Gistou (Over!)

[Luna Fox]

But hey, since there's a public win condition we can ask the mod right? in the same manner you did?

@Mod: Was Kuroi's win condition a Town win condition?

Simple

[Almost50]

Do we know for a fact that Wulden are Scum?

In my mind we do, but apparently some people disagree, so it looks like we're going to play a big game of survivours!!!!!!!

I beg of you and Fire to trust me at this point. Stormblade, Luna & Copper may (or may not) have one scum in them three, but the other 2 (or all 3) are aligend with us. Also Toog and it Town and it seems like rb might be.

besides: We have no flipped Wuldens, so "maybe" this is the faction that wins win they control 50% of the votes?? (In my mind, eliminating all threats = controlling 50% of the votes for scum. If they control the votes and can kill/recruit at night they're guaranteed to lynch TOWN and then kill/recruit one at night vs "maybe" losing one to a town kill).

But anyway, let's flip the claimed Wulden to see how their win con looks like and then you can decide on who IS Town (in terms of factions) in this game!

[Salt Squad]

Individual Wulden also just claimed to not be informed try again ^_^

I didn't saw their role pm yet , that's not evidence

for all I know a multiple recruit vampire thingi can't be matched with you guys being uniformed.

~Ice

So go lynch LLD then ^_^
Go lynch Luna and StormBlade as well because didn't they claim to have a factional section of there role pm ^_^
Have fun with that ^_^

[A Song of Ice and Fire]

I asked that during the night

she resisted to tell me that

and about dram , its simply unknown , she may be town or scum. I believe I'm leaning scum cause that makes sense

~Ice

[Salt Squad]

@mod would Kuroi have been given a fake claim with his role pm?
If a faction was able to receive a fake claim would this be known in there flip?

[Salt Squad]

Ok if that question won't work maybe mine will.

[Luna Fox]

I asked that during the night

she resisted to tell me that

and about dram , its simply unknown , she may be town or scum. I believe I'm leaning scum cause that makes sense

~Ice

I dont think this game's as simple as Town/Scum as you think it is.

[A Song of Ice and Fire]

So go lynch LLD then ^_^
Go lynch Luna and StormBlade as well because didn't they claim to have a factional section of there role pm ^_^
Have fun with that ^_^

I'm having fun lynching scums

they are to many to be handled at once you know.

plus I'm ay more sure about you atm cuase you kindda claimed scum not them

~Ice

[Luna Fox]

@mod would Kuroi have been given a fake claim with his role pm?
If a faction was able to receive a fake claim would this be known in there flip?

This was already answered tho.
If they have the mod ability to get a role PM, it will flip with them if it's individual, but if it's factional it'd be part of the redacted.

[Salt Squad]

This was already answered tho.
If they have the mod ability to get a role PM, it will flip with them if it's individual, but if it's factional it'd be part of the redacted.

If we know Kuroi had no fake claims that makes him in the win with town camp as his claim is safe to claim and then why would Frozen still be pushing me.

[A Song of Ice and Fire]

I dont think this game's as simple as Town/Scum as you think it is.

I am thinking that my faction is town.

there are alies like titus outside of my faction

there are 3p factions who maybe just wanna live

the rest are multiple scum factions

if you know more tell me about it

~Ice

[Almost50]

No, those are both true. I can't be a serial killer considering you already know I'm either with you or I'm a spy for another faction. Namely, the Wulden faction.

And another Scum Claim! I thought you were UNDEAD like dram was!!!!

[Luna Fox]

This was already answered tho.
If they have the mod ability to get a role PM, it will flip with them if it's individual, but if it's factional it'd be part of the redacted.

If we know Kuroi had no fake claims that makes him in the win with town camp as his claim is safe to claim and then why would Frozen still be pushing me.

As i said.
We dont know coz there was a redacted factional part and if he had the ability it could be there.
And if the ability is there it means you'd have that same ability too.

So in the end we confirm nothing.

[Stormblade]

No, those are both true. I can't be a serial killer considering you already know I'm either with you or I'm a spy for another faction. Namely, the Wulden faction.

And another Scum Claim! I thought you were UNDEAD like dram was!!!!

You misunderstand. The SPY is the Wulden faction. I'm not said Spy.

-Nahdia

[Almost50]

I am Sergius Seneca, Individual Wulden Rolecop.

Spare me the detail, please. Go right to the bottom: What does your win con look like?

[Luna Fox]

I am thinking that my faction is town.

there are alies like titus outside of my faction

there are 3p factions who maybe just wanna live

the rest are multiple scum factions

if you know more tell me about it

~Ice

My win condition both require me and my faction members to survive and to help the humanity treaty.
Which is similar to what flipped with dram's
Which you are reading as scum.
So i'm telling you, that you're wrong.

[A Song of Ice and Fire]

I'm not reading dram as scum

I just I don't know how to read that shit

Kuroi was very likly scum and beeboy is scum with him though

thats where I wanna push

[Luna Fox]

Kuroi was very likly scum and beeboy is scum with him though

Nope:

Loosely speaking, there is at least one town faction.

They win if all threats to them are eliminated.

Loosely speaking, at least one faction is definitely a scum/mafia faction.

They win if they control 50% of the living.

Now what was Kuroi's win con again? Oh right the top one.

[A Song of Ice and Fire]

huh

[Luna Fox]

Told you this game wasnt as easy as you thought ^_^

[Luna Fox]

Not to mention the important part

AT LEAST ONE TOWN FACTION

.
Meaning possibly more than one, as what we've seen so far.

[A Song of Ice and Fire]

still I want an explanation for how that recruit function works with details.

how an individual faction - if meaning uninformed - can have a factinal ability ?

[Almost50]

IDK I see "other" and 2 shot BP and it doesn't make me think "town"

TBH, it makes sense to me if they have to win with someone else sharing their own win con alive. Unless there's half a dozen of then in the game their chances are dim to survive this WWIII scenario!

[Luna Fox]

still I want an explanation for how that recruit function works with details.

how an individual faction - if meaning uninformed - can have a factinal ability ?

Because all non-human factions do.
It's in the mechanics.
Not scum.

Except for the faction that's specifically out there as a Cult who may or may not have a more powerful culling ability.

[Stormblade]

@ASOIAF

Furthermore, on their recruit, I had an issue with it at first too. But it's not that crazy when you think about it.The factional vampire recruit works thus:

There are a certain number of vampires. They do not know who each other are, or how many there are. Each of them can recruit one extra vampire.

Their extra recruits are plainly balanced by the fact that they 1) Don't have a PT with all other members and quite possibly 2) Are likely small in number to start.

It's not unreasonable.

-Nahdia