Gistou (Over!)

[rb]

Don't have time to read all this before I go but we have more than 10 days. Vote Titus please while I am away. I hope to come back to a Titus lynch

How come your read on WT has changed? Do you think Titus is more likely scum than Kuroi?

[Luna Fox]

so you think WT didn't scumhunt at all so far? what were they doing then in your preview. what is a catching up?

Catching up is replying to things that happened pages ago, and trying to get reads out of those.
He did say works better in real time interactions.

[A Song of Ice and Fire]

K I guess we have similar conclusion about what might be the reason he pings scum but not the same deduction from how much that revise it (from scum to being town)

I can't and won't call a slot town unless i see their acting towny. not seeing that from them.

~Ice

[Luna Fox]

You'll do a lot of mislynches if you keep thinking that only scum wont act townie in your standards then.
There are more ways to be town, than just not making shit cases or bad reads.
Heck, if anything town's more prone to being stupid than scum.

[Tim]

so you think WT didn't scumhunt at all so far? what were they doing then in your preview. what is a catching up?

Catching up is replying to things that happened pages ago, and trying to get reads out of those.
He did say works better in real time interactions.

He never referenced me in his catchups once and I had the most material that he could argue against (if he so chose)

[Luna Fox]

so you think WT didn't scumhunt at all so far? what were they doing then in your preview. what is a catching up?

Catching up is replying to things that happened pages ago, and trying to get reads out of those.
He did say works better in real time interactions.

He never referenced me in his catchups once and I had the most material that he could argue against (if he so chose)

Have you been there when he's interacting in real time
(and even then that's quite a stretch with the ammount of people in this game)

[A Song of Ice and Fire]

You'll do a lot of mislynches if you keep thinking that only scum wont act townie in your standards then.
There are more ways to be town, than just not making shit cases or bad reads.
Heck, if anything town's more prone to being stupid than scum.

nah by keeping myself paranoid enough I won't let someone get credit for what they didn't done / deserve , keeping my eyes open to further slips if their scum.

I won't call not scummy town and I won't particpate in any not sorted weird townblock and won't approve any weird moonlogicy townreads. ever

~Ice

[Luna Fox]

You'll do a lot of mislynches if you keep thinking that only scum wont act townie in your standards then.
There are more ways to be town, than just not making shit cases or bad reads.
Heck, if anything town's more prone to being stupid than scum.

nah by keeping myself paranoid enough I won't let someone get credit for what they didn't done / deserve , keeping my eyes open to further slips if their scum.

I won't call not scummy town and I won't particpate in any not sorted weird townblock and won't approve any weird moonlogicy townreads. ever

~Ice

If you want logic
Why does Scum!WT Vote Klingy and keep pushing for her lynch instead of Kuroi?
He's obviously not playing for survival.

[rb]

You'll do a lot of mislynches if you keep thinking that only scum wont act townie in your standards then.
There are more ways to be town, than just not making shit cases or bad reads.
Heck, if anything town's more prone to being stupid than scum.

nah by keeping myself paranoid enough I won't let someone get credit for what they didn't done / deserve , keeping my eyes open to further slips if their scum.

I won't call not scummy town and I won't particpate in any not sorted weird townblock and won't approve any weird moonlogicy townreads. ever

~Ice

If you want logic
Why does Scum!WT Vote Klingy and keep pushing for her lynch instead of Kuroi?
He's obviously not playing for survival.

I don't see how that's alignment indicative.

[Luna Fox]

You'll do a lot of mislynches if you keep thinking that only scum wont act townie in your standards then.
There are more ways to be town, than just not making shit cases or bad reads.
Heck, if anything town's more prone to being stupid than scum.

nah by keeping myself paranoid enough I won't let someone get credit for what they didn't done / deserve , keeping my eyes open to further slips if their scum.

I won't call not scummy town and I won't particpate in any not sorted weird townblock and won't approve any weird moonlogicy townreads. ever

~Ice

If you want logic
Why does Scum!WT Vote Klingy and keep pushing for her lynch instead of Kuroi?
He's obviously not playing for survival.

I don't see how that's alignment indicative.

Because scum are more survivalistic than town, they would have no problem trying to get Kuroi lynching with the ammount of support there, and it's the only other wagon that has any legs right now, yet they chose to stay on Klingy.

So since it's not alignment indicative, tell me what's the scum motivation behind such action, because i see none.

[A Song of Ice and Fire]

actually WT was the one who started the whole kuroi wagon and the way they omgused klingon instead of pushing the hetaed wagon after kuroi attacked me instead of attacking WT is making me feel really confused here.

not sure if its just a legit hydra head differences or just a tactic for distant themselves from the lynch flip (like what scum do to get away with murder) assuming its multiball cuase I'm positive kuroi is scum

was it suz who voted kling or LQ ?

~Ice

[Luna Fox]

was it suz who voted kling or LQ ?

LQ mentioned Suz hasnt been here since Monday, so i assume it was him.

[Tim]

Kuroi will always be available to be voted. I guarantee you that if the other half of the playerlist that isn't voting Kuroi decided to do so in short order for whatever reason (or none at all) nobody would blink an eye. That and Celt isn't exactly a vote that people would condemn necessarily

[A Song of Ice and Fire]

I think WT has a chance to be town

I want kuroi dead cuase he is just obviously scum

I explained both

now fight me or vote kuroi

~Ice

[DrippingGoofball]

I want kuroi dead cuase he is just obviously scum

So true

[A Song of Ice and Fire]

rb you never commented about anything I've said in this game or anything about my slot that I can recall of

why is that ? whats your read on me ? and what do you think about my recent detailed posts about kuroi / WT ?

~Ice

[Stormblade]

Pretty big scumread on RAM. Their votes in particular leave a bad taste in my mouth. Cerb head doesn't feel at all like the person I just played with in Bloodborne.

-Nahdia

[Salt Squad]

You're a cruel bastard.

I'm sure I am. I don't really like how you are name calling here to gain sympathy like I'm somehow being mean to you for suggesting that you are scum. Its mafia, I'm scumhunting. Like I said earlier maybe you going V/LA and being mafia were just a coincidence. I don't know whats gong on, if you are sick or whatever is going on I hope you feel better or the problem fixes itself.

However

I have serious reservation about your slot. You sorta cherry picked my review of your iso. I don't understand why you pushed for an Exe lynch with the reasoning that it would help you read Titus when you were already town reading her. And I'm not sure why you didn't address this unless you are flat out ignoring things and hoping they go away.

Your post about me not listing WT as a town or scum read is balls and totes ignores the fact that said list did NOT contain several players so it feels off and scummy.

I'm not trying to gain anyone's sympathy.

If you knew anything about my private life you'd know better than to say that.

Speaking of private life, I checked everywhere that I could think of, there's no rule that compels players to disclose why they're V/LA. That you're so interested in my whereabouts, I have to think you're stalking.

You're either stalking me or accusing me of cheating.

Both offenses can get you banned.

You should be policy lynched at the very least, Creep.

Beyond that I don't give a flying fuck, a rat's ass, or a tinker's damn how you feel about my slot.

VOTE: No Retreat

this post is disgusting

You say KC was connecting Expe and Kuroi. She wasn't. Instead of correcting you, she agrees that at one point she was connecting those two, but has since changed her mind.

That inconsistency /contradiction concerns me....like Expe said, it's as though she's not actually holding these reads, and so just went with what you said, even though it wasn't true.

-Cern

Would it help if I listed everyone that pinged my scumdar?
A Song of Ice and Fire
BBMolla
Dramonic
Expedience
Kuroi
No Retreat
Titus
Wayward Thinker

this is just an OMGUS list
Klingon into the scum pile

I'm making an executive decision for our hydra
VOTE: Kuroi
WT has a lot of iffy posts while all of Kuroi's posts are just transparently scum. I want to see WT copped/vigged/whatevered overnight.

-sc

[Luna Fox]

whatevered

This word made me laugh XD

[Cephrir]

I am skimming.

{Heartless, Math, Luna, Expedience, Molla}
{Titus, dram, Salt, Tim, ASOIAF, RAM, LLD, rb, Toog}
{Almost, Storm, copper, No Retreat, TWIE, DGB}
{KC, Nosferatu, WT, dave, Wake, Franky}
{Kuroi}

Expedience & Wake please. Same as above, por favor.

Expedience is town because a lot of his posts show genuine emotion. Some of his thought processes are batty in a way that reminds me of way back when Titus was new and I townread her successfully for moonlogic. I think he really believes what he's saying. It IS multiball but he's also taken a lot of unpopular actions he didn't need to take that could have gotten him lynched.

Wake is scum because of posts Cane + Able made in the first 40 pages or so that I had issues with, as well as RAM's argument re: him missing a claim by his biggest scumread, iirc? I'm pretty sure there was something else but I cannot be fucked to find it right now.

VOTE: Kuroi

I should probably stop just trying to end the day now that it looks like we may actually get a lynch this century. This is scum and I want it out of my life.

[copper223]

Feels good to finally be back on a keyboard.

Upon reflection, although I am pretty certain that Heartless is scum (the latest posting from TTH seems more indicative of her town game but they pulled the same switcheroo in that jk9++) I agree with expe. that it's pointless to beat the horse to death (tried that in a few games but it doesn't always work and I don't have the cred with this particular playlist yet), instead I'll give you a full read list, hopefully if I do a good job reading the rest of the townies they will realized I might be correct with my scum-reads as well.

[rb]

rb you never commented about anything I've said in this game or anything about my slot that I can recall of

why is that ? whats your read on me ? and what do you think about my recent detailed posts about kuroi / WT ?

~Ice

Which detailed posts do you want me to look at? I've read most of them and nothing you do really screams scum or town to me but overall I'd say I'm reading you as null-scum. Tbh if WT flipped Town and Kuroi flipped scum I'd be picking you as scum and that these posts are just looking for towncred, since your case on Kuroi is just repeating what's already been said 27 times per page and I'm not giving anyone town-points for doing that at this stage of the game, and the townread on WT is just the same shit Luna's saying - but feel free to correct me.

So without any flips and VCA I'm not sure which way I'd lean on you but if I had a gun to my head it'd be null-scum.

I don't feel like there's much strength in what you're saying nor do I see much evidence that you're putting out original content. There's a lot of slots I still haven't interacted with so far because as I mentioned in 1792 I'm pretty certain that we've found at least one scum in WT/Expedience because their interactions are just scum all over. On top of that I think Kuroi isn't a bad choice either. I initially was frustrated because I felt like Kuroi was just a counter-wagon and I didn't think his play had so far been scummy enough to warrant such a huge wagon, but his response since being pressured has been absolutely terrible.

So there's 3 lynches that I'm happy with, this thread has reached to almost page 150. Even if it's Day 1, it's not a normal Day 1. I feel like there's more than enough interactions to do a good VCA and get a lot of information from Night 1 flips.

But if people specifically want my opinions on something, I'm happy to give.

[rb]

Pretty big scumread on RAM. Their votes in particular leave a bad taste in my mouth. Cerb head doesn't feel at all like the person I just played with in Bloodborne.

-Nahdia

Are you still scum-reading both WT + Expedience?

[No Retreat]

1- Why is dramonic town to you?
2- Why is Klingoncelt scum?

Dramtown is mainly gut/poe. I routinely find myself nodding and agreeing with his posts. Could he be scum that's pushing hard for WT lynch? maybe but its not really a rabbit hole I want to go down yet. There are a TON of slots I'd lynch before him so he's way down my totem pole.

I think Celt is scum for he switch on Titus and she's been asked about it 3 or 4 times and she hasn't responded to it. The only some what viable answer she could give is that maths post made her rethink but I think that's buddying. I think her pushback against me is laughable.

I don't see how that's alignment indicative.

"Everyone stop unvoting WT!"

[Titus]

@Stormblade, why are you not voting WT or Kuroi?