Gistou (Over!)

[Cephrir]

I have changed from skimming to skipping.

[Luna Fox]

Oh i misunderstood then.

The funny thing is that i was trying to look for the post that gave me the misunderstanding, and i could've sworn rb at some point said that they were reading song as null instead of null scum somewhere near a page top, but i can no longer find it, so i guess i probably read someone else and thought it was rb for some reason.

[Salt Squad]

Luna I haven't really read the last 20-30 pages of this game should I go back and read them or did nothing happen?

~Bee

[Luna Fox]

Luna I haven't really read the last 20-30 pages of this game should I go back and read them or did nothing happen?

~Bee

your other head voted Kuroi.
I made a defense of WT.

My guess is that both of those things are important to you.

[dramonic]

do you see any value in this rb/luna/fa interaction?

no, but that doesn't compel me to snark at it

If I don't snark every few hours I spontaneously combust

@Bee: We've experienced a shift from voting the scum to voting the asshole.

[Salt Squad]

I mean they are both scum tho so I am fine either way. I will wait for Heat before I plan on moving my vote so me and Cakez don't just end up moving our vote each time we post and I just woke up so I will read Luna's WT defense later.

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

Hydraing is hard man.

~Bee

[Luna Fox]

Well my defense shortened is that WT's playstyle isnt being survivalistic despite all the scumreads on him, also the gut town i felt with his frustration.
For the longer version you'll eventually find it in my posts in the thread.

[davesaz]

What did this mean if it's not an OMGUS?

he made a shitty case on me after i said he is scumread of me. you may call it an omgus of omgus then?

I defended myself proved why he is lieing and why that makes him scum.

~Ice

Ah, that makes sense. <Part of> your case on him is your defense of his case on you. I don't think it's AI for you to do that, unless your counter is equally shady. Either alignment would try to take apart a bad case.

If his counterattack is indeed based on twisting things then that would be scummy.

[davesaz]

If I don't snark every few hours I spontaneously combust

Yeah, that's the Dram I know.

[Toogeloo]

I have changed from skimming to skipping.

Been here for a while.

Vote: Kuroi

Please tell me a hammer is close.

[copper223]

@Wake
Who are the 4 scum reads that House posted in the hydra PT?

[Titus]

Doing VC now. It will come with a speech that I implore everyone to read.

[copper223]

I have mixed feelings about C+A but leaning

null scum

cause House's focus seemed to be mostly about setup breaking and his whole interaction with Titus makes little sense, first he calls her town that will never change her mind once she gets a read (which I mostly agree with), but then spends his time trying to make her change her read (?) and after that fails (despite Titus's focus being on other players mostly) goes ahead and votes her, the reason given is not that bad though.

The focus on the 4 lurkers makes sense but is also pretty safe, I'll add more if wake gives me those names.

[copper223]

Cephrir is likely town aligned.

[copper223]

A50 is likely town and his interaction with Heartless is just another reason for why they are likely scum, the connection you are seeing between me and heartless is me trying to find out what alignment they are, playing around with my teammates like that is not something I do as scum.

I'll take a break to let others posts, at the end I will collect all the reads in a spoiler post.

[Titus]

Wayward Thinker - 7 (dramonic, Tim, rb, davesaz, Nosferatu, BBMolla, Klingon)
KuroiXHF - 10 (DrippingGoofball, Luna Fox, Titus, A Song of Ice and Fire, Cephrir, Expedience, ram, ss hydra, heartless, toog)

Order not precise as I know Ceph is in the wrong place but fuck it headcount good.

Speech:

The posting in this thread is excluding many people. The catchup method where you quote posts as you catch up makes the problem worse. Combine that with people asking for quotes of things resolvable by search because lazy only makes the problem worse.

Furthermore, everyone seems to be talking

at

each other, rather than

to

each other.

As yourself a few questions. What am I hoping to solve or respond to? If the answer is nothing, you don't need to post. We don't need snarking, gloating, or long protracted walls on people not likely to be lynched.

How does my post promote town health? If the answer is not at all, look if you really need to post it.

If you are not townreading one of Kuroi/WT, it's time to vote them. If you're townreading an entire wagon, consider moving. Is it worth bickering with townreads for 30 pages that people are rapidly tuning out?

Sure. There's a chance we're wrong. With cult and another recruiting faction(s), there's likely very little scum at the moment. Look to agree, not be hero town.

Ask how I can help others, not how they can help me.

[copper223]

Cephrir is likely town aligned.

After reading a50 I need to think about this more.

[davesaz]

Wow folks, no need to take Titus that literally. 2 hours of dead stop? Not that I'm complaining about tapping the brakes, but no need for a panic stop.

I'm willing to switch in the interest of progress, given I'm scumreading both of them.
VOTE: Kuroi

Titus, I think you might have been the one who called my WT post "side-eye". What did that mean? I had a reason to vote them, which may not be the best reason ever given but it's genuine.

[dramonic]

ITT Titus wants me to die.
You guys are wagon jumping like we're 30 minutes to deadline.

[Almost50]

I have a null read on WT & a Town read on Kuroi, so I'm not likely to vote either of them.

why?

~Ice

WT: I'm unable to decipher their talk so far, and -being in a large- I've decided to shelf the hard reads for later when I do have some links and leads.

Kuroi: Mostly a tonal thing. I do sincerely think he IS doing the work, and although we might not agree on several reads I get the feeling that he does believe in his reasoning (i.e. Not just bullshitting to stick dirt on someone). For instance, his reasoning for scum reading you is too silly for scum to be trying to push. I feel it comes from some a town aligned player who believes they've got this "ping" inside their head against your slot and is desperately trying to prove it (one of MY problems, so I can sympathize).

[mastin2]

@Mastin: how long until Franky gets prodded?

-Cerb

*cough*

<<< Franky is being prodded. >>>

Now if your question is instead, how long until he's replaced?

That would be this: (expired on 2016-07-17 04:48:13).

[Almost50]

1- Why is Heartless town to you?
2- Why is Kuroi scum?
(In 3-4 sentences of your own composition, please)

Heartless is town because half gut, half because i dont think this is anti's scum game, so i guess full gut?
Kuroi is scum because he's not paying attention to what his strongest scumread is doing.

1- Because he already claimed something similar to you, duh! If he's not in your PT he's highly suspicious. Do you think we have TWO non-human groups who are both aligned with town?

2- Same reason, but in reverse. If there are only 4 of you then you only have 1 scum in the PT. If you have like 6 you may have 2 or even 3 (of different factions though). It would make it easier for me to pick the odd one out if there were only 4 of you than it would be to pick the 2/3 out of 6/7/8 (although I feel like I'm stretching it with 8 in one PT I think there should be 4-6 in there).

Sorry, but i'll take the liberty of staying quiet right now.

my neighborhood already hate me for outing too much information >.<

That certainly gave me nothing new, but thanks for responding anyway!

[Luna Fox]

You're welcome! ^_^

[Almost50]

@Almost, we're at stallsville - needs a flip. Kuroi is resorting to mudslinging and flail. WT is showing more resignation. Just saying I don't wanna is not good enough. Why do you townread WT and Kuroi?

You know how I beat you in open 627. I flailed hard and no one would hammer me. Town wouldn't talk or compromise. Everyone had their lynch and then it was hurrrdurr speed wagon. Don't repeat what you did before. We need flips.

I'm currently working on it from a different angle and trying to get some conversation with everyone (but in turns, so I could actually get a grasp).