Gistou (Over!)

[Nosferatu]

/confirm

I really don't get why molla's "making someone else's chances of being converted much more probable" is major cause for concern.

Assuming equal chance, literally went from 3.5% to 3.7%. The only way I see it can be that big of a deal, was if you were planning to recruit molla, which wouldn't make sense seeing as the game hasn't even started yet unless you want his role or something.

[Nosferatu]

/confirm

I really don't get why molla's "making someone else's chances of being converted much more probable" is major cause for concern.

Assuming equal chance, literally went from 3.5% to 3.7%. The only way I see it can be that big of a deal, was if you were planning to recruit molla, which wouldn't make sense seeing as the game hasn't even started yet unless you want his role or something.

^ obviously can't round decimals or consider the fact that a cult wouldn't convert themselves

oh I'm sorry. 3.6%, not 3.5%. Thank you for making me reconsider so much in my life, I feel like I'm more efficient already. Thank you for letting the point of the post fly over your head at mach fucking 5.

[Nosferatu]

/confirm

I really don't get why molla's "making someone else's chances of being converted much more probable" is major cause for concern.

Assuming equal chance, literally went from 3.5% to 3.7%. The only way I see it can be that big of a deal, was if you were planning to recruit molla, which wouldn't make sense seeing as the game hasn't even started yet unless you want his role or something.

It's not nonsensical, it's clearly a suboptimal play from molla. And I believe Tim's point is that town should want to hold on to whatever utility their role has even if it's not very much -- I know that's how I play as well.

This is some goofy-ass mudslinging.

how has molla's role lost utility from what he's done so far?

[Nosferatu]

/confirm

I really don't get why molla's "making someone else's chances of being converted much more probable" is major cause for concern.

Assuming equal chance, literally went from 3.5% to 3.7%. The only way I see it can be that big of a deal, was if you were planning to recruit molla, which wouldn't make sense seeing as the game hasn't even started yet unless you want his role or something.

It's not nonsensical, it's clearly a suboptimal play from molla. And I believe Tim's point is that town should want to hold on to whatever utility their role has even if it's not very much -- I know that's how I play as well.

This is some goofy-ass mudslinging.

how has molla's role lost utility from what he's done so far?

0.1% chance of his human town teammates getting culted.

but the issue wasn't about culting, pretty sure it was that any faction can recruit a non-human, and by claiming non-human, all of the factions know not to target him.

[Nosferatu]

I want to talk about percentages again.

y

I want to talk about percentages again.

70% chance Luna Fox will call you scum for this post

If Luna calls me scum for this post, there's a 42% chance she's scum.

If Luna is scum, that means a 67% chance that Exped is also scum.

If Exped is scum, there's a 91% chance that Ceph is Town.

What's the percentage possibility of being culled again?

what a god tbh

[Nosferatu]

most of the times I've played with FA she was hydra'd with RC so in my mind that was instantly a scum-until-copped slot so I'm not very skilled at reading her either, although she does look town here :/

[Nosferatu]

Im kinda p.bad at reading fire so that doesnt help me in the slightest knowing that FA has a godlike scumgame.
I'll just follow my heart

reading fire is easy

if he spams thread and buddies, he's town.

if he spams thread and trolls, he's scum.

hasn't failed me yet.

[Nosferatu]

do you know you're town now? if so, how?

Reactions to my fullclaim

I would've figured from your role pm kek

[Nosferatu]

pedit — dram is scum? this gets even better

how do you figure?

do you know you're town now? if so, how?

Reactions to my fullclaim

I would've figured from your role pm kek

nope my role pm didn't specify I was town, did yours?

maybe I am scum

well technically, there is no scum since everyone wins with their faction. But you said before you didn't have a nightkill right? In my eyes that's town.

do you know you're town now? if so, how?

Reactions to my fullclaim

I would've figured from your role pm kek

perhaps he doesn't have the benefit of having a fake role pm to look at

egocentricity son

what a god.

[Nosferatu]

Quick question... my PM is in a quote, quoted by someone's name I don't recognize, is this just mine? And should I say the name to see if anyone else recognizes it?

it's flavor.

[Nosferatu]

my brain is trembling

[Nosferatu]

took me like 4 posts to get myself lynched in denmark maf

[Nosferatu]

took me like 4 posts to get myself lynched in denmark maf

tbf u amished tell'd pretty hard

I mean yeah, but I didn't even fucking know that was a tell. Not on the wiki or anything man. The dead thread was talking about how I should've just claimed scum kek

[Nosferatu]

I want to talk about percentages again.

whyyyyy
Well percentages of someone being scum due to some weird math is fine, i just dont get the benefit of discussing chances of being culted, when the only ones interested in that would be the cult recruiters.

@Heartless, Yeah, not really. If Frozen is scum, I don't get the town feels. I got the feels. I am pretty good at reading Frozen. I'm pretty sure they are town. Sorry that you cannot read them as well or are scum. I am Madam Grumpy with a cold and they are obvtown.

Here's where you get all hyper about Frozen being town...

I haven't disliked anything you have done Frozen but I am not confident in my ability to read you because I have seen you play as scum I think 4 time or some large number and I town read you every time so I think I need to figure out a different method to read you.
~Bee

I guess that's fair enough.

Titus your a weird player. I appreciate your town read though we need to talk about how you did this if its ok with you. I'm really interested to know.

@bins your not saying anything that we wanna discuss it with you, catch up so we can talk

~Ice

Frozen cannot fake that type of emotion as scum. Never seen it. People thought she did in NY 191 but nope.

Then you justify it in this later post, instead of...

That's all you can find because you're scum and incapable of reading, all you can do is see.

Yes, I am siriously threatening you with my vote.

My normal response to this kind of shitty behaviors is to say "Fuck off"

I won't respond to it anyway cuase I'm done getting force replaced for people like you corning me and making me toxic.

so ....

Hi town. (Hugs)

This one.

---

I'm not calling you scum for it. NOW, I can see your point. But at a skim, it doesn't read as genuine.

It's easier for me to understand reasoning for town when the content being used to explain that read was made prior to the read itself.

VOTE: House

First, I can barely breathe with this cold. I ain't getting hyper about shit.

Second, you come across as more of a whiner here tat there's nothing to pick at so you complain that I didn't say so immediately.

Again, that's not what I said at all.

I said it struck me odd that you used a post made after the fact to explain your read instead of referencing the post your read was based on.

At a skim (y'know, without going to the hassle of reading back), it looks like you grasped for a reason to townread her after being called on it.

My complaint about you is not over function, but form. Help me read you easier by referring to the source of your reads in your explanation of those reads.

I think you've misunderstood Titus's posts and I'm pretty sure I know the mistake you've mad, but I'd rather let this whole feud go on and see what happens

[Nosferatu]

*made

[Nosferatu]

74 quoted 72 in which Frozen showed some emotion.
273 talks about emotion.
Seems pretty straightforward to me. I don't understand why it's a big deal...
Even 263 still fits in, if nothing changed in "the feels" in those ~190 posts since 74.

Now whether that little bit is worth a town read, is a completely different matter. I certainly wouldn't call someone town that easily... but I'm not liking the Cane+Able approach of casting it as a retroactive explanation.

Fucking... you too?

My entire POINT was that I thought she should have USED 74 IN THE FIRST FUCKING PLACE, you illiterate clown.

I'm just wondering: you are aware that

you

are the person who fucked up here, right?

@Titus: why are you still pushing your view that he lied when he admitted his mistake all the way back in 397?

You guys are both so weird.

I don't like Titus's 444. It seems intentionally antagonistic when it's plain to see the mistake house made in 442, not even mentioning the main argument, which he resolved on his part ages ago and reiterated several times. Seems like she's trying to lean on him to make him crack.

[Nosferatu]

@Titus: why are you still pushing your view that he lied when he admitted his mistake all the way back in 397?

Did you link the wrong post? This leads to a Titus post replying to Salt.

379, messed up the order of digits.

[Nosferatu]

How is 379 admitting his mistake, particularly when he kept pushing on it?

"I'm not calling you scum for it. NOW, I can see your point. But at a skim, it doesn't read as genuine."
The grammar might be throwing you off here, which I can understand, but he's trying to say that when he skimmed through, it didn't read as genuine, but when he looked at your ISO he could see the context, and that it wasn't scummy.

Dav - for being so proactive so early/

pointing things out that he doesn't need to

I wasn't really paying attention to dav, but from just the bolded, he's scummy af. Why do you find that townish?

I just see Nos as trying push things, which is unlike dav where it looks like he is just trying to keep as factual as possible. I like dave as Town here because I read his pointing out the truth of the matter as him trying to solve the game either directly or indirectly. Nos just seems like they are trying to push their opinion more which is what I am seeing as the difference.

I don't see myself as doing that, but that's irrelevant. How is pushing my opinion scummy?

[Nosferatu]

Good evening everyone. LicketyQuickety, could you please point out what really does matter thus far?

hey there wake

and let the walls begin

[Nosferatu]

Not a fan of the Nos scumread though. If anything Nos is more active than normal.

Well normally I would've not posted much in pregame, but last game with a pregame that I did that in, I kinda got left behind, and that's not a very good idea with the players we've got here, especially with all the hydras and all.

pedit: luna don't fucking post when I'm typing goddamnit
pedit2: I blanked out and only read the last 3 words and I'm very interested in what you have to say now

[Nosferatu]

VOTE: titus

[Nosferatu]

Actually I like this better
VOTE: expedience

[Nosferatu]

VOTE: Nosferatu

Naked vote. Explain please.

Probably voted me since he's been calling me scum just about every other post?

[Nosferatu]

fuck man can't even sleep

[Nosferatu]

I caught up. Used the same method as in Third Fortnight, since that was ok.

Spoiler: thing

page 25
idk how you have a townread on heartless on grounds of him efforting when he hasn't done anything yet.

ye ye we get it nahdia is town we know
her reason d is the same as why I voted him tbh

I'll start using post numbers here, cbb to go back for other ones
page 26: expedience is getting kek'd on
#627- copper why the fuck are you talking about scummy shit heartless is done and not saying anything
like "ye his opening post is scummy, you'll see when you stop propping him up lul" wtf?
#629- the %s are obvious fucking bullshit, pls try harder
#630- ceph is so mean
#635- I used to fucking spam threads fyi

page 27: everyone lookin at LQ now
#650- so does he just not post as scum? Any links?
#651- if you have a lot of meta on him you should know he's probably joking with the %s
#658- why the fuck do people get drunk and start posting on mafiascum? I'd imagine you'd be doing other things lol
#660+4- it's certainly not the best but I wouldn't call it super scummy

page 28: these votecounts are amazing
#676- everytime someone does moonlogic shit it reminds me of my mom cause she does it too, so I'm going to refer to moonlogic as momlogic from now on
#688- more like everyone is shoving him behind the jokes to shield him from all the bad things in the world.
#692- I'm going to go ahead and tell you your feeling is wrong based on the fact that I'm townreading song.
#694- I don't get it.

page 29: I think? I skipped a page.
#716- oh ok I get it now
#717- excited to see reasons for this two pages from now
#723- I don't like this post, it seems like an intentional gross oversimplification of the point earlier made.

page 30: Read city this page
#725- I caught dave for the same reason in one game, but I don't see that here.
#727- At just looking at this I'm in a questioning mood, but idk what to ask so fuck it
#735- Makes sense to me
#738- I don't get it.
#740- From what I've seen/read, as scum he asks stupid + pointless questions and doesn't do shit with it the whole game, but as scum he asks relatively pointless questions and occaisionally does shit with it.
despite me not scum reading his questions, not liking dave hiding behind his playstyle tho.
#747- lol what

page 31: I can't think of a quippy thing here.
#750- I find it pretty illogical that you would start to connect dots when there aren't very many confirmed dots in the first place. It's expecting people to look for pre-flip associatives without a proper foothold in the game, when a lot of people don't even like to look for pre-flip associations well into the game.
#755- examples of such cognitive dissonance in beeboy?
#757- ye ok you're probably town that's cool
#771- what
#774- I don't get it

page 32: lol what
#775- are you actually basing a townread off of your confidence that your sister is always wrong? lmao what?
#784- did you talk about your own post in the 3rd person here? lol what?

page 33: I don't find this page very important at all.

page 34: people don't like expe wagon now apparently
#828- why
#848- so thirsty lol
#845- so copper didn't scumread heartless? I'm confused here.

page 35: [insert quip here]
#859- return of the lol what
#863- are you unaware of the fact that other people can in fact joke?
#865- shit ok you were serious, nvm then.
page 36: FA is towning it up again
#885- I like this.

page 37: I feel like I forgot something last page but I can't remember
#918- terribad.
#928- I don't get it.
#923- town rage.

page 38: I'm running out of shit to say for these page titles
#932- How is WT town?
#935- I don't like something about this but idk.
#936- I like this post.

page 39: ye dram is town
#950- HOLY FUCK WHY DO YOU DO THIS.
A50 is probably town because of this stupid shit, I don't remember him doing it as scum.
#996- this isn't even a read list

page 40: a wild skybird appears
#979- the good jokes never die
#999- dram nooo

page 41: doubts
#1002- I knew it lmao
#1012- I'd like your team better if song wasn't in it.
#1020- shed your quips onto me

page 42: ceph is a self-proclaimed savage
#1032- pure fucking savagery. No other comments.
#1048- ye we noticed

page 43: I posted here so we stop.

I've read way too much for now so I'll come back later, and if there's 20 more pages I'm not fucking reading it.

[Nosferatu]

It's disturbing that you guys can read these posts and think Expe's scum and not deranged town. You guys ableist or something?

How dumb do you to think he is, to do the shit he's doing and still be town?

[Nosferatu]

What am I missing? WHY would a non-town-aligned PGO claim?? His faction should already be aware of his ability and that is all that matters to them! Why warn "all humans"?

Expected response: It's a fake claim to deter investigative town roles away.

response to response: So the other non-human faction(s) all don't have PRs?? Because he did specify HUMANS not to target him.

Final conclusion: He's scum "regardless". << remember this Nahdia? Cerb? beeboy (Oh, probably not you)? Who else was there though? KC, oh, DRAM (if you were paying attention to the posts in your game). I wouldn't expect Heat to remember anything, and Cakez joined much later.. who else? Yeah Nos, EP (you MUST recall this), Frozen, TWIE & Molla. Oh, Fire too.. you were there.. kind of!

I think I know why Peregrine likes to lurk in all his games regardless though. I'm slowly coming to that feeling where I want to read and not respond, or just fly under the radar for most of the game and only start playing when it's close to LyLo.

More votes on me, please. Let's get it over and done with.

I don't get it

[Nosferatu]

It's disturbing that you guys can read these posts and think Expe's scum and not deranged town. You guys ableist or something?

How dumb do you to think he is, to do the shit he's doing and still be town?

please stop.

No Retreat is town, maybe Heartless but less so.

Almost50 I think is town. I do find his reads a bothersome, but I think he believes what he's saying in 1339. The confidence is probably real from my experience playing with him. His claim is townie, I don't think he'd immediately say something like that as scum.

Not insulting you, but I really don't think you can handwave all the shit you've done so far, and just be like: "he's a VI/deranged/dumb/whatever".

[Nosferatu]

FUCK

[Nosferatu]

I fucked up not getting in a hydra tbh

[Nosferatu]

ok so is there a sort of case on kuroi or should I just ISO?

[Nosferatu]

Spoiler: great Wt post that got things moving

I can't believe we found scum before the game even began...

Who did you find?

I can't believe - not as in "Oh boy, I can't believe I'm going to my first baseball game!" but more as in, I can't believe in a sincere way.

Super generic reasoning.

VOTE: copper

Going to bed now. Prepared to wake up to 20 pages more

Just votes with no explanation then leaves. Why do this?

well this is going.

someone tell me who to vote.

Wayward.

~Bee

vote: wayward

cool.

VOTE: TWIE

You need to die if you can't think for yourself.

Says they are voting someone for not thinking of their own reasons, but hasn't once provided their reasoning on anything this game.

Fucking Nahdia.

What does this accomplish?

You can read me however you like, but don't call it a bad vote when it's not, considering the early stage of day one.

It clearly is a bad vote cuz your reason sucks.

Vote: Almost

I'll sheep that.

God damn it. Stop sheeping and start thinking.

Why is sheeping such a bad thing? Do you think Almost is Town?

*still waiting on why I'm such a good lynch to No Retreat* Or maybe he already retreated. lol

How about cuz you've done shit all game?

Why are people voting? This game hasn't even started, have they?

I can't believe we found scum before the game even began...

I didn't much like either of these posts. I know we've talked a little about the second one but why in the world would you say that...like whats the point?

You also voted TWIE for sheeping but not Luna so that's p strange. Other than that you don't really have anything. So why should I not want your head on a pike?

You know I can't vote more than one person at once, right?

Hardy har har.

VOTE: KuroiXHF

First off, a three-person Hydra? I just realized this. Fucking what?

Strong Town:
Lean Town: Dramonic, Almost50, Cane and Able, Tim, ASOIAF, RAM, Expedience
Null/Unsorted: Klingoncelt, Titus, Nosferatu, Stormblade, davesaz, Copper, Lady L, RB, Goofball, BBMolla, Toogeloo, Franky
Lean Scum: Heartless, Salt Squad, No Retreat , Cephrir, TWIE
Strong Scum: Wayward Thinker, Luna

BTW, just realized I'm finally playing a game with my old pal, Nero. Hi Nero!

And yes, my list is really undeveloped. I'm aware.

Underdeveloped my ass

You have Luna as scum, C and A as strong town, me as null, no retreat as scum, heartless as scum and despite Math chainsawing the fuck for you, you forgot she exists

It's just garbage. Total garbage.

No Retreat is scummy, I don't have an opinion on you this game. You're annoying as fuck, but that's NAI. Fine, I forgot about Math because there are a lot of players, Luna screams scum but I'm reviewing her soon, and I strong read no one.

No opinion..really? After gunslingers you have no opinion on me?

After this interaction, I'd now put you at leaning scum.

Context: in Gunslingers, I tunnelled and nailed him hard as scum.

Honestly in a game this large i dont find it unlikely to miss a claim.... HOWEVER what has been said as me being one of their biggest scumreads = they should be paying more attention to my posts is true.

Vote: Kuroi

Missed the claim of his alleged biggest scumread.

For Nos

ehh, I don't think this case is particularly strong, nor do I get scum vibez from Kuroi's ISO. I don't think he'll flip scum.

[Nosferatu]

I have changed my mind on Kuroi and Expedience. I still have Kuroi on my Scum list, but

he''s not paired with Expedience, WT, and No Retreat.

He's on a different team.

Kuroi still looks like the counterwagon to Wayward.

VOTE: Vote: Wayward Thinker[/vote ]

this

And how the fuck can you have Kuroi on your scum list if you're saying this?

You're just making it up as you go along.

VOTE: Klingoncelt

I really wonder what goes on in that head of yours.

[Nosferatu]

I have changed my mind on Kuroi and Expedience. I still have Kuroi on my Scum list, but

he''s not paired with Expedience, WT, and No Retreat.

He's on a different team.

Kuroi still looks like the counterwagon to Wayward.

VOTE: Vote: Wayward Thinker[/vote ]

this

And how the fuck can you have Kuroi on your scum list if you're saying this?

You're just making it up as you go along.

VOTE: Klingoncelt

I really wonder what goes on in that head of yours.

I wonder for you too. Please share with the class.

scum can form a counterwagon on another scum without knowing? The important thing is that they're not lynching one of their buddies? Fucking incredible notion amirite?

[Nosferatu]

Oh I don't disagree with the notion or the possibility. What I want to see is your reads on the game as a whole. Not just shoot off a post or two and disappear.

I want to stay but it's discouraging when everytime I come back it's another 20 pages. I'm over 60 pages behind right now and I could probably catch up, but it would take a lot of time that I don't really wanna spend. Especially not when I'd had to outpace the rest of you guys, and while I could speedread, my reads wouldn't develop from it and it would make it useless. It's very demotivating tbh.

VOTE: WT

expe wagon is dying for some reason, and this was a close second for me.

[Nosferatu]

Oh I don't disagree with the notion or the possibility. What I want to see is your reads on the game as a whole. Not just shoot off a post or two and disappear.

I want to stay but it's discouraging when everytime I come back it's another 20 pages. I'm over 60 pages behind right now and I could probably catch up, but it would take a lot of time that I don't really wanna spend. Especially not when I'd had to outpace the rest of you guys, and while I could speedread, my reads wouldn't develop from it and it would make it useless. It's very demotivating tbh.

VOTE: WT

expe wagon is dying for some reason, and this was a close second for me.

Why was that wagon a close second? I can understand being demotivated and I am trying to work with people to fix that but if you have a first read and a second read then explain why.

And if a wagon is dying on a wagon you think is scum you should be explaining why.

idk what you mean by a first read? or a second?

[Nosferatu]

Oh I don't disagree with the notion or the possibility. What I want to see is your reads on the game as a whole. Not just shoot off a post or two and disappear.

I want to stay but it's discouraging when everytime I come back it's another 20 pages. I'm over 60 pages behind right now and I could probably catch up, but it would take a lot of time that I don't really wanna spend. Especially not when I'd had to outpace the rest of you guys, and while I could speedread, my reads wouldn't develop from it and it would make it useless. It's very demotivating tbh.

VOTE: WT

expe wagon is dying for some reason, and this was a close second for me.

Why was that wagon a close second? I can understand being demotivated and I am trying to work with people to fix that but if you have a first read and a second read then explain why.

And if a wagon is dying on a wagon you think is scum you should be explaining why.

idk what you mean by a first read? or a second?

You obviously have enough of a read of the game state to have a priority in player lynches

You said so yourself when moving to WT. Therefore I would expect you to post reasons why you think that slot is scum other than just they are your second choice.

First read = top scumread in that context.

I didn't like a lot of WT's posts. I didn't like more of expedience's posts. I didn't like Titus's early game with House, nor did I like her trying to get into setup spec with luna. Right now Expe > WT > Titus, but I will change my vote according to the votecounts which on that note I will check to make sure that WT is in fact the leading wagon of 3.

[Nosferatu]

yeah I thought so.

[Nosferatu]

VOTE: Salt Squad

explain to me how a factional recruit will work with uninformed members in your next post and how is that suppose to mean town or I'm not moving.

~Ice

Everyone in my faction has the ability.
Like it is more of a race thing then anything else I believe.

Did another vampire claim that can corroborate this?

I'm not revealing anything about PR abilities,

b

ut I can check Nations.

Basically, I'm a

N

o

rthern Tribes Human

.

Northern Tribes

Other

Hu

m

an

Anyone else want to claim something, ladies and gentlemen? Feel free!
(And they call ME king of "unnecessary" RC'ing) << See that Frozen??

Ooh ooh! I have one! Cephrir is a nosferatu!

VOTE: Cephir
voting this before anything else because I know this to be true.

Based on the flavor posts, factions with "individual" prefix have a wincon of eliminating threats to the human treaty, and the other factions have a convoluted web of interactions of what they can win with. Also based on flavor, there are 4 factions (wincons) and then a cult.

Right now, I'm thinking the wincons are the followed:

Humans
Win with humans - those with the individual prefix
50% of players - nosferatu
50% of players - wulden
Cult

Thoughts? I'm trying to figure out where the lycans and vampires will fit in here.

[Nosferatu]

Go ahead and Lynch me if you must but nosferatu visited Luna fox and was the only person to do so and Luna fox died overnight

I visited stormblade last night :/

[Nosferatu]

did you kill him or just visit him?

oh ok I can see now, I was redirected, my results don't match storm's flip.

[Nosferatu]

Ok, I guess I've sorta got a hold on what's happened last night. I've got two soft invest abilities. I used both on storm since I figured I'd get the more info that way, but I got redirected to RAM by the looks of it.

They visited Cephrir: Cephrir didn't die, he found out his race was Nosferatu and wanted to lynch him.

I obviously am not at the peak of my comprehension right now, bc I missed:

(a) Nosferatu visiting Cephrir
(b) Cephrir "not" dying!

For both (a) & (b) to be true, one must assume they occured on N1. However, Nosferatu is said to have visited ASoIaF on N1, and now I'm not sure who claimed whom did what!

I used my race on ceph and my other one on song N1, so yeah both are accurate.

[Nosferatu]

VOTE: LLD
L-1 but you knew that already

[Nosferatu]

EXP
RB
Bacade

these are your three scum lynches for the day.

EXP
RB
Bacade

these are your three scum lynches for the day.

Of the three I would most probably go with rb. He had stronger ties with Mathblade. He avoided the Kuroi wagon and ended the day voting WT.

On D2 he also avoided the SS wagon and only voted after it has been hammered (3rd vote AFTER the hammer).

On D3 he ended the day not voting (i.e. also avoided the LLD wagon).

3 different lynches with 3 different factions/alignments and rb was on none of them, and rather than trying to figure out ALIGNMENTS he's desperately trying to figure out ROLES (maybe it's bc his faction is eying me for a recruit or they suspect me for a killing role and want to off me but are afraid of losing their own killer).

This is my case on rb, and thus my vote is on him:

VOTE: rb

I can sheep this

VOTE: rb

[Nosferatu]

yes, lets claim and give scum more information. Stop shit posting.

but if i'm scum how does it give scum more information? ',:^)

I'm so confused by this post

[Nosferatu]

other than no retreat I'm good with like all of these lynches

[Nosferatu]

where did nos disappear to?

sleep.

[Nosferatu]

there's also those games I'm way more involved in

[Nosferatu]

yes, lets claim and give scum more information. Stop shit posting.

but if i'm scum how does it give scum more information? ',:^)

I'm so confused by this post

Don't cult me

the fuck?

omg No Retreat is the cultl leader, kill it

Everyone vote No Retreat to force him to claim, he's way too guarded about that

the fuck??

^^^i like you

what even

Everyone No Retreat has come out pushing is town, including Wake, Bacde, me, rb (who can only be culted town and can't be cult leader most likely)

Therefore, he is scum and you should vote him.

uhh ok taking exp out of my scumspect pool

yeah the individual is a thing and they are allied with town. from what I have seen in the flips.

and your reason for wanting to out me?

Freelo from process of elimination

pedit: he didn't do anything

how the fuck

I had a mod error with one of my reports as well btw. It's a big-ass game where every single player has a night action, some multiple night actions. It's not that unreasonable and I don't think mod error is a good reason to scumread someone.

Instead we should lynch Wayward Thinker or Expedience so we can win the game.

it bothers me that the two people I've been scumreading since D1 are the same targets as probable scum

i race checked dave night 2.

if the result was wulden or nosferatu im just assuming this would have a vote tacked on...?

you assume correctly.

Wait, that doesn't make sense. So davesaz is claiming individual lycan which just happens to have a different wincon to all 3 of the other different "individual" factions. k, he's scum then.

...VOTE: dave

this isn't over

[Nosferatu]

VOTE: tim

yeah tim is too much coasting I can see this really well

VOTE: Tim

what did toog do?

we could lynch toog

Lynch the guy who's been white knighting you! Your whole demeanor has gotten quite rough as of late though, and you're posting without reading evidently. I think I'm done being nice to you, you can sleep in whatever bed you make.

I tried to Bodyguard Luna Night 2. You didn't see me, apparently.

Unvote;
Vote: Tim

what's the origin of this tim wagon? Or am I just this far out of the loop?

dont forget my mason buddy wake, bacde

I'm also confirmed town

When did that happen?

[Nosferatu]

Umm, giving my exact "individual faction" wincon would immediately reveal race, which I didn't want to do. So I chose to paraphrase using a town wincon that would leave scum guessing.
You win when all threats to {redacted} are eliminated.

What you claimed is not something you would claim if you wanted to keep your race hidden. Only the undead have that wincon.

[Nosferatu]

Are you undead nos?

How do you know only undead have that wincon?

because I read the flips?

Wake is my mason buddy he is NOT my twin we do not agree on everything.

uhh Nos Wake and I outted each other about 20 or 30 pages ago I think it was

ok?

[Nosferatu]

??

I don't understand why you think that only ppl who died are the only possible win cons in this game

true, there could be other wincons, but out of the six factions that have flipped, there's only been one that had the human treaty wincon.

[Nosferatu]

OK, I guess there isn't much alternative. My own damn fault for just flippantly answering instead of copy/pasting the redacted version from my PM.

Provided his result wasn't messed with, he got Human for a result.

OK, I guess there isn't much alternative. My own damn fault for just flippantly answering instead of copy/pasting the redacted version from my PM.

Provided his result wasn't messed with, he got Human for a result.

yes i did.

:/

UNVOTE: dave

@people more involved than me: likelihood that there's another redirector/bus driver role extant in the game?

[Nosferatu]

TWIE and Nos I assume your other race checks were not indicating scum and thats becuase you didn't claim them.

That would be correct.

[Nosferatu]

VOTE: WT

Spoiler:

<<< Spoilering this because OW MY EYES. >>>

[Nosferatu]

I think rach/wake nosfertu claims make me suspicious and is not helping me with that case.

rach/wake claimed nosferatu?