Gistou (Over!)

[A Song of Ice and Fire]

It takes one night to make someone else vampire to continue your way.

poor recruiters

I'm not going to let this pressure change. there are so many wrong things about beeboy claim

~Ice

[Wake1]

The land now divided between humans, wulden, nosferatu, and undead, a four-way factional war is brewing...

...Yet a fifth faction lurks in the shadows...a faction with an entirely foreign motive, one which sparked the war in the first place.

For some reason this reminds me of Fire Emblem Fates: Revelations.

So we've got an unknown 5th.

We were told the Cult was unknown.

Maybe 5th = game-Cult, NOT flavor-Wulden-Cult.

[rb]

Sure, you could try convert me then I might have your wincon. I'd rather just lynch you though.

[A Song of Ice and Fire]

There are several cult groups I guess based on flavor.

I guess this vampire faction is a simple mafia thing more than a cult

~Ice

[Luna Fox]

I dunno, all i know is the result i got.

I AM SORRY THAT YOU GOT A HORRIBLY WRONG RESULT NOW STOP PUSHING ME AND GIVE ME ONE DAY TO CONFIRM MYSELF AS TOWN.

Inb4 culled
Inb4 roleblocked
Inb4 redirected

Like seriously, what.

[Salt Squad]

It takes one night to make someone else vampire to continue your way.

poor recruiters

I'm not going to let this pressure change. there are so many wrong things about beeboy claim

~Ice

You aren't thinking if you think I would honest claim scum in response to a factional claim.

Like I am either isolation faction or town vampire faction. There is no mystical 3rd option.

[Salt Squad]

I dunno, all i know is the result i got.

I AM SORRY THAT YOU GOT A HORRIBLY WRONG RESULT NOW STOP PUSHING ME AND GIVE ME ONE DAY TO CONFIRM MYSELF AS TOWN.

Inb4 culled
Inb4 roleblocked
Inb4 redirected

Like seriously, what.

Is me soaking a roleblock or redirect or me being culled and immediately lynched really that bad?
Like it is worth giving me the chance and just lynching me tomorrow.

Luna these can't be legit fears.

[A Song of Ice and Fire]

You aren't thinking if you think I would honest claim scum in response to a factional claim.

Like I am either isolation faction or town vampire faction. There is no mystical 3rd option.

I am thinking in a game with these confusing wincons and role pm's your tried to show your faction is town.

it doesn't make sense at all. if your lieing about it or not I see that faction as scum

~Ice

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Like, if Expedience is scum I'm going to be really sad because right now they're being one of the few voices of reason in a clusterfuck of willful ignorance.

-Nahdia

LLD is a much better lynch than Salt Squad because LLD's claim is bullshit and Salt Squad sound more genuine, and actually have a good claim.

I think the fact that they expect the individual vampire conversion redacted part on Kuroi's rolecard to confirm them as town is a towntell.

It's so odd that today I completely agree with Expedience and think he's the most reasonable person on this table.

-Nahdia

my claim isn't even fucking...

whatever

I mean, I'm thinking about it. It seems weird, but I'm not sure I want to vote you based on just that.

-Nahdia

I honestly have no idea why my wincon is different to the individual vapire and human roles that have flipped, I just read what is on my role PM.

I can't argue with you about mechanics I don't understand.

So you figure it out. You know I'm telling the truth about my ability, so like, I get the feeling ina crazy game like this, I'm meant to find people with abilities that are skethcy and they want to hide, so.

OK, well, you actually essentially confirmed me as town to my hood. So really, I should be thanking you. Thanks, friend.

-Nahdia

You guys mentioned a Wulden spy?

Like, can you be explicit about that? like, what info EXACTLY did it say

Cause like, depending on wordings couldn't it jsut refer to having a Wulden (me) who is part of the treaty?

[Salt Squad]

You aren't thinking if you think I would honest claim scum in response to a factional claim.

Like I am either isolation faction or town vampire faction. There is no mystical 3rd option.

I am thinking in a game with these confusing wincons and role pm's your tried to show your faction is town.

it doesn't make sense at all. if your lieing about it or not I see that faction as scum

~Ice

WHY AS SCUM WOULD I NOT HAVE A FAKE CLAIM.
WHY AS ISOLATION SCUM WOULD I BE GIVEN A FAKE CLAIM OF ANOTHER SCUM FACTION.
LIKE COME ON FROZEN.

[mastin2]

You guys are posting like a page a minute at least right now (maybe two pages a minute), and I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I DO need to go to bed earlyish tonight, so...most of the questions I am getting bombarded with will have to wait until tomorrow.

But,

reminders:

-All factions who are in need of a fakeclaim have the

mod-given ability for one

. This would either be given as a

factional

, or a

personal

, ability.
*The former will not flip, but the latter will.
-If a player is not explicitly told in their role PM they have the ability to fakeclaim,

they do not need one

.
-ALL aspects of a role PM

except

factional abilities will flip upon death. And any factional abilities will be marked, very specifically, as "

[REDACTED - FACTIONAL]

".
-I do highly recommend rereading the mechanics post, with the explicit reminder that one of the rules, both in there AND my general ruleset, is that

mechanics trump flavor

.
-This means, as explicitly as I can be:

some who you think may be allies may not be,

AND

some who you think are enemies

may be allies

.

Unfortunately, I DO need to go to bed, soon, so I'm not sure how much more I'll be able to answer until tomorrow, sorry.

[Salt Squad]

-If a player is not explicitly told in their role PM they have the ability to fakeclaim, they do not need one.

SEE

[Salt Squad]

I DO NOT HAVE A FAKE CLAIM THEREFORE I AM NOT A THREAT TO TOWN

[Luna Fox]

Yes LLD, the wording literally makes it explicit that the Wulden (if any) in our hood is a bad guy.
Whether you're part of that Wulden faction or not is another matter entirely and you claiming the exact same win con as us when your race appears to be our enemy is entirely suspicious.

[A Song of Ice and Fire]

WHY AS SCUM WOULD I NOT HAVE A FAKE CLAIM.
WHY AS ISOLATION SCUM WOULD I BE GIVEN A FAKE CLAIM OF ANOTHER SCUM FACTION.
LIKE COME ON FROZEN.

I don't think you used your fake claim cuase you thought you can make us think that faction of yours is town becuase of the way it flipped.

if you were town why the fuck kuroi lied about his race yesterday ?

Who the fuck cnfirmed your an isolated thing? There is no way for an isolated thing to have a FACTIONAL recruit shit

~Ice

[Salt Squad]

I don't think you used your fake claim cuase you thought you can make us think that faction of yours is town becuase of the way it flipped.

if you were town why the fuck kuroi lied about his race yesterday ?

Who the fuck cnfirmed your an isolated thing? There is no way for an isolated thing to have a FACTIONAL recruit shit

~Ice

IF I WAS GIVEN A FAKE CLAIM WHY THE FUCK WOULD I THINK I WAS TOWN.
ARE YOU THINKING RIGHT NOW?

[Almost50]

My target on day 1 was LLD was a wulden.

Fair enough! We can check this out AND Wuldens are the CULT in my mind anyway, so I'm game!

VOTE: LLD

[Stormblade]

Based on Kuroi's flip, he was clearly town, ie the Individual Vampire faction is town.

I do believe Salt Squad is being genuine here especially wrt his defense that he wasn't allowed a fakeclaim.

-Nahdia

[Luna Fox]

Ice
We faction cop'd them and got Isolationist.
That's all.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

My target on day 1 was LLD was a wulden.

Fair enough! We can check this out AND Wuldens are the CULT in my mind anyway, so I'm game!

VOTE: LLD

You haven't read at all.

I am an individual wulden wo wins with the new human treaty.

[A Song of Ice and Fire]

Based on Kuroi's flip, he was clearly town, ie the Individual Vampire faction is town.

-Nahdia

WHY ?

living above all is a town falvor flip ?

or the redacted factional part is what makes it town?!

~Ice

[Expedience]

WHY AS SCUM WOULD I NOT HAVE A FAKE CLAIM.
WHY AS ISOLATION SCUM WOULD I BE GIVEN A FAKE CLAIM OF ANOTHER SCUM FACTION.
LIKE COME ON FROZEN.

I don't think you used your fake claim cuase you thought you can make us think that faction of yours is town becuase of the way it flipped.

if you were town why the fuck kuroi lied about his race yesterday ?

Who the fuck cnfirmed your an isolated thing? There is no way for an isolated thing to have a FACTIONAL recruit shit

~Ice

It says in the OP:

Each faction, if possessing a non-human race, has a one-shot ability to recruit a human to their faction. Emphasis "human". This ability will fail if more than one faction attempts this on the same target. This ability does not work on all humans. Regardless of success or failure, this ability is used up once activated. (The recruiter will be informed if they fail, but not the reason why.) In short, only the unluckiest of humans will get culled. It can happen, though, so be cautious!

If Salt Squad are individual vampire, they are probably town.

[Salt Squad]

@Frozen


IF I WAS GIVEN A FAKE CLAIM WHY WOULD I THINK I WAS TOWN.
ARE YOU THINKING RIGHT NOW?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Yes LLD, the wording literally makes it explicit that the Wulden (if any) in our hood is a bad guy.
Whether you're part of that Wulden faction or not is another matter entirely and you claiming the exact same win con as us when your race appears to be our enemy is entirely suspicious.

Well that's just racist isn't it?

#NotAllWuldens

(In seriousness, I get the feeling that the reason why I'm listed as individual Wulden is because I might be the ONLY ONE and that all the Wuldens are fucking evil so.)

(My assumption is currently I'm a secret miller.)

[Almost50]

Dmitri Damanos, once a mere bandit who had fled from the eastern kingdom, had formed a cult revering the beasts as gods.

This cult, the Wulden

,

Wuldens are the CULT, my friend!