Gistou (Over!)

mastin2 · Post Post #5000 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:45 pm

trivia"I'd rather the demon that is openly demonic, than the demon who pretends not to be."

--Hans Pohl.

Thirtieth Votecount

:

(Third Votecount D2)

Lady Lambdadelta - 8 (Wake88, Almost50, Stormblade, Wayward Thinker, Toogeloo, DrippingGoofball, copper223, RAM)

Salt Squad - 3 (davesaz, Cephrir, Klingoncelt)

Wayward Thinker - 2 (Tim, rb)
Klingoncelt - 2 (Salt Squad, A Song of Ice and Fire)
Almost50 - 1 (Lady Lambdadelta)
Wake88 - 1 (No Retreat)
Cephrir - 1 (Nosferatu)
copper223 - 1 (Luna Fox)
RAM - 1 (Expedience)
Expedience - 1 (Mathblade)

Not Voting - 3 (Heartless, TheWayItEnds, RachMarie)

With

24

alive, it takes

13

to lynch.

Day 1's deadline is Wednesday, August 10th, @ 9:00 PM PST: (expired on 2016-08-10 21:00:00).
At deadline,

Lady Lambdadelta

would be lynched.

Extras

Spoiler: Changes from Last Votecount

Last votecount was post 4790, page 192.

Spoiler: Player Votecount History Day 2

Spoiler: Players Voted D2 History

Spoiler: Voting Chronology Day 2

I think I can finally stop ranting and raving and complaining!
Sorry it took so long for this.
I need to get up early tomorrow (we're having my birthday celebration tomorrow rather than on Saturday, which means I need to shower before work, which means getting up extra-early since I take two-hour showers), so that means I only have the time for this one VC before bed.

Hope you can manage by yourselves for most of tomorrow!

A Song of Ice and Fire · Post Post #5001 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:46 pm

I can confirm my location. its other.

but I really don't know what that result suppose to mean.

Klingoncelt · Post Post #5002 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:46 pm

In post 4844, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:Ice head obviously

this is her scum play meta wise

Neither one of you have ever been able to spot my Scum meta. Or my Town meta for that matter.

I'm Undead with Dram's WinCon.

Luna Fox · Post Post #5003 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:47 pm

Happy early birthday mastin!

<<< <3 >>>

Klingoncelt · Post Post #5004 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:47 pm

In post 4846, Almost50 wrote: How do you even know the Wuldens even have a redirector to begin with?? Mastin's post suggest there might be a redirector in game, but not necessarily in your PT and/or in the spy's faction.

Thank you.

A Song of Ice and Fire · Post Post #5005 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:47 pm

In post 5002, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 4844, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:Ice head obviously

this is her scum play meta wise
Neither one of you have ever been able to spot my Scum meta. Or my Town meta for that matter.

I'm Undead with Dram's WinCon.

I saw enough from you to judge you meta wise

your today catchup felt like I'm in saga all over again.

Klingoncelt · Post Post #5006 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:53 pm

In post 4863, MathBlade wrote:
Klingoncelt who spends most of the time interacting with Wake instead of interacting with the thoughts so far and asks for a vote of someone who Wake (I think) has confirmed Northern faction without reasons.

I've know Wake for years from that other site.

(Just saw a couple of interesting posts in the FZ, actually, from a couple of old friends.

)

Klingoncelt · Post Post #5007 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:54 pm

*known

Klingoncelt · Post Post #5008 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:56 pm

In post 4866, rb wrote:
In post 4866, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 4557, Salt Squad wrote:No I am serious Luna claimed cop in her neighborhood to scum.
That means that scum knew who she wanted to confirm so they could redirect her to someone who has the same information as the person she was checking.
Why are you telling people that there's Scum in Luna's 'Hood? Was that confirmed?
Luna herself said it lol.

Mastin said it was

possible

. It's also possible that the spy is on our side, an ally. But Luna couldn't discuss the possibilities with us in the PT, she had to blab everything out here instead.

Klingoncelt · Post Post #5009 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:59 pm

In post 4872, Stormblade wrote:
In post 4864, MathBlade wrote:Stormblade hopping on the LLD wagon without seemingly interacting with the Salt Squad claim makes almost no sense. It seems VERY opportunistic to say the least. It's one of the reasons that I think something funny is going on. But see the thing is I had a town read on them beforehand. It could be possible that Stormblade like the majority of everyone else seems to confuse race and wincon but it contributes to my punting on the Salt Squad bit for now. They said it doesn't 100% indicate it, yet they vote it as if it DOES and don't ask any investigative questions before doing so. They eventually unvote at entertaining the possibility, but if they knew it wasn't 100% indicative why weren't they asking questions first?
Reasonable point, I'll try to explain. Basically, there's a LOT of indication that Wulden are our enemies, especially for me because my faction's "spy" should it exist is Wulden. Basically, the vote was a knee-jerk reaction because I want the Wulden scumteam dead. Not to mention putting pressure on the slot is one way to get them to explain themselves faster, though I can't honestly claim that's what was going through my head. Forgive me if this game has left me frazzled. Once LLD explained themselves and I really thought about it, I backed off. ABR still thinks they're scum though so I guess we're voting there.
-Nahdia

Remember when the US got caught spying on Germany & the UK? True story. Angela Merkel was NOT happy.

Embarrassing, what with our countries being friends and all.

Klingoncelt · Post Post #5010 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:00 pm

In post 4873, Cephrir wrote:
In post 4847, rb wrote:I've come to the conclusion that Luna's faction cop result is not fucked with, Salt Squad really is 'isolationist' - but isolationist doesn't mean scum/cult.

Read about the Individual Vampires - they're outcasts. Read about Kuroi's character Hans Pohl - he's an outcast. They're all
isolated and individual
and hold no particular allegiance to anyone. The 'Individual' factions are somewhat a neutral ground that win with a few different other WinCons. Also, 'isolationism' in political terms is commonly acccepted as meaning that you keep other people's business out of yours and you try to do the best with what you can (roughly speaking).

This all sounds very consistent with the flavour for Individual Vampires/Humans and I'm starting to really think that we've simply been reading isolationist wrong. Luna's result wasn't fucked with - Salt Squad IS an isolationist - but isolationist isn't the cult/scum indicator we thought it was.
The reason the result of isolationist makes salt scum is because they are denying being one.

*stands and applauds*

Klingoncelt · Post Post #5011 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:05 pm

In post 4889, Salt Squad wrote:Klingon what do you lose by lynching me tomorrow.
If this game has a tracker they can just track me and confirm me as scum along with whoever I recruit if I am lying.

Or are you afraid of flipping scum and confirming Luna's cop was messed with?

You're Cult.

We lose a Town or Town-friendly player.

Also you're expecting an UNCONFIRMED Tracker to come to your rescue and out him/herself.

Brilliant.

Klingoncelt · Post Post #5012 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:07 pm

In post 4892, Salt Squad wrote:I think we should all ignore scum Klingon because I am likely being tracked ^_^
If I was scum and needed 1 night action I would just do what Ram said and say isolationist faction was a town faction.

You're likely being tracked?

Really?

Did someone soft that?

Oh - you just made it up.

Okay.

Klingoncelt · Post Post #5013 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:12 pm

[quote="In post 4911,
Klingoncelt is spewing nonsense that she doesn't believe again. Like, what happened to being 100% sure that WT, No Retreat, and I were scum together? It was just hot air.[/quote]

The read

has

changed, slightly...

I'm still certain that the 3 of you are on the same team. I'm not yet convinced it's a Town-friendly team.

<<< I'd fix this if I could figure out what broke. >>>

Klingoncelt · Post Post #5014 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:14 pm

In post 4924, Salt Squad wrote:
In post 4922, Klingoncelt wrote:Actually, neighborhoods can have 0-100% Scum. It's usually random.
100% scum factions are the best :')

Beware those Wake88 games.

rb · Post Post #5015 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:15 pm

In post 4998, copper223 wrote:Genau SS, you are faster than me on the phone, you can hear the glass bending on RB's silly attempts to frame me.

Who's framing who here? You're the one repeating over and over that I'm scum and deflecting questions

Whether you're scum or town this is so dumb it hurts. I'm asking how you apparently know that 90% of Wulden are scum/cult and you're responding with dumb shit that doesn't make any fucking sense whatsoever. Like, a whole bunch of people claimed to be undead and have your wincon? NO SHIT. What else do you think they were gonna claim in your hood?

"Oh hey guys, I'm not unded and I have a different wincon! XD!!"

Your reasoning makes like, zero fucking sense whatsoever.

rb · Post Post #5016 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:16 pm

Everyone in your Hood is gonna claim undead. If there's scum/cult in your hood, they're mod-confirmed to have been given a fake-claim if needed.

There's literally ZERO reason for anyone to automatically think that their hood = aligned with them just because they say they are.

Klingoncelt · Post Post #5017 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:18 pm

In post 4953, Stormblade wrote:Eh. I'm not so sure about Salt. Thinking about it more, this feels like Legend of Zelda beeboy when he was begging for 1 more day to confirm he's town so he could just rolecop someone as scum. He might just be cult wanting to recruit one more person.
-Nahdia

Yeah... why didn't I think of that?

Klingoncelt · Post Post #5018 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:19 pm

In post 4963, rb wrote:I'm pretty sure that Dram's WinCon wins with cult though, unless I'm mistaken.

Klingoncelt · Post Post #5019 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:22 pm

In post 4968, rb wrote:
In post 4965, Klingoncelt wrote:
BTW, since you couldn't be bothered with asking me for my results, Little Miss Team Player:

A Song of Ice and Fire -
Location is Other,
Visited by xxx with a Night Action,
Visited by Klingoncelt and also by yyy, each with a check action
ASIAOF culted/protected then? That might make some sense actually.

No, silly, I checked ASOIAF. These are the results. I'll be posting my results here instead of in the Hood, that place is no longer home.

Klingoncelt · Post Post #5020 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:23 pm

In post 4969, rb wrote:
In post 4967, Stormblade wrote:
In post 4963, rb wrote:I'm pretty sure that Dram's WinCon wins with cult though, unless I'm mistaken.
Err, huh? Aren't you defending LLD..?
-Nahdia
I'm trying to figure out why your apparent WinCon which is the same as Dram's is trying to kill cultists. Like I might be totally wrong but it seems to me that your supposed WinCon doesn't actually care if the cult exists or not.

What?

We have to lynch

somebody...

Klingoncelt · Post Post #5021 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:24 pm

In post 4972, Expedience wrote:Dramonic was part of your PT, right Stormblade?

He was.

rb · Post Post #5022 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:24 pm

In post 5019, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 4968, rb wrote:
In post 4965, Klingoncelt wrote:
BTW, since you couldn't be bothered with asking me for my results, Little Miss Team Player:

A Song of Ice and Fire -
Location is Other,
Visited by xxx with a Night Action,
Visited by Klingoncelt and also by yyy, each with a check action
ASIAOF culted/protected then? That might make some sense actually.
No, silly, I checked ASOIAF. These are the results. I'll be posting my results here instead of in the Hood, that place is no longer home.

I'm asking whether you think ASOIAF being visited is possibly them being culted or protected.

Klingoncelt · Post Post #5023 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:25 pm

In post 4975, copper223 wrote:
In post 4969, rb wrote:
In post 4967, Stormblade wrote:
In post 4963, rb wrote:I'm pretty sure that Dram's WinCon wins with cult though, unless I'm mistaken.
Err, huh? Aren't you defending LLD..?
-Nahdia
I'm trying to figure out why your apparent WinCon which is the same as Dram's is trying to kill cultists. Like I might be totally wrong but it seems to me that your supposed WinCon doesn't actually care if the cult exists or not.
OK you are also scum.

Didn't you bother reading my case on him?

Klingoncelt · Post Post #5024 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:26 pm

In post 4978, Stormblade wrote:
In post 4973, Expedience wrote:Dramonic was part of your PT, right Stormblade?
Yeah. I miss him
-Nahdia

Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 4743, Luna Fox wrote:Thing is she tried to take control of stuff in the hood and is making me super suspect of her.
Liar.

I tried to get everyone to work together.

I tried to get everyone to work as a team.

Thanks for being a maverick.
You were being kind of really bossy...

Because there were players in there spazzing out over a possible mole... pissed me off.