Gistou (Over!)

[Salt Squad]

/confirming we're here to rek

-SC

[Salt Squad]

Tim's push on Molla is pretty terrible
I'm pretty sure Molla's claim there is completely NAI

-SC

[Salt Squad]

That discussion wrt BBMolla has been overblown I agree, why do we want to speculate on something so silly?

Hi scum

Tim's push on Molla is pretty terrible
I'm pretty sure Molla's claim there is completely NAI

I am agreed with the second sentence. that was an antitwn play. and I learnt the hard way that an anti town play is not definitely scummy

not fully agreed with the first one. i liked him questioning it. that was a retarded antitown move - not for the probablity part though ; flavor stuff claiming is definietly bad in a specially in a role madness game - and I don't like bbmola reaction after the push.

~Ice

I mean Tim was pushing Molla as scum in 53 for the claiming. I don't mind them questioning it, but getting a scumread from that is ridiculous.

-SC

[Salt Squad]

Then what is worth discussing Ms. Fox?

-SC

[Salt Squad]

What do you think of it then? You're just saying "this isn't worth discussing, that isn't worth discussing, we should discuss this".
Ok, are you actually going to give opinions on anything or just keep shooting down discussion topics?

-SC

[Salt Squad]

I think that Tim's scum, and BBMolla's town.

What do you think about Expe and Song of Ice and Fire?

What do you think of it then? You're just saying "this isn't worth discussing, that isn't worth discussing, we should discuss this".
Ok, are you actually going to give opinions on anything or just keep shooting down discussion topics?

-SC

Also, how does it help you find scum, by calculating the probabilities of conversion? If you can answer that, then sure, continue discussing probabilities, otherwise i'll continue to intervene.

It doesn't help find scum but it's also not hurting anything by doing it and could potentially result in useful posts.

P-edit

Let's just all agree to immediately lynch Luna Fox once the day starts so people don't struggle to keep up with all the hydra posts.

This is scum or anti-town at best, how does it help you to immediately lynch me even if you think im scum, before i even get started scumhunting and getting information out?

No yeah this is just scum
-SC

[Salt Squad]

What do you think about Expe and Song of Ice and Fire?

what do

you

think of us ?

~Ice

Nulltown
I don't think most of what you've said has been AI but the stuff that didn't involve Expe looked townish.

-SC

[Salt Squad]

What do you think about Expe and Song of Ice and Fire?

what do

you

think of us ?

~Ice

Nulltown
I don't think most of what you've said has been AI but the stuff that didn't involve Expe looked townish.

-SC

us was me and expe. I'm more curious about your expe read

~Ice

Oh I thought you were referring to your hydra with us
I think he's town, I don't think he'd be this engaged and aggressive as scum

-SC

[Salt Squad]

shutting scumhunting by overfocusing on probability discussion.

Clearly not a thing.

^
P-edit: there was a blitz he was scum in where he was very out of it and not really interacting with anyone iirc, can't remember the exact game
-SC

[Salt Squad]

Ceph why is Tim town?

-sc

[Salt Squad]

Luna are you an alt?

-sc

[Salt Squad]

Luna are you an alt?

-sc

No (why does this question come up every game)

Yes u are don't lie.

unless you changed this account to ur main instead of ur other one.

[Salt Squad]

dw i know it isnt jeanne

[Salt Squad]

Good morning everyone o/

I will read this pregame thread in a bit.
Luna we are buddies from the pregame btw.

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

/regrets

pls dram u get to play with me o/ no regrets allowed

[Salt Squad]

I would prefer if the discussion was "What's Luna's alignment" instead of "Who's Luna".

the answer to this question is 99% scum

I get a slight town read from Luna, 58% is the exact percentage. I give Exped a 33% chance of being Town. That means that there's a 0.58 x 0.33 = 19% chance they're both Town. I think Luna and Exped are different alignments.

Since I give Exped a 67% chance of scum, there's a 0.67 x 0.91 = 61% chance that Ceph is Town.

I sure do love me some percentages.

are these legit reads?

-sc

[Salt Squad]

the answer to this question is 99% scum

Hydra dissonance intensifies.

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

Luna, Tim, BBMolla and Ceph are all town aligned players.

That is all for today folks o/

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

I also am starting to get a gut feeling Song of Ice and Fire is town as well.

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

If Salthydra is scum, how many of the named Town would you think were also scum? If any?

Probably around 3.

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

If Salthydra is scum, how many of the named Town would you think were also scum? If any?

Probably around 3.

~Bee

There's a 59% chance that you'd actually name 1 but say this to get us to lynch 3 if you were ScumSaltSquad.

You got me and my foiled my master plan :'(

[Salt Squad]

I would prefer if the discussion was "What's Luna's alignment" instead of "Who's Luna".

the answer to this question is 99% scum

I get a slight town read from Luna, 58% is the exact percentage. I give Exped a 33% chance of being Town. That means that there's a 0.58 x 0.33 = 19% chance they're both Town. I think Luna and Exped are different alignments.

Since I give Exped a 67% chance of scum, there's a 0.67 x 0.91 = 61% chance that Ceph is Town.

I sure do love me some percentages.

are these legit reads?

-sc

I'm mostly just trying to give Luna an aneurysm by talking about percentages as much as possible, but put in the plainest terms:

- Luna on slight town read for trying to direct discussion to something useful (I understand her point)
- Exped on slight scum read (he's pushing her about it for reason I don't quite understand, plus he's possibly buddying me)
- Ceph on slight town read (the alts altiness thing just seems like town motivated to me)

There's a 63% chance I talk about percentages in every post I remember to talk about percentages in for the rest of the game.

this is probably town, although I disagree with the Luna and Expe reads
Ceph goes into the town pool as well for his reaction to this

-SC

[Salt Squad]

I can't wait to be able to vote people ^__^

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

actually frozen i think ive read u correctly in every game but pokemon ep 3+4, but beeboy read UTL correctly so we still lynched ur slot :>

[Salt Squad]

I can't wait to be able to vote people ^__^

~Bee

who you wanna vote?

lets talk about our reads.

~Ice

Town
Cephir - Town posting and paranoia of town reads that are on him (classic mutliball town tell)
BBmolla - Scum doesn't randomly distribute potentially incriminating information in the first few posts of the game when they don't know if the will get town read.
Luna - Gut, I don't think Luna would be this active as scum because she isn't confident in herself as a player.
Fire and Ice - Fire is legit scum hunting using pretty good reasoning which isn't something I expect from a scum!firebringer.
Tim - Has good reads so gut.


Scum
Wayward Thinkers - Random information fishing early on to try and look useful was pretty sketchy and I don't think anything that was asked will lead to anything.
Expedience - Has lots of big posts but hasn't left any sort of impact on me which gives me horrible gut feelings.



Wayward Thinkers right now since Expedience is just gut.

Who do you want to vote and do you have questions about my thoughts on other players?


~Bee

[Salt Squad]

actually frozen i think ive read u correctly in every game but pokemon ep 3+4, but beeboy read UTL correctly so we still lynched ur slot :>

I don't recall getting lynched.

was I already replaced?

~Ice

yeah u were already replaced when ur slot got lynched

[Salt Squad]

Fire and Ice - Fire is legit scum hunting using pretty good reasoning which isn't something I expect from a scum!firebringer.

This was a copy paste from my note pad I am using for this game.

I expect more trolling from scum!bringer pretty much. I didn't really read my reads before posting them I just copy pasted them LOL.

[Salt Squad]

Fire and Ice - Fire is legit scum hunting using pretty good reasoning which isn't something I expect from a scum!firebringer.

Wouldn't it be the opposite?
And even then, scum scumhunts in multiball you know.

I know scum hunt in multiball but I liked Firebringers reasoning was pretty thoughtful, looking for town tells not scum tells and Fire bringer trolls as scum more.

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

that's one of the weirdest reasons i've ever been townread but okay

Town post because the person is weirded out, and only people who are weirded out are town.

~Fire Song

This is the only post remotely close to scumhunting i've seen from fire.
Where are you getting your read from.
Just this?

I think that looking for town tells over scum tells is a huge town tell in multiball since scum are prioritizing finding the other scum or getting control over the game by driving lynches because there is another faction fighting for that control.

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

beeboy your reason for townreading Fire sucks in my pov .

whats your read on me?

~Ice

I stand by my read because I do believe actively seeking out town tells is a townie thing to do. Yes scum, scum hunt in multiball but that only means that scum will also be looking for scum, seeking out town tells is an entire different story. Ignore all my shitty meta about Firebringer, the read on Cephir wasn't surface level and I don't think it was just a scum jerk reaction cashing out on a post that was clearly town to look relevant to the game.

I haven't disliked anything you have done Frozen but I am not confident in my ability to read you because I have seen you play as scum I think 4 time or some large number and I town read you every time so I think I need to figure out a different method to read you.
~Bee

[Salt Squad]

Why are you so concerned with me town reading Fire and Ice?
Also did you dislike my explanation is 262?

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

You guys are going to give me a twitch reading the posts with percentages in them.

Salt(Bee), I think that this game is not quite as simple as town tells and not town tells because of the multiball angle. The rules seem to suggest that it is not so black and white.

i'm envious that so many of you can judge the Fire head of that hydra. I tend to be able to read frozen better because Frozen is straightforward in her thinking and drives what she believes in.

~Suz

Town tells and scum tells are still relevant just not all of them are.

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

Why are you so concerned with me town reading Fire and Ice?
Also did you dislike my explanation is 262?

~Bee

what the fuck r u talking about

You caught me as scum because I was concerned with people's town reads on other players without having a strong opinion on those players. I find it odd that you would be calling my town read on Fire bad when you share the same town read (I think). Like you are doing something you told me was scummy in previous game and that makes me feel incredibly wary of your alignment.

262: Is this explanation for my Fire town read bad?

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

where did i say i townread fire...?

Are you town reading the ice part of the hydra?

[Salt Squad]

fuck I am confusing myself

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

where did i say i townread fire...?

Are you town reading the ice part of the hydra?

no

Oops.

Why are you so concerned with me town reading Fire and Ice?
Also did you dislike my explanation is 262?

~Bee

what the fuck r u talking about

if you want to know what my issue is w ur "townreada" in general are its that they look thrown out there, not too well thought out, and theres too many of them (scum not wanting to make enemies)

I aggressively try and look for town aligned players and lynch the nontown players after that. That is just how I like to play mafia in many games.
I am setting a pace for the game that scum can't keep up with and it makes people's alignments more apparent as a result.

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

I am setting a pace for the game that scum can't keep up with and it makes people's alignments more apparent as a result.

that's a new one

Why would I bother lying about how I like to play mafia?
I think that if I aggressively have reads scum players will try and match that which isn't particularly easy to do. Or at the very least it generates discussion. Is my play style bad in your eyes or something?

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

Luna is town

[Salt Squad]

Titus you're townreading FA hydra because of her emotion solely?

-sc

[Salt Squad]

fite me lld

[Salt Squad]

Titus you're townreading FA hydra because of her emotion solely?

-sc

Yup. She's no LLD in terms of scumplay (sorry Frozen).

Wasn't she super emotional in like the Steven Universe Prequel and other games as scum tho? What's the difference?
Like I get the townread there and agree but the reasoning behind it is weird.

-sc

[Salt Squad]

However, she has a markedly different tone in her scumgames. See NY 191. She just never quite feels town.

ok but didnt u townread her in denmark mafia?

[Salt Squad]

Titus you're townreading FA hydra because of her emotion solely?

-sc

Yup. She's no LLD in terms of scumplay (sorry Frozen).

Wasn't she super emotional in like the Steven Universe Prequel and other games as scum tho? What's the difference?
Like I get the townread there and agree but the reasoning behind it is weird.

-sc

I am not recalling SU the prequel. However, she has a markedly different tone in her scumgames. See NY 191. She just never quite feels town.

erm ok, I'll trust you on this for now

also cane + able are town, I recognize House's townposting here
-sc

[Salt Squad]

unsigned posts from us are by heat fyi, bee and I always sign

-SC

[Salt Squad]

Yeah that was Denmark. You were townread because you were charming. I lack that. And I caught scum. I did wind up nailing you though.

r u talking abt me or FA?

[Salt Squad]

Yeah that was Denmark. You were townread because you were charming. I lack that. And I caught scum. I did wind up nailing you though.

r u talking abt me or FA?

to be clear, I'm talking about the nailing part, not the charming part

[Salt Squad]

That was Heat, not me Titus

-SC

[Salt Squad]

just got confused cause i was

anyways titus, the only scum u got in that game iirc was davsto and mayb nero

[Salt Squad]

I think you are always charming FA

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

took me like 4 posts to get myself lynched in denmark maf

tbf u amished tell'd pretty hard

[Salt Squad]

VOTE: Expedience

Heartless, Wayward Thinkers and No Retreat are also all good votes as well.


~Bee

[Salt Squad]

Cakez head is in the house, catching up now!

[Salt Squad]

OK here's a reads vomit

My Expe townread has inverted, his posting from page 22 or so on is atrocious. The rb vote for example stinks.
Cane + Able is still town and Titus is likely wrong there due to the aforementioned personal issues.
Heartless is null AF which is bizarre since I usually townread them quickly but their posts are mostly NAI.
Nos is a townread for activity and engagement

That's all from top of my head

-sc

[Salt Squad]

bad read from SC on 125 minus many townpoints dude what the shit.

126 IS SO WRONG LUNA FOX IS LIKE EXACTLY RIGHT OH MY GOD. not really bothering with Ice's posts because idk i think they town and whatever. they right when they say shit usually tho.

dig the meta coming from Ceph i appreciate the perspective. oh my god everything eexpedience posts is so fucking scummy.

ceeeeeeeeeEEEEEEERRRRBBB is lame.

Salt Squad is town i trust i trust i trust!!! Heartless scumlean for 223 there's been multiple FA townreads and u pick out that one? i can respect the reasoning in 255 but it just feels like maybe scum trying to discredit town finding each other early.

I like the reads in 234 except maybe the BBmolla read. again feels shallow. maybe im just being too wary of the dude.

lots and lots of words man oh man i feel like a kid in the back seat like ARE WE THERE YET "no we got another 9 pages" ARE WE THERE YET? yeah im getting hella lazy. ima just post what i have and read the last few pages and if u guys feel there's anything else super important to read lemme know. my HYDRA PARTNERS will keep tracking of those missing 10 or so pages

-Nahdia

Goddamn so I had 5 pages down in a big long catchup post and then my computer crashed so you people are just gonn ahve to to dealwith this shit sloppy shit and ur gonna like it

ok first 5 pages. from what i remember it was mostly bbmolla being dumb and ppl yelling. Tim was mad at him and i couldn't decide if it was disingeousous "trying really hard to look like town" or actually town. bbmolla wasn't actually town fori t. copper was right on that. luna was right to say people should stop giving a fuck. SC was bad when he called luna scum for that but was town when he said something else and i dont really remmber what it was. also THIS GUY. THIS FUCKING GUY. THIS GUY IS SCUM. AND IM GONNA VOTE HIM RIGIHT NOW:

VOTE: EXPEDIENCE

im actually so pos of this and whenever i get confident early game reads they're usually right so look the fuck out dude im tunneling you till the end of time.

other stuff. The ice head of Ice and Fire got salty and Titus called her town for it and Titus was probably right but NAI from Titus. ASOIAF lean town tho. Nosferatu dishes out some quality bant and Cephir apparently isn't about that lifestyle but he can step off bc Nosferatu is cool by me dude. i feel ike scum were moe inclined to harp on that molla bullshit for as long as they could bc it's the kind of discussion where ucan blend in and earn #townpoints without actually having reads.

anyway more to come SOON probably maybe and i will likely be more drunk by then this is just first 5 pages.

-Nahdia

I'm inclined to townread Stormblade for this because Exped was my biggest scumlean early game as well. I want to hear reasons though, once you catch up.

Exped scumread increased from 67% to 69% (hehe 69!)

Please hold while I collect quotes:

Spoiler: Scummy Expe Quotes IMHO

"Are you aware there is a cult in the game"
"But what does it mean?"

+

"Please give region"
"Why'd you do that bro"

His entrance was so town are you kidding me.

extremely shallow read. my first inclination was BBmolla was town for it but reading it again i was like "but why the fuck would he do this" and it instantly occured to me that he might be making an early claim for townpoints because that's something lots of people tend to townread but the info is honestly going to be widely useless.

LMFAO wHo cAREAS HAHA Xd

I do. Well I did.

There's at least 3 factions that have a 1-shot recruiting ability, and the cult probably is multiple shot but I can't imagine them not being able to recruit humans.

Do Bulletproofs claim so their role becomes worthless? No, because that's stupid.

But by all means, continue to troll. Maybe more sods like Expedience will buy that

Okay, but how does that make BBMolla scum rather than just bad town?

again this is so shallow and just feels like Expe is defending "the read townies should have". scum who knows the person he's talking about isn't his alignment (this is multiball but subscious scumtells still lean towards insgleball?)

That's all you can find because you're scum and incapable of reading, all you can do is see.

Yes, I am siriously threatening you with my vote.

My normal response to this kind of shitty behaviors is to say "Fuck off"

I won't respond to it anyway cuase I'm done getting force replaced for people like you corning me and making me toxic.

so ....

Hi town. (Hugs)

Not really, that;s what I would expect FA to do as either alignment.

Okay, but how does that make BBMolla scum rather than just bad town?

Do you have any experience playing with BBmolla? He's not bad town. you can say maybe he's performed badly as town sometimes, but he isn't bad town. 2ndly, he has a carefree attitude as all alignments really. And he's done speculative plays before as scum before as well.

@Bbmolla: Perhaps you don't have the same kind of "how to play a role" sense as I do, but that kind of play really stretches my limits of credulity. In any case my metric for scumminess won't be defined as just that, so if your day play is satisfactory it will do a lot to help your claim

Okay, I mean town-who-misplayed or whatever you want to call claiming your faction and flavor for no reason as town. Because I see that as no less likely than him faking it as scum even if he has a carefree attitude as all alignments.

discrediting early FA townread is bad. knee jerk reaction to town finding each other or whatever uhg thi is feeling so contrived honestly this shit is fuckign scummy ok. the carefree attitutd thing is w/e idk.

Sry for trying to play the game... ;-,

bad post bad post bad post bad post bad post badpotsufbb

That discussion wrt BBMolla has been overblown I agree, why do we want to speculate on something so silly?

^ scumpostng

NO IT'S NOT WHAT THE HELL.

shutting scumhunting by overfocusing on probability discussion.

Clearly not a thing.

YES IT IS WHAT THE HELL.

Luna what do you think about the people who were talking about the probability stuff?

I think if they're town, they should be discussing alignments instead of probability and if they are discussing probability they should explain how it relates to finding alignment.
If they are scum like i think Exp is, then they are doing fine by shutting scumhunting by overfocusing on probability discussion.

Why are you pretending to scumread me?

WHAT EVEN IS THIS SUPPOSED TO BE

Let's just all agree to immediately lynch Luna Fox once the day starts so people don't struggle to keep up with all the hydra posts.

This is scum or anti-town at best, how does it help you to immediately lynch me even if you think im scum, before i even get started scumhunting and getting information out?

because urscumlol

Yes Cephrir, but the hydras will be nightkilled maybe. I just don't want to get caught up in all the posts. I know for a fact that in a large theme if my concentration lapses for one day of not caring to post I will be possibly forever disengaged.

UR SHADIER THAN A WILLOW TREE DUDE.

FA is seemingly acting as a mediator here and I think it's scummy.

WHAT DOES THIS EVEN MEAN

im not expressing myself well i guess but i dont wanna just say gut i just feel like he's

a) Trying to harp on a mech discussion so he can blend in with town
b) Discrediting early townreads which has scum motive written all over it
c) His own scumreads make no fucking sense to me and are on people i mostly townread
d) His reactions to people scumreading him SUCK. "im sorry for playing the game lol y r u pretending to scmread me xDDD"

VOTE: EXPEDIENCE

-Nahdia

I forgot to mention this is the towniest Nahdia post I have ever read.

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

VOTE: Cane and Able

The Nos votes suck, their vote sucks. The heartless vote is rather meh. Anti's probably town though. I've been scum with him and I cannot seem him efforting this hard as scum.

this makes no sense, heartless's play has been lukewarm so far, not try hard

-sc

[Salt Squad]

Actually yeah Titus could be scum
Her whole 1v1 with Cane and Able was bad and her Heartless townread is bizarre

-sc

[Salt Squad]

We think we will go with a vote on rb for now.
VOTE: RB

This vote is placed for a twofold reason. The first is the constant on the percentages. Planning ahead and running the numbers pings me as scummy
The second is the general sheeping of opinions.

~Suz

p-edit, goodness gracious everyone is posting so fast.

This is terrible, percentages aren't AI

Nos is a townread for activity and engagement

i can think of like 8 posters who are more active and engaged, and they probably aren't all town. go back to the reads store and buy a new one.

Except it's Nos who usually lurks his ass off

-sc

[Salt Squad]

Heartless is null AF which is bizarre since I usually townread them quickly but their posts are mostly NAI.

oh hey spiffeh, nice to see you again

oh hey there cheetory

I've got a bit of paranoia about Cakez b/c idk where he gets the idea he can read me, but he's more accurate than somebody that has played several games with me.

Read some old games + some more modern games

Actually yeah Titus could be scum
Her whole 1v1 with Cane and Able was bad and her Heartless townread is bizarre

-sc

it improved if you didn't stop paying attention.

No it didn't

-sc

[Salt Squad]

Except it's Nos who usually lurks his ass off

if he usually does it, why is it alignment indicative this time?

Last time he was like this he was town in soccer spirits

LQ where is your rb meta from?

-sc

[Salt Squad]

Oh that
You're a null read, not a scumread dw

-sc

[Salt Squad]

We think we will go with a vote on rb for now.
VOTE: RB

This vote is placed for a twofold reason. The first is the constant on the percentages. Planning ahead and running the numbers pings me as scummy
The second is the general sheeping of opinions.

~Suz

p-edit, goodness gracious everyone is posting so fast.

This is terrible, percentages aren't AI

Not terrible. I have more meta on rb than everyone in this game combined.

rb doing the silly percentages is not what I know of his play as either alignment so pressuring that slot is what we are aiming for. I don't have a ton of meta on him within a game context, but I do know it is unlike him to do this.

~LQ

this post is all sorts of

Spoiler:

[Salt Squad]

actually VOTE: WT

we can talk abt this in skype guys

[Salt Squad]

197 199 were the best examples of what irked me anti.

I liked 564 though.

You opened kinda throwing darts which makes it harder for me to feel good about you but you then picked up steam.

-sc

[Salt Squad]

going to bed, marker post

-sc

[Salt Squad]

yo but like wtf thats so intricate

how do u have the time mastin

<<< I have the time because I meant it when I said I wanted to give this game my all, and always be here for you players to mediate. If I'm here reading to stop things from getting out of control, I may as well spend my time productively! >>>

[Salt Squad]

Probs to represent that all the votes are from scum aligned players.

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

Someone said beeboy (Salt) was scum and I agree. Actions and words are on different frequencies here.

Can you find me an example of this?

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

I can't wait to be able to vote people ^__^

~Bee

who you wanna vote?

lets talk about our reads.

~Ice

Town
Cephir - Town posting and paranoia of town reads that are on him (classic mutliball town tell)
BBmolla - Scum doesn't randomly distribute potentially incriminating information in the first few posts of the game when they don't know if the will get town read.
Luna - Gut, I don't think Luna would be this active as scum because she isn't confident in herself as a player.
Fire and Ice - Fire is legit scum hunting using pretty good reasoning which isn't something I expect from a scum!firebringer.
Tim - Has good reads so gut.


Scum
Wayward Thinkers - Random information fishing early on to try and look useful was pretty sketchy and I don't think anything that was asked will lead to anything.
Expedience - Has lots of big posts but hasn't left any sort of impact on me which gives me horrible gut feelings.



Wayward Thinkers right now since Expedience is just gut.

Who do you want to vote and do you have questions about my thoughts on other players?


~Bee

OK, here you say we are Scum and say you have reasons but don't say what those reasons are.

Except it's Nos who usually lurks his ass off

if he usually does it, why is it alignment indicative this time?

Last time he was like this he was town in soccer spirits

LQ where is your rb meta from?

-sc

I won't say. rb can either confirm or deny, but if he denies I'm never taking my vote off of them.

Probs to represent that all the votes are from scum aligned players.

~Bee

Seriously? Seriously? This has to be one of the worst analysis I have ever seen.

part 1) Is a misrepresentation I explained my read in the post you quoted.
part 2) Is meh
part 3) Is scum feeling victimized by a post that I made as a joke.

Lynch this slot please.

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

MathBlade and Titus is town engaging town.

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

I'll answer this question, but I'll let you know that I went through your iso to find specific examples and ended up a little less confident about this read.
You say you have scumreads and they need to die, but you're not actually acting on those words
You say you "aggressively have reads" and "scum players will try to match that" but I'm not seeing this aggression.

I was immediately burned out when people saying that my game plan was a joke if you want me to be honest.
Sorry you lost that beeboy this game :/ I also am pretty warry of creating musical mafia again since I think I was posting like a complete idiot in that game.

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

1) yeah, and I have no idea why you think it was informations fishing. I was pretty straight forward for me wanting to know what BB was from
2) Meh? that's all you have to say about it? I don't want to see you confirmation biasing me 30 pages from now.
3) Honestly, with some of the rest of the stuff you have said, I wouldn't put it past you if you were actually serious there. Your ISO is full of stuff like this that doesn't make any sense.

1) Yes you asked him for pointless information and there was never any follow up to the questions on your part. I don't think the information you where asking for is important for town to know this early which made me believe you where scum. Responding to my pregame read this late to try and discredit me is a top kek. Like did you just go through my ISO and try and find a way to discredit the primary player pushing your wagon?
2) Meh. Yes you are town reading someone for something in an ongoing game (only meta based read you can't talk about). What do you want me to say to you regarding this? I have no idea what this read is based on and as a result it means nothing to me.
3) Town don't take posts like 684 seriously and if they do they ignore it. You are feeling victimized of literally nothing.

VOTE THIS SLOT PLEASE.

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

I was immediately burned out when people saying that my game plan was a joke if you want me to be honest.

ok, man.... i feel like i'm fixin' to have another hiplop situation...

i'm not TRYING to be a dipshit even though i kind of am but that's b/c i AM a dipshit that's not you. but i will say, matter-of-factly, that i think your approach is very flawed and you are very likely to townread a fair amount of scum. i mean... you'll probably townread a lot of town (just by sheer probability, w/ or w/o the help of scum knowledge) and that's cool. but i think the methodology has flaws (even in single ball, probably exacerbated in multiball)

that's just my opinion, take it or leave it. i kinda' dont care. i dont rly have any interest in micromanaging you.

IMPORTANT TAKE AWAY: just dont think i'm mindlessly putting you down because you're you. b/c im not.

I think this reach out comes from town. It isn't buddying and it isn't them defending themselves. (in terms of alignment) Unless Heartless is scum and I have some killer reads right now I this is most likely a town post.

Also don't worry I appreciate this actually and it clears things up

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

someone explain why they felt the aggression and calling so many people scum is scummy

Because he's been calling me scum for no reason and i don't like that

Hey Luna

I have a question. What are your thoughts on TW?

[Salt Squad]

I am going to get off my computer so I am done for the night.

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

A50 seems 100% different than what im used 2 seeing but considering i only have 1 finished game w/him (he was scum) im not actually sure what to take from it

[Salt Squad]

also im kinda sideeyeing everyone who didnt rly take part in the pregame discussions that much bc why miss out on that? seems sus

[Salt Squad]

Actually, when I look back at Mathblade's earlier post, umm what's up with "grouping" people so early anyway?

Not liking this. We need to figure out who's who and whom they're aligned with. It's not like this is a simple "everyone plays for their own" kind of game.

Which brings me to this simple announcement:

- To ALL Humans (regardless of your origin, tribe and what not): Do NOT drop by (i.e. do not try to visit me).

Non-Humans are welcome to try though
here, kitty kitty kitty kitty

[Salt Squad]

maybe they have lives

??? idk what that is

[Salt Squad]

anyways to me a50 is null nd shit so I'll consult with my other heads and see what they think

expe is still a decent wagon. gladiate is fake. stormblade is town.

[Salt Squad]

Post 966 was also heinous

i don't understand why he even made this post, was there supposed to be a point

it was a "reads list"

...i think

[Salt Squad]

rb i havent liked your latest posts.
You're breaking my heart.

P-Edit: that's a lil better

Would you like to bond over a wayward thinkers vote

[Salt Squad]

well this is going.

someone tell me who to vote.

Wayward.

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

salt and others who are still strongly pushing other things

do you think almost50 is scum

theres a 69% chance imho

[Salt Squad]

Luna follow me to WT

~Bee

pedit: <3
ppedit: that was heat

[Salt Squad]

Also Luna is pretty obviously disconnected I just ignore her

I asked you a question!

Luna I asked you a question!

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

Luna + Wayward + A50 scum team op.

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

rb i havent liked your latest posts.
You're breaking my heart.

P-Edit: that's a lil better

Luna since you already claimed not human what race are you?

[Salt Squad]

rb i havent liked your latest posts.
You're breaking my heart.

P-Edit: that's a lil better

Luna since you already claimed not human what race are you?

I wouldn't mind saying, if this was a normal theme game, but for all i know there may be a specific faction out to get my specific race or something of the sort, is it really that important to know right now that i should risk it?

Ok Luna may be town because of this.

[Salt Squad]

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

What... the... fuck... beeboy

I wanted to see if she was thinking from a mindset of a 3rd party town faction thing.

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

Hey I'm like 20 pages back this is gonna be fun

-sc

[Salt Squad]

@SC, that's not waffles. Nice meme. It says I felt iffy about Anti but he got better and now he's a weak townread.

@Anti, will remember post tags next time. Sorry.

That sounds waffly to me

i had forgotten how fucking amazing mastin votecounts are

<<< <3 >>>

^ this
Seriously these VCs are awesome

<<< <3
Only the best for my players. >>>

Tired, I'm going to keep it short, maybe I'll come back after a shower.

I'm a fan of Expedience death.
Both of the wayward heads made bad entrances and no redeeming factors about that slot.
Someone said beeboy (Salt) was scum and I agree. Actions and words are on different frequencies here.
Titus isn't really actively applying any pressure anywhere.

Add early scumreads on C+A and ASOIAF that haven't dissolved.
3 townreads so far.

pedit- make that 4

-errant

This pings me but I'm not sure why. Probably the weird scumread on us.

I'm through pg 37. Dave looks scum, rb looks town, WT looks scum. Heartless has evolved to a townread.

[Salt Squad]

^ was SC

[Salt Squad]

off the top of my head:

Nosferatu is still a light scum read.

Thinking Mathblade could be Scum as well.

Kinda like Titus as Town with their later content.

There was a post by Copper the pinged me, but forgot what it was.

Don't know about your slot yet.

Heartless is prolly Town, even though I don't like the "meh" vote they placed on us.

Don't know about C+A.

Still like No Result or whatever their name is for Town.

Don't like Salt Squads push on me.

The rest I'm just not sure of at all.

At this rate, I don't think I'll have enough trivia.

Re-runs are always welcome

So you guys decided to beat the record of the # of posts in pregame? The funny thing is Dunn isn't even in this game!

Catching up is taking quite sometime even though I have obviously mostly skimmed up to this point. Only getting the gist of it all.

What I did notice thus far is:

1- Expedience is disliked by many for some reason that I have yet to research.
2- Cane + Able are being a nag.
3- BBMolla made some weird claim that I'm not buying.
4- Luna is probably on my side (not completely sure though)
5- Titus is probably town too.
6- I had foreseen trouble coming my way from the Stormblade trio before the pre-game phase, but I get the feeling we could be friends (I'd rather have confirmation on this from ABR though, bc I'm having trouble trusting Nahdia)
7- Other people I won't trust until I see evidence they're "on the good side" include dram (you fooled me once) & SirCakez (we should always start by assuming we're on opposing factions until proven otherwise )
8- Surprisingly enough I do NOT have a clear read on the FA+FB slot (Come on guys! Couldn't you have picked a longer username so that one enjoys typing an essay whenever addressing you??)
9- Finally, KC claims to be able to read me, so I'll let her decide on whether we should be friends of foes here.

You said you were iffy on them which I took to be a nullscum read, then you changed to a town read relatively quickly after that

-sc

[Salt Squad]

Spoiler:

off the top of my head:

Nosferatu is still a light scum read.

Thinking Mathblade could be Scum as well.

Kinda like Titus as Town with their later content.

There was a post by Copper the pinged me, but forgot what it was.

Don't know about your slot yet.

Heartless is prolly Town, even though I don't like the "meh" vote they placed on us.

Don't know about C+A.

Still like No Result or whatever their name is for Town.

Don't like Salt Squads push on me.

The rest I'm just not sure of at all.

At this rate, I don't think I'll have enough trivia.

Re-runs are always welcome

So you guys decided to beat the record of the # of posts in pregame? The funny thing is Dunn isn't even in this game!

Catching up is taking quite sometime even though I have obviously mostly skimmed up to this point. Only getting the gist of it all.

What I did notice thus far is:

1- Expedience is disliked by many for some reason that I have yet to research.
2- Cane + Able are being a nag.
3- BBMolla made some weird claim that I'm not buying.
4- Luna is probably on my side (not completely sure though)
5- Titus is probably town too.
6- I had foreseen trouble coming my way from the Stormblade trio before the pre-game phase, but I get the feeling we could be friends (I'd rather have confirmation on this from ABR though, bc I'm having trouble trusting Nahdia)
7- Other people I won't trust until I see evidence they're "on the good side" include dram (you fooled me once) & SirCakez (we should always start by assuming we're on opposing factions until proven otherwise )
8- Surprisingly enough I do NOT have a clear read on the FA+FB slot (Come on guys! Couldn't you have picked a longer username so that one enjoys typing an essay whenever addressing you??)
9- Finally, KC claims to be able to read me, so I'll let her decide on whether we should be friends of foes here.

Cool! I'm all caught up as of NOW. I -of course- expect to be some 30 pages behind when I check in next time!

Reads (roughly so):

1.Heartless - - - - - (I'll need to reread their ISO)
2.KuroiXHF - - - - - (I'll be damned if I could recall he was playing here w/o checking the player list)
3.Klingoncelt - - - - (um??)
4.Titus - - - - - - - - (leaning town, but I don't remember why!)
5.dramonic - - - - - (Call me paranoid, but I'll keep him at null)
6.Salt Squad - - - - (beeboy is townish)
7.Almost50 - - - - - (I think he needs to go get some sleep)
8.Nosferatu - - - - - (He posted a few times, but nothing stuck into my memory)
9.Mathblade - - - - (The only think I learnt is they're Titus sibling!)
10.Wayward Thinker (I'm "trying" to give them the benefit of doubt, telling myself scum could be pushing the slot for hinting they can investigate location. Still, I'm not comfortable with LQ's play thus far and I have my doubts. Null for now)
11.Stormblade - - - (Ah yes. The fantastic 3. Nahdia's giving me town vibes, and I hope I'm right this time)
12.davesaz - - - - - (some of the good and some of the bad. He does have content but I'm undecided on his alignment)
13.copper223 - - - - (The name doesn't ring a bell. I know I've seen a post or two from him but...)
14.Cane + Able - - - (This slot is up to something. Whether it's good or not is yet to be decided. I'm watching you two.)
15.Tim - - - - - - - - (Insert some comment please)
16.No Retreat - - - - (One thing is for sure. The avatar is MUCH better than the annoying one Nero has on his own account.)
17.A Song of Ice and Fire (Frozen is starting to town up, but I also need Fire to talk more so I can read the slot with more confidence.)
18.RAM - - - - - - - - (So far Cerb has not been as active as I've seen him be in SS)
19.Lady Lambdadelta - (OmegaPiOmikron.. what's up?)
20.rb - - - - - - - - - (I want to say a town lean but something inside me says not to be hasty).
21.Cephrir - - - - - - (Is that Dutch?)
22.Luna Fox - - - - - (I could've put her at the top of my town reads had it not been for that claim. Still feeling more comfortable considering her friendly).
23.Expedience - - - - (I'm trying not scum read you bc everybody else seems to, but you're reads and votes are making it a bit difficult for me to town read you at any level at all.)
24.BBMolla - - - - - - (Honestly I wasn't buying your pre-game claim until Luna claimed, so maybe that's the one positive side of her claim.)
25.TheWayItEnds - - (This one's going to have to wait)
26.Skybird - - - - - - (Peregrine? Is that you?)
27.Toogeloo - - - - - (I remember the name, but I didn't see the face.)
28.Franky - - - - - - (Or maybe THIS is Peregrine??)

Disclaimer: All reads subject to change upon a reread or new content. the two I'm most comfortable with are the two non-human claims, bc the claims support eachother (and somewhat make sense to me)

gdi I was doing catchup and those quotes ghosted into 1184
What I was going to say (and will say here instead) is these readslists sucks

-sc

[Salt Squad]

Idk Cakey, if Storm blade was scum ABR could have easily agreed with errant's read of me to fuel Titus' hard-on for my mislynch.

yeah it was just the errant post that pinged me, I've mostly liked what else their slot has offered

-sc

[Salt Squad]

off the top of my head:

Nosferatu is still a light scum read.

Thinking Mathblade could be Scum as well.

Kinda like Titus as Town with their later content.

There was a post by Copper the pinged me, but forgot what it was.

Don't know about your slot yet.

Heartless is prolly Town, even though I don't like the "meh" vote they placed on us.

Don't know about C+A.

Still like No Result or whatever their name is for Town.

Don't like Salt Squads push on me.

The rest I'm just not sure of at all.

At this rate, I don't think I'll have enough trivia.

Re-runs are always welcome

So you guys decided to beat the record of the # of posts in pregame? The funny thing is Dunn isn't even in this game!

Catching up is taking quite sometime even though I have obviously mostly skimmed up to this point. Only getting the gist of it all.

What I did notice thus far is:

1- Expedience is disliked by many for some reason that I have yet to research.
2- Cane + Able are being a nag.
3- BBMolla made some weird claim that I'm not buying.
4- Luna is probably on my side (not completely sure though)
5- Titus is probably town too.
6- I had foreseen trouble coming my way from the Stormblade trio before the pre-game phase, but I get the feeling we could be friends (I'd rather have confirmation on this from ABR though, bc I'm having trouble trusting Nahdia)
7- Other people I won't trust until I see evidence they're "on the good side" include dram (you fooled me once) & SirCakez (we should always start by assuming we're on opposing factions until proven otherwise )
8- Surprisingly enough I do NOT have a clear read on the FA+FB slot (Come on guys! Couldn't you have picked a longer username so that one enjoys typing an essay whenever addressing you??)
9- Finally, KC claims to be able to read me, so I'll let her decide on whether we should be friends of foes here.

Cool! I'm all caught up as of NOW. I -of course- expect to be some 30 pages behind when I check in next time!

Reads (roughly so):

1.Heartless - - - - - (I'll need to reread their ISO)
2.KuroiXHF - - - - - (I'll be damned if I could recall he was playing here w/o checking the player list)
3.Klingoncelt - - - - (um??)
4.Titus - - - - - - - - (leaning town, but I don't remember why!)
5.dramonic - - - - - (Call me paranoid, but I'll keep him at null)
6.Salt Squad - - - - (beeboy is townish)
7.Almost50 - - - - - (I think he needs to go get some sleep)
8.Nosferatu - - - - - (He posted a few times, but nothing stuck into my memory)
9.Mathblade - - - - (The only think I learnt is they're Titus sibling!)
10.Wayward Thinker (I'm "trying" to give them the benefit of doubt, telling myself scum could be pushing the slot for hinting they can investigate location. Still, I'm not comfortable with LQ's play thus far and I have my doubts. Null for now)
11.Stormblade - - - (Ah yes. The fantastic 3. Nahdia's giving me town vibes, and I hope I'm right this time)
12.davesaz - - - - - (some of the good and some of the bad. He does have content but I'm undecided on his alignment)
13.copper223 - - - - (The name doesn't ring a bell. I know I've seen a post or two from him but...)
14.Cane + Able - - - (This slot is up to something. Whether it's good or not is yet to be decided. I'm watching you two.)
15.Tim - - - - - - - - (Insert some comment please)
16.No Retreat - - - - (One thing is for sure. The avatar is MUCH better than the annoying one Nero has on his own account.)
17.A Song of Ice and Fire (Frozen is starting to town up, but I also need Fire to talk more so I can read the slot with more confidence.)
18.RAM - - - - - - - - (So far Cerb has not been as active as I've seen him be in SS)
19.Lady Lambdadelta - (OmegaPiOmikron.. what's up?)
20.rb - - - - - - - - - (I want to say a town lean but something inside me says not to be hasty).
21.Cephrir - - - - - - (Is that Dutch?)
22.Luna Fox - - - - - (I could've put her at the top of my town reads had it not been for that claim. Still feeling more comfortable considering her friendly).
23.Expedience - - - - (I'm trying not scum read you bc everybody else seems to, but you're reads and votes are making it a bit difficult for me to town read you at any level at all.)
24.BBMolla - - - - - - (Honestly I wasn't buying your pre-game claim until Luna claimed, so maybe that's the one positive side of her claim.)
25.TheWayItEnds - - (This one's going to have to wait)
26.Skybird - - - - - - (Peregrine? Is that you?)
27.Toogeloo - - - - - (I remember the name, but I didn't see the face.)
28.Franky - - - - - - (Or maybe THIS is Peregrine??)

Disclaimer: All reads subject to change upon a reread or new content. the two I'm most comfortable with are the two non-human claims, bc the claims support eachother (and somewhat make sense to me)

Yes, I was doing multiquote and when I responded to Titus the quotes popped in accidentally.

Almost's list of comments was just commentary and not analysis, then his readslist was fence sitting city
WT's readslist was OMGUSy and not reasoned out at all

-sc

[Salt Squad]

IT HAPPENED AGAIN CRI
I'm gonna start previewing my posts in case it happens again

-sc

[Salt Squad]

ok I'm caught up
Almost goes into the scum pool for his terrible comments/reads post
Kuroi is nullscum for his awful TWIE vote

Luna, Tim, WT and Dave make up my scum pool currently, Kuroi outside

-sc

[Salt Squad]

ok I'm caught up
Almost goes into the scum pool for his terrible comments/reads post
Kuroi is nullscum for his awful TWIE vote

Luna, Tim, WT, Almost and Dave make up my scum pool currently, Kuroi outside

-sc

ebwop

[Salt Squad]

ok I'm caught up
Almost goes into the scum pool for his terrible comments/reads post
Kuroi is nullscum for his awful TWIE vote

Tim, WT, Almost and Dave make up my scum pool currently, Kuroi outside

-sc

ebwop

fixed
~Bee

[Salt Squad]

But you won't sheep me on Wayward

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

Also Toog is some form of thing that wins with the town

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

some form of thing

eww that's mean

Things can be nice. It is a word that you use when you don't know what to say.
Not very nice of you to assume I have ill intent

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

An acceptable apology Luna would be a wayward vote.

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

That's not what I mean tho D:

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

i am now very much in favor of turning a50 into a charred corpse, i'll see what the bird thinks of it

thats all for me now. catch you losers later.

All this bc you're anti-humans and you can't touch me at night? That's the easiest ans fastest scum claim I have ever seen on this sight.

VOTE: Heartless

Scum claimed already, but for those who missed it:

I openly asked Humans not to visit/target me at night. I said non-human could "try" though. Humans naturally would appreciate the warning (even if they get suspicious about it), and non-human aligned with humans will want to wait to see what happens with it.

Now only anti-humans would start to worry bc -to them- I explicitly announced myself as and enemy figure that they're not going to kill at night, so they have to start finding some reason to make a push on me that -even if it doesn't work on D1- would still be there for them to build on later on.

Now I need someone who understands my talk and logic to rephrase it to the public, if they please, so that everybody will know why I'm heavily scum reading Heartless already.

Michelleobama.jpeg

[Salt Squad]

Final conclusion: He's scum "regardless". << remember this Nahdia? Cerb? beeboy (Oh, probably not you)? Who else was there though? KC, oh, DRAM (if you were paying attention to the posts in your game).

I wouldn't expect Heat to remember anything,

and Cakez joined much later.. who else? Yeah Nos, EP (you MUST recall this), Frozen, TWIE & Molla. Oh, Fire too.. you were there.. kind of!

?

[Salt Squad]

also you said something abt u hoping beeboy wld rein in my paranoia

what paranoia

[Salt Squad]

And I don't expect you to remember ANYTHING in SS either cuz you were hardly following the game.

you know what? fuck off

[Salt Squad]

and thats all im gonna say on that topic

[Salt Squad]

1.Heartless - - - - - SCUM: They're going after town players.

I stopped reading there.

omg no keep reading it gets even better

[Salt Squad]

oh u did thats sad

anyways that reads list is horrible and even includes "gotta have more scumreads 2 please the ppl", paraphrased

[Salt Squad]

And I don't expect you to remember ANYTHING in SS either cuz you were hardly following the game.

you know what? fuck off

[Salt Squad]

sry ill try 2 use a different michelle obama pic next time but thats my fave one

[Salt Squad]

The wood there is considered second to none

sign me up

[Salt Squad]

sry ill try 2 use a different michelle obama pic next time but thats my fave one

It's just awful, I hate having to scroll past it.

[Salt Squad]

Now get it through your thick skull because I'M NOT CLAIMING MY FULL ROLE not even AFTER I get hammered (if i do). If you ARE human, look elsewhere and let me do my thing here.

Now go vote Heartless bc I promise you he is anti-humans. If you don't have faith in my early reads please go check SOCCER SPIRITS (even though we were both scum on the same faction) or Bloodborne (the game Varsoon just finished modding). In the former I was adamant DS was Mafia and he was. The latter I was pushing on Nahdia and got ignored and she ended up sweeping the game for scum single handed. (and there are players here who witnessed at least one of these two game, including yourself, so get your head in place and VOTE CAUGHT SCUM).

This feels town, please stop voting this upstanding gentleman.

He's not saying "i'm town unhand me this instant!!", he's focusing his energy into trying to lynch someone else and that is a town mindset even if it isn't clear why he's thinks that.

i dont think this is necessarily town mindset

like scum cld easily be trying to push a counterwagon to their own

[Salt Squad]

blocking each image you post using adblocker

shit, gotta get my ascii art generator out :///

[Salt Squad]

sry next time ill b more clear with my sarcasm

[Salt Squad]

ok thats enough from me tonight see u all tmrw kisses

[Salt Squad]

Hello I will keep playing this game later.
My reads haven't developed from my last post.

Uh.. keep voting Wayward please and thank you.

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

I am reading Anti but once again the way he shoots the arguments down is relevant, we shall see; I have more than one way to read ceph.

@A50
Why did you feel the need to write that list when assuming town you are clearly still need to think about your reads?

I'm not going to get invested early in this game because if I do, I will lead the town and drive a lynch on cult, and then probably get recruited into that same cult the very night after I lynched them. That's my luck. Another reason is that it takes 15 to lynch and we are so far off from that. Another reason is there are too many players and I can't keep track until this number dwindles down.

Albert

I like you

you need 1 thing : don't being an arrogant jerk

the rest of what you do as town is brilliant so find us a scum cuase thats the reason your here if your town. don't do that and I will push you even harder cuase I saw with my eyes the proof of this claim that your discounected from game as scum all the time.

~Ice

You took the words out of my mouth that ABR post was horrible.
Nahdia still town posted like crazy tho so I still think the slot is town >_>

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

Actually I need to reevaluate my read on Storm Blade.
If they don't want to be culted claiming they can be culted is horrible.
Using a cult as an excuse to not scum hunt is equally horrible.

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

I have a gut feeling the Frozen head is also town.

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

VOTE: StormBlade

I am starting to like this now

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

Luna want to sheep me on StormBlade?

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

Ok so ABR is nonhuman so he can't be cutled and is using the cults as an excuse to not scum hunt.
Never unvoting this slot. ABR used equally stupid stuff to not scum hunt in cyberpunk.

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

kill me.

-nahd

Sure.

[Salt Squad]

Hello everyone.
Can we get some StormBlade votes.

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

VOTE: Kuroi

Still willing to vote Wayward and Almost50 but I made an executive hydra decision that sheeping Heartless and DGB is a good game plan.

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

VOTE: Kuroi

Still willing to vote Wayward and Almost50 but I made an executive hydra decision that sheeping Heartless and DGB is a good game plan.

~Bee

And stormblade

EBWOP

[Salt Squad]

That's a good vote Bee dont worry.

Fam all my votes are good.

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

DGB let me help you.
BBmolla is also town, scum would never just out all the secret info in there opening post.

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

Hey guys can we stop saying DGB is town cause i don't want her to be night killed k thx.

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

beeboy tell me why im voting wayward.

They asked a bunch of random questions that had 0 follow up early in the game.
I made a jokes post saying they where scum because mastin put there name in italics and they flipped out at me.

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

point me at the post(s) in question?

Bottom 771 and the first few posts they made this game you can find yourself I believe.

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

I never even knew there was a player named Franky in this game tbh.

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

I never even knew there was a player named Franky in this game tbh.

~Bee

I am sure his buddies aren't going to draw attention to him. We are going to have to take matters in our town hands.

I feel like worrying about lurkers this early is just a distraction from finding scum.
If he keeps lurking he's probs scum.

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

I'm 50 pages behind, mega catchup incoming yey

-sc

[Salt Squad]

{Franky, Toogeloo, Skybird, TWIE}

Unless we start seeing some activity out of these slots soonish, I could get behind voting in that group.

Good with this

i am now very much in favor of turning a50 into a charred corpse, i'll see what the bird thinks of it

thats all for me now. catch you losers later.

All this bc you're anti-humans and you can't touch me at night? That's the easiest ans fastest scum claim I have ever seen on this sight.

VOTE: Heartless

Scum claimed already, but for those who missed it:

I openly asked Humans not to visit/target me at night. I said non-human could "try" though. Humans naturally would appreciate the warning (even if they get suspicious about it), and non-human aligned with humans will want to wait to see what happens with it.

Now only anti-humans would start to worry bc -to them- I explicitly announced myself as and enemy figure that they're not going to kill at night, so they have to start finding some reason to make a push on me that -even if it doesn't work on D1- would still be there for them to build on later on.

Now I need someone who understands my talk and logic to rephrase it to the public, if they please, so that everybody will know why I'm heavily scum reading Heartless already.

this vote is terrible

Kuroi's posts are generally awful, he goes in my scum pool too

40 to go
-sc

[Salt Squad]

Salt Squad and Expedience are town.

Why Expe town?

There's a spot open on the Kuroi wagon, or on Cane.

Cane isn't scum, this is just a personality conflict
or you could be scum

I don't get the townreads on Titus.

If this was town!Titus, she's be vote parked on me, yelling and screaming at people to vote me and refuse to compromise.

But then, I also think she'd have responded to my reach out, which she promptly ignored.

She's scum hunting? Of course she is. It's quite probably multiball

Doesn't change the fact she's scum.

Why does nobody else see that?

I can't see Town!Titus compromising once she has her sights set on scum. CERTAINLY not this far from deadline, at any rate.

Where is town!tunnel!Titus?

I could get behind this

Well since it's come to this i'll just flat out mention that.

1) i'm in a NEIGHBORHOOD with other players, who are either the same race as me or are scum.
2) This also goes along the lines with ABR shouldn't be paranoid about cults.
3) ABR has also been pretty silent in the neighborhood.

Ergo my scumread on Storm.

I think my read here was wrong :/
this reads town af

30 to go
-sc

[Salt Squad]

First off, a three-person Hydra? I just realized this. Fucking what?

Strong Town:
Lean Town: Dramonic, Almost50, Cane and Able, Tim, ASOIAF, RAM, Expedience
Null/Unsorted: Klingoncelt, Titus, Nosferatu, Stormblade, davesaz, Copper, Lady L, RB, Goofball, BBMolla, Toogeloo, Franky
Lean Scum: Heartless, Salt Squad, No Retreat , Cephrir, TWIE
Strong Scum: Wayward Thinker, Luna

BTW, just realized I'm finally playing a game with my old pal, Nero. Hi Nero!

And yes, my list is really undeveloped. I'm aware.

this reads list is awful

Hello all. I slept on it, and I am now here. I'm caught up with the game and current events(though a current VC would be nice).

I dislike stormblade entirely because of ABR's apathy, but Titus is correct in that it's NAI. My own lack of involvement in the early game largely stemmed from the same reason. I'm willing to give him a few RL days, but certainly not an entire three week day phase. I don't think the point that the other heads are deliberately sitting back and letting Nahdia play for them is necessarily true, or if it is, that it's necessarily alignment indicative. If one head of a hydra garners all the town reads, and you can project your questions and pushes through their posting, there is literally no reason to speak up any more than you have to. Town's job is finding scum and not getting mislynched, so even though the first thought people seem to have is that this behavior, if indeed deliberate, is scummy, it's really not imo.
KuroiXF's most recent set of reads are, umm. yeah. It's disingenuous for him to call it underdeveloped, most likely? I've never played with Kuroi before I don't believe. Are his reads lists generally in depth, so him calling this one underdeveloped makes sense, because it's lacking detail? Or no? I need to reread his ISO/the cases against him, I don't recall any strong reason given for the votes, if someone could refresh my memory regarding whose ISO I need to look at to find the source of the push/possible reasoning everyone is agreeing with?
WT: LQ is awkward as fuck, always. He makes literally no sense to me ever. Even though my first inclination is to defend him simply because I know how easy he is to lynch....I've defended him because he's lynchbaity before when he was scum. :/ Suzune is easier to read for me(at least, I've been able to identify her towniness in the past...never seen her scum game, so, grain of salt), but I need more content from that head(CLEARLY LABELLED CONTENT OF SIGNIFICANCE) to pass any judgment here. In short, I haven't seen anything overtly scummy from the slot, just what appears to be standard LQ awkwardness, but that could EASILY be actual scum content.
Expe: Everyones talking about him. I should go reread his iso. He's scumreading my slot. More on this later, after I check his ISO because fuck, why do you all suspect him again? Nothing jumps out of my memory.
Luna: Luna's pretty town yo. Faction slip in PT(I did read that correctly, right? in the PT she has with stormblade, she slipped her faction? Please confirm Stormblade), and her initial posting and points/concerns regarding the whole win condition discussion(which shouldn't be ever mentioned again prior to like D4 or D5(or whenever appropriate in a game this size, I have no fucking idea actually)) seemed quite town.

Top of my head stuff, tried to touch on the people who are actually being voted for. Please engage me and point me in a specific direction for discussions/things you want my opinion on, if I missed anything important.

-Cerb

RAM right now

Wayward Thinker is town

why (again)?

VOTE: Kuroi

Still willing to vote Wayward and Almost50 but I made an executive hydra decision that sheeping Heartless and DGB is a good game plan.

~Bee

I am fine with this decision fyi

20 left
-sc

[Salt Squad]

yeah like everyone posts and argues and then on page like 250 with 12 hours left til deadline someone suggests a random lynch and then he miraculously flips SK.

100% success rate so far.

lol

Let's start with this demotivated scumbag:

VOTE: Franky

kuroi or wt are better

Vote: Kuroi

scum voting p sure, he just popped in with this vote and nothing else

12 or so left
-sc

[Salt Squad]

LLD is town posting that is all.

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

Also I am barely reading this game lol

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

The Kuroi wagon is shit. It occurs to me that multiple people on the Wayward wagon are jumping off it. I want to know why Kuroi is more scummy than Wayward. So far I haven't seen much from anyone to indicate

WHY

they actually think Wayward is town. That coupled with the fact that this Kuroi wagon would be so easy to jump on disturbs me. I feel like Kuroi's a counter-wagon.

why are these mutually exclusive? I'm scumreading both.

You took the words out of my mouth that ABR post was horrible.
Nahdia still town posted like crazy tho so I still think the slot is town >_>

~Bee

You weren't in Bloodborne though, so let SirCakez handle Nahdia. Trust me (ask him)

;-----;

The capitalized words on RAM's posts are deliberately placed and so the tone feels forced.

this is such garbage

Fuck it. Less cooperative option is a go.

Ceph let's do this.

VOTE: Copper

no stop trying to make cotunerwagons to your scum buddies

in other news franky is posting elsewhere on the site and not here.

luna it's also on our wiki page

don't think this is AI considering I was posting elsewhere on the site for a day w/o catching up here

all caught up finally!
-sc

[Salt Squad]

Cursory reads from the last 10 pages or so tell me Cephrir and Dramonic and Salt Squad and prooooooooooooooobably RB are town.

that last one is a little less certain, but those first 3 are like, solid gold.

So, Cephrir, Dramonic, Salt Squad: Give me a list of 2 people each you want me to look at in great detail and I'll fucking see if I can't motivate to find a scumfuck to lynch!

Kuroi and Wayward are both scum.

[Salt Squad]

^ ~Bee

[Salt Squad]

I don't care what order we lynch them in.
If we lynch WT first will you stay quiet?

[Salt Squad]

VOTE: WT

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

I am concerned that there isn't any pressure in the direction of ABR after his whole. "I can't scum hunt in thread or in my private hood because cults"

[Salt Squad]

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

ok, titus can you go over this "risk taking" behavior from wayward one more time?

i'm reviewing their posts and i'm very much getting the OPPOSITE impression

Was there ever an answer to this? I think I missed it :/

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

I do, like Cerb, and it makes me uncomfortable <.<

pssssshhhhhh, and im the hater here...?

Wayward - I liked the push on Kuroi and the risk taking.

what risk taking are you referring to?

The frequent votehops, starting a new wagon while he's the biggest one, with likely scum piling on his wagon, the follow up to him asking me the alignment question. LQ thinks I can always sort them accurately ultra fast. He came across real genuine there.

I was looking for this and I am underwhelmed with this response. But Titus is probably town.

[Salt Squad]

Very frequent vote hops is scum play, starting a new wagon is null when you are the main wagon, Focusing around yourself isn't town.

Like he is genuinely scummy at best.

[Salt Squad]

MathBlade is still town.
Dramonic is still town.
Titus is still town.
Wayward is still scum.

These last few pages where nice.

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

Actually Titus may be scum with Wayward scratch the above.

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

I am waiting for LLD to start bloodhounding WT.

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

Is it bad that i actually read the whole thing?

I did lol.
Where we not supposed to?

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

At this point I can't tell if Copper is just blatantly lying right now or not. I wouldn't be sad to see them go, honestly. There has been some really weird things said in the thread, like Luna's claim that they share a neighborhood. This just seems weird to me and I can't help but think it could be an elaborate way to cover up a Scum faction, not that I am hard core Scum reading anyone from that group. I actually have luna as Town, but Copper doesn't look good as things stand right now.

This is a post.

[Salt Squad]

I can -maybe- read beeboy

I have a golden scum game and you know it.

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

This head (Heat) is V/LA until monday. Going Camping yo

[Salt Squad]

SIgh... Toog is still town tho.

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

We want scum to cross kill not kill townies tho.

[Salt Squad]

When are new people going to start posting?

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

dang yo how did titus find out that we're kitsunes?

-nahdia

If you guys are the cult faction can you recruit me. I want to be a kitsune.

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

I am growing apathetic about this game and I don't think Cakez or Heat are actually reading it >_>
Can we just quick lynch Wayward or something?

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

make sure safe search is on first tho :T

-Nahdia

I think google just recommends a lot of hentai for you cause I got nothing on my end :/

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

I did. It says 5 factions in total. You read. Can't read half and then deceive town and then stop listening to the fucking mod because it is shitty to do so.

I have to go back to work but gaaaah I am seriously pulling my hair out.

Yeah I'm not even doing catchup anymore. If there's 20 pages since the last time I looked, that's 20 pages I'm not gonna read.
-Nahdia

This is me right now.

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

uuh only the second quote.

[Salt Squad]

Shut up dram.
I feel like his frustration is genuine.

So do I, but I still think he's scum.

[Salt Squad]

I think we all need more happiness.

~Bee

pedit: Luna gets it.

[Salt Squad]

Wait I missed that part on her read on WT.
She sort of gets it.

[Salt Squad]

ffs you guys stop posting so much
catching up now

-sc

[Salt Squad]

MathBlade is still town.
Dramonic is still town.
Titus is still town.
Wayward is still scum.

These last few pages where nice.

~Bee

Actually Titus may be scum with Wayward scratch the above.

~Bee

agree with all of this from bee

klingon looks like a shitty counterwagon to scum Kuroi and WT
like ffs I'm just skimming at this point, pick one of Kuroi and WT and lynch their ass, they're both scum

-sc

[Salt Squad]

@Cerb, we could vote Kuroi and just trust the vig to handle Klingon?

Why not the opposite?

VOTE: Kuroi

I was giving you a shot. I'm basically picking which townread to go with. Nero or Cerb.

town!titus wouldn't backtrack here

You know what, I'm actually just going to full claim all but my role itself. To be honest, if I die at night, I've done my job anyways, so I think the pros outweigh the cons here.

I belong to the Individual Human faction. I investigate as Northern Tribes for Region and Other for Location, but my wincon specifically says that I am of the Individual Humans and win when all threats to my faction are eliminated.

While my Region says Northern Tribes, that is the one and only time it's mentioned in my Role PM, and it doesn't suggest to me in any way shape or form that I am specifically grouped with them, in fact, my win con basically does the opposite by saying I am an individual.

I think this information will prove more useful out in the open.

toog is probably town but I highly doubt he'll still be town in a couple days lol

You've used "(the misppelled you're) just shitting me right now" when you were scum in House M.D. The exact phrase.

VOTE: A Song Of Ice And Fire

ur still scum

I am growing apathetic about this game and I don't think Cakez or Heat are actually reading it >_>
Can we just quick lynch Wayward or something?

~Bee

i am reading it, just not too often

hang someone soon please, we have our vote on scum, if you don't put it down.

-sc

[Salt Squad]

Wayward Thinker - 8 (

dramonic

,

Tim

, rb,

Salt Squad

, davesaz,

Heartless

, Nosferatu,

BBMolla

)

There im coloring my townreads on the wagon.
I usually have a hard time scumreading people, which is why i usually operate by townhunting, making it hard to me to find accurate townreads in multiball, one of the reasons i singed here was to try to overcome that weakness but it isnt going very well so far ^^;;

Wayward Thinker - 8 (

dramonic

,

Tim

, rb,

Salt Squad

, davesaz,

Heartless

,

Nosferatu

,

BBMolla

)

here let me help you Luna

[Salt Squad]

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

{Heartless, Math, Luna, Expedience, Molla}
{Titus, dram, Salt, Tim, ASOIAF, RAM, LLD, rb, Toog}
{Almost, Storm, copper, No Retreat, TWIE, DGB}
{KC, Nosferatu, WT, dave, Wake, Franky}
{Kuroi}

A couple of changes but these are my reads >_>

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

You're a cruel bastard.

I'm sure I am. I don't really like how you are name calling here to gain sympathy like I'm somehow being mean to you for suggesting that you are scum. Its mafia, I'm scumhunting. Like I said earlier maybe you going V/LA and being mafia were just a coincidence. I don't know whats gong on, if you are sick or whatever is going on I hope you feel better or the problem fixes itself.

However

I have serious reservation about your slot. You sorta cherry picked my review of your iso. I don't understand why you pushed for an Exe lynch with the reasoning that it would help you read Titus when you were already town reading her. And I'm not sure why you didn't address this unless you are flat out ignoring things and hoping they go away.

Your post about me not listing WT as a town or scum read is balls and totes ignores the fact that said list did NOT contain several players so it feels off and scummy.

I'm not trying to gain anyone's sympathy.

If you knew anything about my private life you'd know better than to say that.

Speaking of private life, I checked everywhere that I could think of, there's no rule that compels players to disclose why they're V/LA. That you're so interested in my whereabouts, I have to think you're stalking.

You're either stalking me or accusing me of cheating.

Both offenses can get you banned.

You should be policy lynched at the very least, Creep.

Beyond that I don't give a flying fuck, a rat's ass, or a tinker's damn how you feel about my slot.

VOTE: No Retreat

this post is disgusting

You say KC was connecting Expe and Kuroi. She wasn't. Instead of correcting you, she agrees that at one point she was connecting those two, but has since changed her mind.

That inconsistency /contradiction concerns me....like Expe said, it's as though she's not actually holding these reads, and so just went with what you said, even though it wasn't true.

-Cern

Would it help if I listed everyone that pinged my scumdar?
A Song of Ice and Fire
BBMolla
Dramonic
Expedience
Kuroi
No Retreat
Titus
Wayward Thinker

this is just an OMGUS list
Klingon into the scum pile

I'm making an executive decision for our hydra
VOTE: Kuroi
WT has a lot of iffy posts while all of Kuroi's posts are just transparently scum. I want to see WT copped/vigged/whatevered overnight.

-sc

[Salt Squad]

Luna I haven't really read the last 20-30 pages of this game should I go back and read them or did nothing happen?

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

I mean they are both scum tho so I am fine either way. I will wait for Heat before I plan on moving my vote so me and Cakez don't just end up moving our vote each time we post and I just woke up so I will read Luna's WT defense later.

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

Hydraing is hard man.

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

Lol heatless is the 3rd largest wagon.
That's funny.

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

Titus said risk taking was townie so WT is probably just taking more risks knowing it will get them town read.
Both are scum though and Kuroi is a good lynch.

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

I also am waiting on the Suzune head because there alignment will become really apparent if she starts posting.

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

That is a problem isn't it

[Salt Squad]

I think Mastin should just pm the scum players a list of the roles that are in this game and who has so we can stop wasting time role claiming.

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

I think Mastin should just pm the scum players a list of the roles that are in this game and who has so we can stop wasting time role claiming.

~Bee

I dont think anyone has role claimed?

I feel as though every time I check into this thread a new piece of role based info is shared.
Also claiming survivor is sketchy af and I am not sure how I am supposed to feel about it.

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

My win condition does not specify people need to live for me to win. I feel town.
Idk what I am missing here.

[Salt Squad]

I was talking about Luna not you.
Good night everyone btw o/

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

ABR flaked?!?

can't see any kind of content from him so far. he claimed he didn't read more than 80 pages of the game when it had about 85 pages and he is no vla till sunday.

he is still disconnected scummy abr

~Ice

disconnected abr was town in kuribo in wonderland fyi

Heartless - 2 (Almost50, copper223)

guys I found two scum

anyone with over 300 posts needs to stop spamming ffs
can two people step up and finish off Kuroi? Seriously this day needs to end.
It's been less then a week but it feels like years....
-sc

[Salt Squad]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=66574
read his ISO in that game, it was terrible

-sc

[Salt Squad]

Scum would totally just claim VT for us when they get to l-1 on day 1

[Salt Squad]

Was Dram scum?

Also

VOTE: Wayward

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

Luna I recall you saying something about Humanity in your win con?
How similar is Dram's wincon to yours.

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

So i take it Kuroi was scum?
I'm not sure on the rest, but i think Molla was town.

Kuroi was town I believe.

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

Do you people not know what you signed up for? mastin specifically said that

wincons are purposefully ambiguous.

Part of the puzzle of this game is figuring out who is with you and who is against you. It isn't meant to be immediately apparent.

-Nahdia

Nahdia you are either scum or share Luna's win con can you answer my question about comparing yours and Drams win con for me?

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

VOTE: Stormblade