Gistou (Over!)

mastin2 · Post Post #3300 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 3:43 pm

trivia"Dividing the land is no reason to divide the people."

--Old Great Ridge saying.

Twenty-second Votecount

:

Wayward Thinker - 8 (dramonic, Tim, rb, Salt Squad, davesaz, Heartless, Nosferatu, BBMolla)

KuroiXHF - 6 (Toogeloo, DrippingGoofball, Luna Fox, Titus, A Song of Ice and Fire, Cephrir)

Klingoncelt - 3 (No Retreat, Wayward Thinker, RAM)
Expedience - 2 (Stormblade, Klingoncelt)
Heartless - 2 (Almost50, copper223)
Luna Fox - 1 (Lady Lambdadelta)
RAM - 1 (Expedience)
A Song of Ice and Fire - 1 (KuroiXHF)
Titus - 1 (Mathblade)

Not Voting - 3 (Franky, Wake88, TheWayItEnds)

With

28

alive, it takes

15

to lynch.

Day 1's deadline is Tuesday, August 2nd, @ 9:00 PM PST: (expired on 2016-08-02 21:00:00).
At deadline,

Wayward Thinker

would be lynched.

Extras

Spoiler: Changes from Last Votecount

Last votecount was post 3276, page 132.

Spoiler: Player Votecount History Day 1

Spoiler: Voting Chronology Day 1

Wake1 · Post Post #3301 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 3:43 pm

In post 3294, Wayward Thinker wrote: All your reasons suck fwiw.

That is not going to fly.

If you think his reasons suck you

had better

explain

why

you believe so.

Wake1 · Post Post #3302 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 3:46 pm

In post 3297, MathBlade wrote: God I am pissed Titus is so obviously scum I need a break from this thread.

(*Is this sincere anger...?*)

KuroiXHF · Post Post #3303 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 3:47 pm

In post 3301, Wake1 wrote:
In post 3294, Wayward Thinker wrote: All your reasons suck fwiw.
That is not going to fly.

If you think his reasons suck you
had better
explain
why
you believe so.

I whole-heartedly agree.

dramonic · Post Post #3304 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 3:48 pm

All aboard the train!~
Next stop, WT's trachea, where we will observe the mysterious art known as word swallowing!

Titus · Post Post #3305 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 3:52 pm

In post 3297, MathBlade wrote:
In post 3275, Titus wrote:
In post 3273, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2926, Titus wrote:I'm about a 7-9. Same as Kuroi and Wake.

That being said, if you feel better on Kuroi, stay there. I don't have a guilty. We're both voting scum.

While I'd hate a WT lynch, I cannot prove their town without greatly damaging the health of the game state. We have town mostly working together.
How would preventing a mislynch be bad for the game state? I'd rather iron out those grievances rather than mislynch. Do I expect 100% OMG almighty from the sky post the damn role PM in the thread levels of confirmed no. But reasons are good.
Because I am no better than everyone else. They can be right and I can be wrong. The game is going on long enough. Decisions have to be made.
Since when is Titus scared of being wrong? Like how is that a good reason to not post why you believe something or don't.

I don't pretend I have all the answers. I just contribute what I think. I have made mistakes reading posts along the way but I at least put my thoughts out there. That is how everyone synergies and we understand people.

God I am pissed Titus is so obviously scum I need a break from this thread.

You don't get it. Being scared of making an error is the only reason to fight a lynch all your townreads want. Lq seems to want out. It's a decision. Am I sooo confident that I am willing for 20 more pages to maybe get my way? No. I'm not. I'm fighting for a Kuroi flip, but at the end of the day, it's the end.

Much like fruit, threads can spoil if left out too long.

Wayward Thinker · Post Post #3306 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 3:58 pm

In post 3293, dramonic wrote:
In post 2094, dramonic wrote:WT's posts are full of ass-covering and preservation.
Also kuroi's fine and the people on that wagon are (for the most part) awful.

EDIT:

@Math: What makes me say Expe's mindset is town is that I've read his posts.
Town do plenty of naked votes.

@Nahdia: Please standby...

Speculation, nothing concrete at all.

In post 3293, dramonic wrote:
In post 2117, dramonic wrote:It can be for you too, I just don't expect you to fix your read.

EDIT: Plot fallacy.

More speculation. What I say I can prove, while what you say cannot.

In post 3293, dramonic wrote:
In post 2129, dramonic wrote:
In post 2118, Titus wrote:@dram can you give details on your Wt read and why he's self preserving? Also, can you talk about why the Kuroi wagon is shit?

His stance are weak as fuck and he ovejustifies his plays.

Kuroi wagon has WT, you, Toog, Luna, and beeboy on it. It could hardly have more flashing red lights saying "bad wagon". And that's ignoring the fact that his play isn't scummy anyways.

@Dave: I've given reason for why those quotes are town literally one post earlier.

Heartless is steadily burning through their towncred.

Well I think your stances suck and you are over justifying your own plays.
You don't know what a bad wagon is until we actually get flips..

In post 3293, dramonic wrote:
In post 2134, dramonic wrote:
In post 629, Wayward Thinker wrote:We think we will go with a vote on rb for now.
VOTE: RB

This vote is placed for a twofold reason. The first is the constant on the percentages. Planning ahead and running the numbers pings me as scummy
The second is the general sheeping of opinions.

~Suz

p-edit, goodness gracious everyone is posting so fast.

In post 2116, Wayward Thinker wrote:
In post 2110, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 961, Wayward Thinker wrote:
It just seems like Exp is too "out there" to be Scum IMO. I have the same problem sometimes.
You two are on the same scumteam, aren't you?
Nope, I'm not Scum. But just in case you think I am, I have never been that obvious as Scum to give a teammate such a strong town read. In short, I'm not stupid, I just know when a Town player is misunderstood because I've been there.
These are probably the two scummiest posts in the game, and it's not even a close one.

More subjective bias. You haven't played with me so you have no idea even if these things are Scummy for me. I gave my reasons for Scum reading rb, but you don't cover this.

In post 3293, dramonic wrote:
In post 2748, dramonic wrote:
In post 2748, Wayward Thinker wrote:
In post 2437, rb wrote:
In post 2433, RAM wrote:
In post 2430, rb wrote:@RAM

Cool. So let's get this straight.

When RAM says:

"I strongly townread X person"

RAM actually means:

"I don't see the reasoning for why X person is scum"

?

And you wonder why I have trouble interpreting your posts
when did i ever say i strongly townread either WT or kuroi.........

i have a mild VERY null mild townread on both of them
enough that i'm uncomfortable with their lynches

kuroi i also have a problem with his wagon which i have explained
WT i have already explained why i dont see them as scum like most people do

titus idk he hasn't said anything in PT
Okay but most people aren't seeing WT as scum as far as I can tell. I keep hearing people tell me he's Town but I can never get a decent reason out of them. So why is he NOT scum then, in your opinion because I honestly don't feel like the general consensus is that WT is scum and I'm tired of being told he's not scum without good reasons. His wagon also pretty much evaporated and went onto Kuroi which is why I'm townreading Kuroi and intensifying in scumread of WT.
This is pre-flip, which is bad.
This is also pre-flip, which makes it also bad

I say pre-flip is bad and you say I am doing pre-flip by saying pre-flip is bad.. Wat even?

In post 3293, dramonic wrote:
In post 3225, dramonic wrote:
In post 3228, Wayward Thinker wrote:
In post 3224, dramonic wrote:~Do not bring outside influence into a game~
~Threatening to replace out is a modkillable offense~
Who's bringing outside influence into the game?
I might just be replacing out for Raisins. Why do you have a problem with that?
You're threatening to replace out because of ingame reasons. Replacing out is an out-of-game mechanic.
You are using replacing out as a threat to change people's view on you.
You deserve a fate far worse than the wagon you're facing.

That is the crux of what I've highlighted/said irt WT.

And this is just not accurate at all. I basically said I would replace out of the game if I was insulted by being called VI.

You are either conf-biassing or are Scum, there is no inbetween.

dramonic · Post Post #3307 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:03 pm

Ladies and gentlemen, get your cameras, the creature is choking!

dramonic · Post Post #3308 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:04 pm

those counterpoints are literally "you have a read on me, that's not concrete!"

Luna Fox · Post Post #3309 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:06 pm

I wish i had Nacho's charisma right now

BBmolla · Post Post #3310 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:09 pm

In post 3290, MathBlade wrote:
In post 3281, BBmolla wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: WT

sheeping
Why are you sheeping here? Reads are awesome and important.

Because it's page 130 and I refuse to fucking continue doing anything until we get some flips.

There's too much info overload atm.

BBmolla · Post Post #3311 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:09 pm

Toog is town by the way

Titus · Post Post #3312 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:12 pm

In post 3309, Luna Fox wrote:I wish i had Nacho's charisma right now

Now, it's your turn to trust me. We have just as much as we need.

#cryptic #hopeful

dramonic · Post Post #3313 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:14 pm

#empty

dramonic · Post Post #3314 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:18 pm

Hey WT, next time you feel like posting something like 3306, you can just use this instead:

you're welcome

Toogeloo · Post Post #3315 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:29 pm

In post 3262, Wayward Thinker wrote:OK, but TlT doesn't quite have the same ring to it.

No, but it sure does look funny... (o)

Salt Squad · Post Post #3316 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:30 pm

ffs you guys stop posting so much
catching up now

-sc

Toogeloo · Post Post #3317 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:32 pm

Unvote

I'll be back when the town collective decides the day should be over and needs votes to get a lynch done. Until then, feel free to continue driving up the page count.

Luna Fox · Post Post #3318 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:34 pm

Titus Jul 11, 09:11am Jul 15, 10:12pm 0 days 0 hours 315
Luna Fox Jul 11, 09:42am Jul 15, 10:06pm 0 days 0 hours 299

Ooops

Salt Squad · Post Post #3319 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:50 pm

In post 2737, Salt Squad wrote:MathBlade is still town.
Dramonic is still town.
Titus is still town.
Wayward is still scum.

These last few pages where nice.

~Bee

In post 2738, Salt Squad wrote:Actually Titus may be scum with Wayward scratch the above.

~Bee

agree with all of this from bee

klingon looks like a shitty counterwagon to scum Kuroi and WT
like ffs I'm just skimming at this point, pick one of Kuroi and WT and lynch their ass, they're both scum

-sc

Wayward Thinker · Post Post #3320 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:52 pm

In post 3314, dramonic wrote:Hey WT, next time you feel like posting something like 3306, you can just use this instead:

you're welcome

Cute.

Salt Squad · Post Post #3321 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:00 pm

In post 2980, Titus wrote:
In post 2973, KuroiXHF wrote:
In post 2972, Titus wrote:@Cerb, we could vote Kuroi and just trust the vig to handle Klingon?
Why not the opposite?
VOTE: Kuroi

I was giving you a shot. I'm basically picking which townread to go with. Nero or Cerb.

town!titus wouldn't backtrack here

In post 3001, Toogeloo wrote:You know what, I'm actually just going to full claim all but my role itself. To be honest, if I die at night, I've done my job anyways, so I think the pros outweigh the cons here.

I belong to the Individual Human faction. I investigate as Northern Tribes for Region and Other for Location, but my wincon specifically says that I am of the Individual Humans and win when all threats to my faction are eliminated.
While my Region says Northern Tribes, that is the one and only time it's mentioned in my Role PM, and it doesn't suggest to me in any way shape or form that I am specifically grouped with them, in fact, my win con basically does the opposite by saying I am an individual.

I think this information will prove more useful out in the open.

toog is probably town but I highly doubt he'll still be town in a couple days lol

In post 3044, KuroiXHF wrote:You've used "(the misppelled you're) just shitting me right now" when you were scum in House M.D. The exact phrase.

VOTE: A Song Of Ice And Fire

ur still scum

In post 3136, Salt Squad wrote:I am growing apathetic about this game and I don't think Cakez or Heat are actually reading it >_>
Can we just quick lynch Wayward or something?

~Bee

i am reading it, just not too often

hang someone soon please, we have our vote on scum, if you don't put it down.

-sc

Titus · Post Post #3322 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:03 pm

@Luna, are you scumreading anyone on the wt wagon?

Luna Fox · Post Post #3323 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:09 pm

In post 3300, mastin2 wrote:Wayward Thinker - 8 (
dramonic
,
Tim
, rb,
Salt Squad
, davesaz,
Heartless
, Nosferatu,
BBMolla
)

There im coloring my townreads on the wagon.
I usually have a hard time scumreading people, which is why i usually operate by townhunting, making it hard to me to find accurate townreads in multiball, one of the reasons i singed here was to try to overcome that weakness but it isnt going very well so far ^^;;

Titus · Post Post #3324 (ISO) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:13 pm

In post 3323, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 3300, mastin2 wrote:Wayward Thinker - 8 (
dramonic
,
Tim
, rb,
Salt Squad
, davesaz,
Heartless
, Nosferatu,
BBMolla
)
There im coloring my townreads on the wagon.
I usually have a hard time scumreading people, which is why i usually operate by townhunting, making it hard to me to find accurate townreads in multiball, one of the reasons i singed here was to try to overcome that weakness but it isnt going very well so far ^^;;

Dave is the worst I feel about that wagon. Even then it's more ehh townie but not quite there.

In order to really lock things in, we need a flip. If there's no one really scummy there, we should move. We need information to move from. If Dram cannot get the numbers, we can move back.

What is the alternative? Fight for 30 pages to keep someone here who wants out? There's vigs to handle the Klingons and Kurois of this world.

How much town cohesion do we want to risk?