a picture Toog.

[A Song of Ice and Fire]

How does anything I've said even appear to be appeasing to Cephrir?

appeasing is not the correct word. it felt engaging with the knowledge he knows your town.

~Ice

[Toogeloo]

The whole, "protect your role with your life" thing is far too passive in a game of this size with as many mechanics as it has. If scum have fake claims, then they probably know about the Individual Humans. Scum already have more information to work with in general. Region and Location I've given have nothing to do with my role, but maybe they have something to do with someone else's role. If that is a positive amount of information for them, then it's a boon. If it's negative for myself, it's still a boon because of my role.

I gave this a lot of thought, trust me. I guarantee you all that there was more to gain from my flavor claim than there was to lose.

Not gonna draw you a picture Toog.

Mom take away your crayons?

[Toogeloo]

I'll tell you what, if town loses solely on the basis of my claim, I will retire from mafia forever.

[dramonic]

Unfortunately that's pretty subjective.

[A Song of Ice and Fire]

I'll tell you what, if town loses solely on the basis of my claim, I will retire from mafia forever.

are you kidding me

[A Song of Ice and Fire]

How does anything I've said even appear to be appeasing to Cephrir?

appeasing is not the correct word. it felt engaging with the knowledge he knows your town.

~Ice

I meant you know he is town :/ (by that I mean you really think he is scumreading you and not framing you)

fucking pronouns

~Ice

[KuroiXHF]

How does anything I've said even appear to be appeasing to Cephrir?

appeasing is not the correct word. it felt engaging with the knowledge he knows your town.

~Ice

You think that Cephrir knows I'm town?
Do you think I'm town?

Preview Edit: So you think that I know Cephrir is town?

[KuroiXHF]

(Sorry about the double posting.)

<<< That's what mods are for. (And THIS is why it sometimes takes me forever to read everything. Have to make sure the doubles are identical before I delete one.) >>>

[Titus]

@Toog, what the fuck man?

I need vodka.

[Wake1]

I'm close to revealing my flavor details for the sake of interest. None of it has bearing on alignment, and if anything players will change a bit in revelation of the news.

[A Song of Ice and Fire]

I hate these double postings as well sorry everyone not intentional

@kuroi can you read the post I explained what I meant there when I said I think "this is a scum claim" or your just shitting me right now?

I accused you that you know he is not framing you. that means your eaither from other factions as scum or he is town and your scum. he is town in the opinion of scum you.

~Ice

[Toogeloo]

Unfortunately that's pretty subjective.

Stop trying to be a mafia purist and understand that different mentalities play this game. Town needs info, it craves it, and that info not only comes from reads, but from gaining insight as to overall setup picture as well, which in this particular game screams as a necessity. One claim from a not so important role isn't going to be the nail in the coffin. I didn't claim cop or doctor, hell I didn't claim anything other than flavor.


Now the question becomes, with this information, are you going to just mope around and berate my play, or are you going to do something constructive with it?

[KuroiXHF]

You've used "(the misppelled you're) just shitting me right now" when you were scum in House M.D. The exact phrase.

VOTE: A Song Of Ice And Fire

[KuroiXHF]

Yeah. This is your exact same play. Not just the phrase. This is all scum.

[rb]

I'm close to revealing my flavor details for the sake of interest. None of it has bearing on alignment, and if anything players will change a bit in revelation of the news.

LOL

[Toogeloo]

@Toog, what the fuck man?

Same question to you. I just gave you some info, so go drink your vodka and show me what it helps you with.

[rb]

Unfortunately that's pretty subjective.

Stop trying to be a mafia purist and understand that different mentalities play this game. Town needs info, it craves it, and that info not only comes from reads, but from gaining insight as to overall setup picture as well, which in this particular game screams as a necessity. One claim from a not so important role isn't going to be the nail in the coffin. I didn't claim cop or doctor, hell I didn't claim anything other than flavor.

Yes but it's also reasonable to assume in a game setup like this that there will be multiple flips at night and then we can claim, without making the game easier for cult/scum factions on Day 1.

FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

[Toogeloo]

So many god damn House avatars, and House isn't even playing the game anymore.