Gistou (Over!)

[mastin2]

trivia

"I do not regret living. I merely regret seeing others who could have lived slowly die."

--Hans Pohl.

Thirty-second Votecount

:

(Fifth Votecount D2)

Lady Lambdadelta - 7 (Wake88, Almost50, Wayward Thinker, Toogeloo, DrippingGoofball, copper223, RAM)

Salt Squad - 6 (davesaz, Cephrir, Klingoncelt, Luna Fox, Expedience, Stormblade)

Wayward Thinker - 2 (Tim, rb)
Klingoncelt - 2 (Salt Squad, A Song of Ice and Fire)
Almost50 - 1 (Lady Lambdadelta)
Wake88 - 1 (No Retreat)
Cephrir - 1 (Nosferatu)
Expedience - 1 (Mathblade)

Not Voting - 3 (Heartless, TheWayItEnds, RachMarie)

With

24

alive, it takes

13

to lynch.

Day 1's deadline is Wednesday, August 10th, @ 9:00 PM PST: (expired on 2016-08-10 21:00:00).
At deadline,

Lady Lambdadelta

would be lynched.

Extras

Spoiler: Changes from Last Votecount

(-2)

Lady Lambdadelta - 7 (Wake88, Almost50,

Stormblade

, Wayward Thinker, Toogeloo, DrippingGoofball, copper223, RAM,

Expedience

)

(+2)

Salt Squad - 6 (davesaz, Cephrir, Klingoncelt, Luna Fox,

Expedience, Stormblade

)

(=0)

Wayward Thinker - 2 (Tim, rb)

(=0)

Klingoncelt - 2 (Salt Squad, A Song of Ice and Fire)

(=0)

Almost50 - 1 (Lady Lambdadelta)

(=0)

Wake88 - 1 (No Retreat)

(=0)

Cephrir - 1 (Nosferatu)

(=0)

Expedience - 1 (Mathblade)

(=0)

Not Voting - 3 (Heartless, TheWayItEnds, RachMarie)

Last votecount was post 5210, page 209.

Spoiler: Player Votecount History Day 2

• Heartless:
  
  
• Klingoncelt:
  Salt Squad===>Toogeloo===>Salt Squad
  
• Salt Squad:
  Wayward Thinker===>Stormblade===>Wayward Thinker===>Stormblade===>Klingoncelt
  
• Almost50:
  Salt Squad===>Lady Lambdadelta
  
• Nosferatu:
  Cephrir
  
• Mathblade:
  Expedience
  
• Wayward Thinker:
  Salt Squad===>Lady Lambdadelta
  
• Stormblade:
  Lady Lambdadelta==>Unvote===>Lady Lambdadelta===>Salt Squad
  
• davesaz:
  Salt Squad
  
• copper223:
  Lady Lambdadelta
  
• Wake88:
  Lady Lambdadelta
  
• Tim:
  Wayward Thinker
  
• No Retreat:
  Wake88
  
• A Song of Ice and Fire:
  Stormblade===>Salt Squad==>Unvote===>Salt Squad===>Stormblade===>Klingoncelt
  
• RAM:
  Lady Lambdadelta
  
• Lady Lambdadelta:
  Stormblade-->Unvote--->Almost50
  
• rb:
  Salt Squad===>Wayward Thinker===>Lady Lambdadelta==>Unvote===>Wayward Thinker===>Stormblade==>Unvote===>Wayward Thinker
  
• Cephrir:
  Salt Squad
  
• Luna Fox:
  Salt Squad--->Lady Lambdadelta-->Unvote--->Salt Squad--->Unvote--->Lady Lambdadelta--->Salt Squad--->rb--->Salt Squad-->Unvote--->Klingoncelt-->Unvote--->copper223-->Unvote--->Salt Squad
  
• Expedience:
  RAM===>Lady Lambdadelta===>>>RAM===>Lady Lambdadelta===>Salt Squad
  
• TheWayItEnds:
  
  
• DrippingGoofball:
  Lady Lambdadelta
  
• Toogeloo:
  Salt Squad--->>Lady Lambdadelta
  
• RachMarie:

Spoiler: Players Voted D2 History

1. Salt Squad:
   17 - Luna Fox, Almost50, A Song of Ice and Fire, rb, davesaz, Luna Fox, Toogeloo, Wayward Thinker, Cephrir, Luna Fox, A Song of Ice and Fire, Luna Fox, Klingoncelt, Klingoncelt, Luna Fox, Expedience, Stormblade
   
2. Lady Lambdadelta:
   14 - Stormblade, Luna Fox, Expedience, Wake88, Almost50, Stormblade, Wayward Thinker, Toogeloo, DrippingGoofball, rb, copper223, RAM, Luna Fox, Expedience
   
3. Wayward Thinker:
   6 - Salt Squad, Tim, rb, rb, Salt Squad, rb
   
4. Stormblade:
   6 - A Song of Ice and Fire, Salt Squad, Lady Lambdadelta, Salt Squad, rb, A Song of Ice and Fire
   
5. Klingoncelt:
   3 - Luna Fox, Salt Squad, A Song of Ice and Fire
   
6. RAM:
   2 - Expedience, Expedience
   
7. Almost50:
   1 - Lady Lambdadelta
   
8. Wake88:
   1 - No Retreat
   
9. Cephrir:
   1 - Nosferatu
   
10. rb:
    1 - Luna Fox
    
11. copper223:
    1 - Luna Fox
    
12. Toogeloo:
    1 - Klingoncelt
    
13. Expedience:
    1 - Mathblade

Spoiler: Voting Chronology Day 2

On Wed, Jul 07/20/16 @ 08:02p,

Salt Squad

Votes

Wayward Thinker

in post 3911.
On Wed, Jul 07/20/16 @ 08:23p,

A Song of Ice and Fire

Votes

Stormblade

in post 3925.
On Wed, Jul 07/20/16 @ 08:02p,

Salt Squad

Votes

Stormblade

in post 3927.
On Wed, Jul 07/20/16 @ 08:24p,

Expedience

Votes

RAM

in post 3929.
On Wed, Jul 07/20/16 @ 08:50p,

Tim

Votes

Wayward Thinker

in post 3959.
On Wed, Jul 07/20/16 @ 09:10p,

Luna Fox

votes

Salt Squad

in post 3996.
On Wed, Jul 07/20/16 @ 09:17p,

Stormblade

Votes

Lady Lambdadelta

in post 4012.
On Wed, Jul 07/20/16 @ 09:19p,

Luna Fox

votes

Lady Lambdadelta

in post 4016.
On Wed, Jul 07/20/16 @ 09:20p,

Lady Lambdadelta

Votes

Stormblade

in post 4019.
On Wed, Jul 07/20/16 @ 09:22p,

Expedience

Votes

Lady Lambdadelta

in post 4023.
On Wed, Jul 07/20/16 @ 09:30p,

Stormblade

Unvotes

(

Lady Lambdadelta

)

in post 4054.
On Wed, Jul 07/20/16 @ 09:30p,

Luna Fox

unvotes

(

Lady Lambdadelta

)

in post 4055.
On Wed, Jul 07/20/16 @ 09:30p,

Wake88

Votes

Lady Lambdadelta

in post 4056.
On Wed, Jul 07/20/16 @ 09:39p,

Lady Lambdadelta

unvotes

Stormblade

in post 4088.
On Wed, Jul 07/20/16 @ 09:39p,

Almost50

Votes

Salt Squad

in post 4090.
On Wed, Jul 07/20/16 @ 09:40p,

A Song of Ice and Fire

Votes

Salt Squad

in post 4092.
On Wed, Jul 07/20/16 @ 09:55p,

rb

Votes

Salt Squad

in post 4132.
On Wed, Jul 07/20/16 @ 10:02p,

davesaz

Votes

Salt Squad

in post 4153.
On Wed, Jul 07/20/16 @ 10:03p,

Luna Fox

votes

Salt Squad

in post 4154.
On Wed, Jul 07/20/16 @ 10:29p,

Almost50

Votes

Lady Lambdadelta

in post 4216.
On Wed, Jul 07/20/16 @ 10:32p,

Luna Fox

unvotes

(

Salt Squad

)

in post 4225.
On Wed, Jul 07/20/16 @ 11:11p,

Stormblade

Votes

Lady Lambdadelta

in post 4303.
On Wed, Jul 07/20/16 @ 11:16p,

A Song of Ice and Fire

Unvotes

(

Salt Squad

)

in post 4311.
On Wed, Jul 07/20/16 @ 11:57p,

Toogeloo

votes

Salt Squad

in post 4325.
On Thu, Jul 07/21/16 @ 01:52a,

Lady Lambdadelta

votes

Almost50

in post 4339.
On Thu, Jul 07/21/16 @ 03:18a,

Wayward Thinker

Votes

Salt Squad

in post 4343.
On Thu, Jul 07/21/16 @ 03:35a,

No Retreat

votes

Wake88

in post 4347.
On Thu, Jul 07/21/16 @ 03:46a,

Wayward Thinker

Votes

Lady Lambdadelta

in post 4352.
On Thu, Jul 07/21/16 @ 04:06a,

rb

Votes

Wayward Thinker

in post 4356.
On Thu, Jul 07/21/16 @ 04:32a,

Toogeloo

unvotes

(

Salt Squad

)

, and votes

Lady Lambdadelta

in post 4359.
On Thu, Jul 07/21/16 @ 05:18a,

DrippingGoofball

Votes

Lady Lambdadelta

in post 4366.
On Thu, Jul 07/21/16 @ 05:25a,

rb

Votes

Lady Lambdadelta

in post 4370.
On Thu, Jul 07/21/16 @ 05:34a,

copper223

Votes

Lady Lambdadelta

in post 4372.
On Thu, Jul 07/21/16 @ 05:46a,

rb

Unvotes

Lady Lambdadelta

in post 4377.
On Thu, Jul 07/21/16 @ 06:40a,

RAM

Votes

Lady Lambdadelta

in post 4398.
On Thu, Jul 07/21/16 @ 07:10a,

Luna Fox

votes

Lady Lambdadelta

in post 4426.
On Thu, Jul 07/21/16 @ 08:08a,

Nosferatu

Votes

Cephrir

in post 4463.
On Thu, Jul 07/21/16 @ 08:32a,

Cephrir

Votes

Salt Squad

in post 4486.
On Thu, Jul 07/21/16 @ 08:33a,

Luna Fox

votes

Salt Squad

in post 4488.
On Thu, Jul 07/21/16 @ 08:55a,

rb

Votes

Wayward Thinker

in post 4540.
On Thu, Jul 07/21/16 @ 09:15a,

Salt Squad

Votes

Wayward Thinker

in post 4582.
On Thu, Jul 07/21/16 @ 09:27a,

Salt Squad

Votes

Stormblade

in post 4602.
On Thu, Jul 07/21/16 @ 09:34a,

A Song of Ice and Fire

Votes

Salt Squad

in post 4618.
On Thu, Jul 07/21/16 @ 09:38a,

rb

Votes

Stormblade

in post 4627.
On Thu, Jul 07/21/16 @ 09:42a,

Luna Fox

votes

rb

in post 4632.
On Thu, Jul 07/21/16 @ 09:43a,

A Song of Ice and Fire

Votes

Stormblade

in post 4633.
On Thu, Jul 07/21/16 @ 09:58a,

rb

Unvotes

Stormblade

in post 4669.
On Thu, Jul 07/21/16 @ 10:03a,

Luna Fox

votes

Salt Squad

in post 4677.
On Thu, Jul 07/21/16 @ 10:14a,

rb

Votes

Wayward Thinker

in post 4696.
On Thu, Jul 07/21/16 @ 10:32a,

Luna Fox

unvotes

(

Salt Squad

)

in post 4710.
On Thu, Jul 07/21/16 @ 10:34a,

Luna Fox

votes

Klingoncelt

in post 4715.
On Thu, Jul 07/21/16 @ 10:45a,

Salt Squad

Votes

Klingoncelt

in post 4725.
On Thu, Jul 07/21/16 @ 10:57a,

Luna Fox

unvotes

(

Klingoncelt

)

in post 4740.
On Thu, Jul 07/21/16 @ 11:07a,

Luna Fox

votes

copper223

in post 4749.
On Thu, Jul 07/21/16 @ 01:52p,

Expedience

Unvotes

Lady Lambdadelta

, and Votes

RAM

in post 4792.
On Thu, Jul 07/21/16 @ 03:27p,

Expedience

Votes

Lady Lambdadelta

in post 4806.
On Thu, Jul 07/21/16 @ 08:24p,

Klingoncelt

Votes

Salt Squad

in post 4834.
On Thu, Jul 07/21/16 @ 08:49p,

Klingoncelt

Votes

Toogeloo

in post 4841.
On Thu, Jul 07/21/16 @ 08:51p,

A Song of Ice and Fire

Votes

Klingoncelt

in post 4843.
On Thu, Jul 07/21/16 @ 09:50p,

Mathblade

Votes

Expedience

in post 4863.
On Thu, Jul 07/21/16 @ 09:55p,

Klingoncelt

Votes

Salt Squad

in post 4868.
On Fri, Jul 07/22/16 @ 07:22a,

Luna Fox

unvotes

(

copper223

)

in post 5091.
On Fri, Jul 07/22/16 @ 08:20a,

Luna Fox

votes

Salt Squad

in post 5142.
On Fri, Jul 07/22/16 @ 05:17p,

Expedience

Votes

Salt Squad

in post 5214.
On Fri, Jul 07/22/16 @ 05:20p,

Stormblade

Votes

Salt Squad

in post 5216.

Gonna celebrate soon, so this'll be the last VC for a while.
Double-check it please to make sure it's accurate though.

[Luna Fox]

however in that case shouldn't i be getting "Individual Faction" not "Isolationist"?

[Klingoncelt]

I think you need to chill Klingy.

Please don't think, Luna, it's too much work for you.

[MathBlade]

however in that case shouldn't i be getting "Individual Faction" not "Isolationist"?

Maybe it is part of a broad collective that means alone. Without known teammate. The fact is you claimed a guilty on a slot without knowing the mechanics behind it and now everyone is starting to go towards that lynch. Your entire hood has been spilling its guts and because of that no one has scum hunted or tried to figure out this treaty.

The other part is you could be right. They might be cult. It could be something weird other than those. However then there is the also lingering doubt if a spy in the PT. If I take your assumption at face value then

ALL

information from the hood is suspect.

And that is why if you think Salt Squad is scum or cult or something weird I would welcome a scum case and I will listen. But the more you spout information the less I care and the more I want to lynch in the hood.

[Klingoncelt]

*fixed, I hope

I share Dram's win condition.

I don't know anything about treaties.

I do know that Alexis Galenos was the heroine and Dmitri Damanos was evil.

If you were to flip, would you have redacted factional information?

Umm, yeah, I'm in a PT.

[MathBlade]

VOTE: Unvote

While I try to figure out which of the goddamn heads is most likely scum so we can have a goddamn Mafia game.

[Klingoncelt]

I was the first to suggest copping within the PT.

You suggested circular scanning assuming everyone was investigative...
Which again how does that help us figure out anything?
You seemed to assume everyone was factional cop like me, obviously the idea would be shot down.

[MathBlade]

Now if someone has an actual case other than "Wulden" on LLD or "Isolationist" on Salt Squad bring it.

Let's discuss reads. But if you don't post a case or your case is "sheep" your vote is shit.

There is no "looming deadline" there is no reason to dogpile like this. We should be trying to figure out this treaty. Slowing down. Analyzing and thinking.

[Klingoncelt]

Here is the problem. The entire day has been about "information" (reason for quotes later) instead of analysis. It is that "information" that people are sheeping. Yet the entire PT says that they don't trust the people in the PT. by consequence it means I do not trust the "Information" that has been shared in this thread.

Now the entire thread has been taken up with discussions of information over trying to read people. In regards to Luna especially for all the worry you have about there being a Wulden in your PT so you look to the main thread for help and out powers and some such. But you are not interacting with each other very much in the thread so we can help you find it and get reads off of it.

Instead after several pleas of "Hey don't claim" the group outs that they are undead and that there is a watcher with certain results. At best this is clogging up discussion of who to believe and who not to and is stopping actual read progression, and at worst all of y'all are scum and just spewing shit to see who reacts to what to know who has to go. Either way I see none of you trying to figure out what the win con means or suggesting ideas.

Speaking of which FoS Wake for wanting people to say a certain three letter word for a potential cult leader. That seems very odd. Also for not wanting to read it he is borrowing some of those ideas. 4828

Like I don't see much "helping a human treaty". The entire hood is toxic and I think in order to allow scumhunting we lynch within it. IMHO there is no way a "faction cop" a 2 shot BP a watcher and if dram was in there whatever they were since it is gone are all town. I don't see that.

Furthermore the undead had a person who could check Race in their flip. Wouldn't a faction cop that also included race be more op than the original race check? Then it would be a wincon and a race cop in one. Instead no one is thinking, slowing down and analyzing and trying to balance reads with that information. Quite frankly I am sick of it.

@Wake -- In my humble very strong opinion there are some people with North East West and Other that are all a part of the treaty but which parts. I would not go down the path you are thinking. You are still IMHO trying to use a certain element to break the game. If nation or location could break the game and every player picked that as pregame stuff then that would be ridiculous. Stop fishing and read my posts. I swear if you look hard enough you may find nachos. You get a huge FoS for wanting even more people to claim while I am trying to give away pants.

Yeah, Math this post was completely unhelpful.

I do better working with a group, sharing info and working out theories.

Luna said she doesn't like Hoods and has effectively ruined ours. So I'm putting whatever info I have out here in the game thread.

Would it make more sense to keep it to myself?

Absolutely not.

There are players more than happy to lynch me, and no doubt some would love to NK me.

It's better that the info is out here where it can be used, than sitting with me in a nonfunctional, paranoid neighborhood, or, worse yet, the Dead Thread.

[Wake1]

Speaking of which FoS Wake for wanting people to say a certain three letter word for a potential cult leader. That seems very odd. Also for not wanting to read it he is borrowing some of those ideas. 4828

LMFAO.

What are you talking about?

I literally didn't read your wall, either.

[MathBlade]

Really?? How does knowing the race of the majority of not all of the people in the hood help?

Working with a group is fine. But in a non bastard game with a watcher role you don't start D2 off with "I am a watcher!! Here are my results." IMHO the same is more true here. If it dies then the info dies. I value analysis over information.

And what people are doing is not helpful. If you want to put yourself

AND

scumhunt it wouldn't be bad. But the fact of the matter is all the information is tainted from the hood so I have to build reads to see what I believe and what I don't and when that hood decides to be fucking brain dead and just stick their arms out and moan "INFOooooooooo" I can't get reads.

This game is not "claim and break". Mastin said it wasn't. What makes each piece of information worth your life? If sharing it isn't worth your death keep it under wraps.

[MathBlade]

*Sigh*

*Lays back in a hammock, grabs a beer, and quietly holds a message about the existence of an SK-sounding entity*

I'll have to wade through 30 pages to find out, won't I?

Not unless you use the power of the 3-letter word.

Here Wake. Anyone can find certain special characters. It makes me wonder what the power of that three letter word is. And why the hell you would want anyone to say it.

[Wake1]

OK Mathblade we're gonna play a game. One word at a time.

____
| . .|
O . |
. . .|
. . _|__


_ _ _

[Wake1]

And by word, I mean letter.

[MathBlade]

Rhymes with corn on the cob. You SOB.

[Wake1]

Try again.

[MathBlade]

The letters b o and m were italicized. Backwards that rhymes with Corn on the Cob. Gasp! Math can read.

[MathBlade]

Now let's play Mafia instead of hangman. K? Let's find scum. FoS remains.

[Wake1]

But you wanna know what that word is, right?

Or you don't because it's just something to latch onto because you're Scum.

Come on, you wanted to know, so come out and embrace who you are superstar.

[Wake1]

There's no 'Z.'

You've got a lead.

[MathBlade]

But you wanna know what that word is, right?

Or you don't because it's just something to latch onto because you're Scum.

Come on, you wanted to know, so come out and embrace who you are superstar.

I don't give two shits about a word because it is a word. I care about why you are wanting someone to say "word" before answering their damn questions. In an F2F game that I was playing there was a cult and anyone who said a certain phrase for culted. So yes when someone asks for a three letter word and has crumbed a three letter word I get a little paranoid of what happens if I say it.

What I want is to have a goddamn game of Mafia. Not what ever this thread has dissolved into.

[MathBlade]

What I do want to know are your reads and where they stand.

[Wake1]

I'll let you choose 2 letters at the same at.

Go on, it's OK.

[Wayward Thinker]

Suz~
Catching up now~

I hate the kind of teasing you are doing wake...derails game ideas with foolish guessing

[Wake1]

Mathblades's behaving foolishly over a 3-letter word almost every Scummer knows. There's a reason why I'm poking her over this.