In post 5111, Luna Fox wrote: In post 5109, davesaz wrote: In post 5082, Luna Fox wrote:I can confirm there's only Undead or Wulden in the PT, but it's in a connotation that includes them as if they are the bad guys/infiltrators. We've all been thinking Wulden is possibly our enemy, I do disagree that necessarily ALL wulden are our enemies.
copper still scum, however.
P-Edit: nice find Ceph.
Have you considered the possibility that all of the PT are race=undead but one or more of them could be a different faction? I believe it goes something like "some you think are allies are actually enemies". And if there are any undead in a scum faction they would have fakeclaims, in particular it would follow that they must have the wincon available to fakeclaim.
It goes both ways, wulden doesn't necessarily imply scum, and undead doesn't necessarily imply town.
I think we should be playing this more like a mafia game, looking for scummy behavior.
pedit: And I got ninja'd on a faction could include multiple races. Oh well, story of this game.
So there's still scum in the hood, your point?
My point is that endlessly discussing the race / location / nation results is not scumhunting. It's useful for generating reactions, but the reaction should be the topic of discussion, not the results. Someone gets outed as xyz, do they flip out, lie about the results, acknowledge the truth, etc? And look at the person doing the outing, is it done to pursue a scumread, throw shade on the game, manipulate people?
In your hood, was anyone especially interested in who you were going to target? If there is a redirector this could lead to them.
Why would scum deliberately redirect you onto someone they know is scum? N1 the only scum they are certain about is themselves. The smart scum move is to let your action go through, because they want you to accidentally find another scum team. If they know who your target will be they may redirect to save a buddy, but your result is something that scum want. Logically your result is accurate because if there were scum in your hood they would want the accurate result. And if it's inaccurate then SS are probably scum anyway, and buddy of the spy.
I haven't ruled out the possibility that you are scum giving a false guilty, but it seems unlikely. You brought up redirection yourself, which would be an easy excuse if your target flips something other than what you reported. But I don't think you're scum from your other actions, because you are not playing guarded like I'd expect. As Math put it, no pants, which to me says likely town. (yes Math, some people are reading your posts). Even so, I never assume my read is accurate until the mod flips it.
Either way, logic says that SS is probably scum, unless you are.