Gistou (Over!)

[Wake1]

I'm getting cheeky but hey, 'go fuck yourself' is obviously allowed in these games, so I've been told.

[Wake1]

VOTE: LLD

Surely he's been online?

[Wake1]

Isn't his overly noisy posting in D1/D2 reason enough? Isolationist knew exactly what was going on. Wake -on the other hand- was looking for "a corner in circular room"

Actually he was sorta lurky d1 and d2 I don't really remember anything from him except fear mongering that we have a SK running around.

It's part of the reason why I don't expect much from you.

That level of obstinacy you've got going doesn't typically appeal to my better nature.

[Wake1]

I'm getting cheeky but hey, '

go fuck yourself

' is obviously allowed in these games, so I've been told.

I'm sure you do do that alot.

What's that?

You've got a thrill up your leg?

[Wake1]

Wtf? My win con doesn't say that. If I survive and town (I think) wins my whole faction wins

I believe you. Now check the FOUR Undead who have flipped and compare your win con to theirs. It should b clear to YOU that you've just claimed NOT Undead in the UNDEAD PT, and the ONLY non-Undead that could be in there is a WULDEN (mod-confirmed piece of info), so YOU JUST CLAIMED SCUM, YOU FOOL!

No I didn't dumbass,

It says if at least one person with my win condition survives and town wins I win

That includes me

Have you ever taken a math class?

Basically we're lynching LLD and once she flips Scum and you good Sir somehow survive next Day there's a high likelihood you'll be swaying next.

[Wake1]

Anyone with a Northern Tribes factional wincon is not ever going to lynch me.

That might be true, but I'm afraid you are still voting one of your own.

Am I?

[Wake1]

Were you responding to D2 posts when you confirmed me or did you actually target me with a Nation check? This needs to be addressed as well (it IS important). Thank you.

How was it not obvious that I targeted you with a Nation check?

You're literally the only player thus far who outright claimed Northern Tribes faction besides me.

[Wake1]

What is kinf of bothering, though, is what happens if, say, a Northern Tribes factional gets Culted.

Would they retain their Faction name, but their wincon changes? Or would they change Faction altogether?

Mastin, if you would clear this up when you're ready...

[Wake1]

Wtf? My win con doesn't say that. If I survive and town (I think) wins my whole faction wins

I believe you. Now check the FOUR Undead who have flipped and compare your win con to theirs. It should b clear to YOU that you've just claimed NOT Undead in the UNDEAD PT, and the ONLY non-Undead that could be in there is a WULDEN (mod-confirmed piece of info), so YOU JUST CLAIMED SCUM, YOU FOOL!

No I didn't dumbass,

It says if at least one person with my win condition survives and town wins I win

That includes me

Have you ever taken a math class?

Basically we're lynching LLD and once she flips Scum and you good Sir somehow survive next Day there's a high likelihood you'll be swaying next.

What does swaying mean

If it means leading town then I agree with you

You need only gaze at DEEZ magnificent NUTZ.

In all seriousness go get a dictionary.

[Wake1]

Basically we're lynching LLD and once she flips Scum and you good Sir somehow survive next Day there's a high likelihood you'll be swaying next.

I'm switching to LLD just to please you, Mr! I believe it's 5-5 now, so I'm making it 6-4 (That's LLD-Bacde). If the two Heroes alive follow my advice that would be great, but even if they don't and Bacde is still alive tomorrow they've got my vote on them in spirit already.

VOTE: LLD

Good.

Have a walnut.

I hear it promotes brain cells.

[Wake1]

Wait a minute.

[Wake1]

If bacde watched ASOIAF how did he know Klingon investigated her?

Watchers only learn which player targeted your target: not what the action itself was.

[Wake1]

Were you responding to D2 posts when you confirmed me or did you actually target me with a Nation check? This needs to be addressed as well (it IS important). Thank you.

How was it not obvious that I targeted you with a Nation check?

You're literally the only player thus far who outright claimed Northern Tribes faction besides me.

Because I BLOODY told you the COLOUR of the PM before you even disd yourself, and I did it PRECISELY to keep YOU in the light! You're NOT READING ANYTHING I SAY, my friend.

HOWEVER, the fact that you DID visit me and are still alive confirms you as a Northern Tribes Faction member (there's some good in your goofy play after all). I deliberately left that part out so as to use it on people who would claim to have targeted me.

I'm a PGO, but my ability activates on everyone who is NOT of my own faction. I had hoped someone would claim they visited me and got something different so I could wipe the floor with them, but you took that bit out too.

Seriously, Wake! What do/did you need more to convince you I was not only on your side, but of the very same faction with an identical win con to yours? Why is it so hard top work with you, man?

I'm a Veteran of Mafia.

I have... STORIES.

*BREAKS DOWN SOBBING*

[Wake1]

So a PGO can kinda fit in with the 5-kill narrative.

...and no dead Northerners.

How did you like that, you hairless bitches?

We'll just break A50's next somewhere down the line just to make sure...

[Wake1]

If bacde watched ASOIAF how did he know Klingon investigated her?

Watchers only learn which player targeted your target: not what the action itself was.

i'm assuming he's claiming some sort of watcher+voyeur combo? at first glance that seems a little op to be town...

also, kling was his slot and i guess he showed up on his own results

'Cept he never claimed Voyeur.

He only claimed Watcher.

...it's ain't gonna bode well for you if bacde flips Scum.

[Wake1]

yeah I have my doubts on that claim especially with the bg action being redirected

Is there any evidence of a bg action or a redirection or are we playing that fun game where we guess with wordspeak?

[Wake1]

Eh, bacde is Klingon.

If you ARE Scum you better stay on your toes.

[Wake1]

RAM flipped redirector but only could do one action Wake

Meaning he couldn't do a flavor check at the same time?

[Wake1]

What we do know is LLD must die today.

I demand some Wulden boots and by God I will have that pelt.

[Wake1]

Because I BLOODY told you the COLOUR of the PM before you even disd yourself, and I did it PRECISELY to keep YOU in the light! You're NOT READING ANYTHING I SAY, my friend.

HOWEVER, the fact that you DID visit me and are still alive confirms you as a Northern Tribes Faction member (there's some good in your goofy play after all). I deliberately left that part out so as to use it on people who would claim to have targeted me.

I'm a PGO, but my ability activates on everyone who is NOT of my own faction. I had hoped someone would claim they visited me and got something different so I could wipe the floor with them, but you took that bit out too.

Seriously, Wake! What do/did you need more to convince you I was not only on your side, but of the very same faction with an identical win con to yours? Why is it so hard top work with you, man?

How many people do you think you killed when they tried to kill you last night?

[Wake1]

What we need is like a big spreadsheet where we can put all the results/claims up on the game thread.

[Wake1]

You sure you don't want to claim a big man with orange hair and tiny little hands? Because most of what you are doing reminds me of a certain RNC convention and not actually scum hunting.

You know, instead of whining you can try to press players to get a reaction out of them.

You know, like I've been doing.

I could ask you to let that sink in, but something tells me I'd be asking too much.

[Wake1]

EBWORP:

Because I BLOODY told you the COLOUR of the PM before you even disd yourself, and I did it PRECISELY to keep YOU in the light! You're NOT READING ANYTHING I SAY, my friend.

HOWEVER, the fact that you DID visit me and are still alive confirms you as a Northern Tribes Faction member (there's some good in your goofy play after all). I deliberately left that part out so as to use it on people who would claim to have targeted me.

I'm a PGO, but my ability activates on everyone who is NOT of my own faction. I had hoped someone would claim they visited me and got something different so I could wipe the floor with them, but you took that bit out too.

Seriously, Wake! What do/did you need more to convince you I was not only on your side, but of the very same faction with an identical win con to yours? Why is it so hard top work with you, man?

How many people do you think you killed when they tried to kill you last night?

I don't think I actually killed anyone. I should get notified that my PGO shot has been used up (but not on whom) if I did, which is not the case. So, I believe I still got my shotgun loaded.

Hm.

OK.

So you didn't fall for it.

If you had responded by saying you knoew they tried to kill you it would prove you a liar since the PGO Wiki states the PGO also dies in the process of being NK'd.

Still not bought on your innocence.

Stock up on liquid Patience because I'll be Scumhunting you throughout the game.

[Wake1]

Or we could have I dunno not have people take orders from a potential scum fuck?

I will refrain from responding ONLY out of my respect to your sister. However, you use the F word one more time addressing me and I'm going to be real mean to you. Please respect my wish as I do respect yours. Thank you.

You get they, Tiger!

[Wake1]

I just like the way you squeak when I pressure you.

Can you blame me?

[Wake1]

Oh, Toogelo's Northern Tribes too, iirc.

[Wake1]

Bacde - 3 (A Song of Ice and Fire, No Retreat, Tim)
Lady Lambdadelta - 7 (Toogeloo, RachMarie, DrippingGoofball, Heartless, Wake88, Almost50, Mathblade)

Not Voting - 8 (Nosferatu, Wayward Thinker, davesaz, No Retreat, Lady Lambdadelta, Expedience, TheWayItEnds, rb)

[Wake1]

On one hand I'd like to believe Toogeloo and Almost50 are confTown to me.

On the other, this damned paranoia is eating at my gut.

Why else would Mastin say flavor is flavor and that there'll be players who appear to be fighting alongside you but are actually the opposite.

[Wake1]

vote RAM

He's dead.

Here, have a walnut.

[Wake1]

RB, you

DO

realize anyone can check my Nation and see that I'm of the Northern Tribes, right?

[Wake1]

RB, you

DO

realize anyone can check my Nation and see that I'm of the Northern Tribes, right?

You DO realise that Nation =/= WinCon, right?

Aaaaand, this is why I skip.

My Nation and my Faction both say Northern Tribes.

[Wake1]

Like DEEZ NUTS.

[Wake1]

If Scum has a fakeclaim and it dies when they flip it isn't the fakeclaim that's shown but the real role PM.

[Wake1]

...oh shit.

[Wake1]

My Role PM has both my cyan faction and Nation as Northern Tribes.

Scum CAN be of a different Faction yet have Northern Tribes as their Nation.

OK.

Stepping back a bit.

[Wake1]

Motherfuckers.

[Wake1]

6- I'm reluctant to claim more, but here's how i know there are likely 4 TOWN factions: I belong to the Northern Tribes (Nation) and we also win when all threats to our faction are eliminated. To the members of this very faction who share the very same condition, my PM text colour is

CYAN

(I believe that's proof enough, since no Northerner has flipped yet).

Oh you're clever, but not that clever.

This

doesn't clear you

one bit.

I posted the font with cyan color first.

Because I checked both of our ISOs. COMBED them.

4001.

All you need to do is quote it and look at the color tags.

So, no, that's not proof enough. If you had posted the cyan part before me I would feel better, but then I would wonder, if you have a fakeclaim, if you could simply check the color codes in it as well.

You're NOT cleared.

[Wake1]

Seriously Wake...just LOL.

Damn it, Mastin.

Over-complicated yet strangely intriguing game.

[Wake1]

posting a cyan shit is not clearing any one >.> mod confirmed she gives fake claim to scums by they request !

the game is not breakable by flavor NOR the color claims!

stop messing up this game , I'm sick of this

All you're doing is echoing what I just said about the font issue.

[Wake1]

Newsflash: LLD's getting lynched today.

[Wake1]

On the fence:

Nosferatu, Wayward Thinker, davesaz, Lady Lambdadelta, TheWayItEnds, rb

[Wake1]

If A50's really a PGO, he'll reflexively kill anyone that targets him. Being a PGO doesn't mean he's not Scum.

[Wake1]

Now watch, there'll be 6 kills tonight.

[Wake1]

Bacde is undead I checked him last night

And his Nation is East Kingdom.

[Wake1]

We had 3 Isolationists & 2 Wuldens flipped, so we're either looking for one other Wulden or one Isolationist and 2 Wuldens.

This assumes they can't recruit.

[Wake1]

Since I couldn't tell fuck-all when it came to alignments, I figured I'd dangle that carrot to at least catch a liar.

"Hey Wake, I got an anonymous message from someone Night 2," or something similar. Then I would know someone was lying.

[Wake1]

ok so are we lynching then

I checked your ISO, perhaps we should be lynching you. I believe you said at one point that you would vote anyone?

Yeah we aren't going to be doing that but okay.

Ah. So you must be connected to DGB one way or another.

Should one of you flip Scum we'll be lynching the other.

[Wake1]

VOTE: bacde

[Wake1]

WT, Rach and I are Masons.

Fix your list please.

[Wake1]

But your emphasis on being CONFIRMED town just sets off every scumdar bell in the book in me.

Lol ok

So you think I'm wulden???

Well, we're Masons.

My Wulden-pelt boots are pretty nice, but Rach wants some too...

[Wake1]

Rach, let's gank this bitch.

[Wake1]

VOTE: Bacde

[Wake1]

V/LA until 8/17/16.

[Wake1]

DEEZ NUTS were made for strutting, and that's just what they'll do.

One of these days DEEZ NUTS are gonna strut all over you.

[Wake1]

Mastin's probably got two charred bone stumps where his hands ought to be.

All dat typing.

<<< Who knows about this Mastin fellow?
But I, as mastin2, aka mastina, can tell you that SHE most certainly has two hands. >>>

[Wake1]

FoS

at Almost50. Figures Scum would TRY to use whatever it could to doubtcast me.

Bring it, and I'll gobble you up ALIVE.

[Wake1]

Anything pertinent I should know about?

I am busy but willing to hammer if there's good reason to do so.

[Wake1]

I always find that fucker suspicious.

[Wake1]

We seem to be at an impasse.

[Wake1]

I'd hammer WT.

[Wake1]

Last Night I was recruited, from Northern Tribes Individual to Individual Nosferatu Faction.

In essence, we win when all threats to a new humanity treaty are eliminated and at least one player with this wincon is alive.

Because Rach and I now share the same wincon, and I'm assuming this isn't a Bastard game, and we don't have to kill anyone in order to win, by extension we're one of the Towns and we know each other are Town-aligned.

[Wake1]

this is a known bastard game Wake...

I don't think Mastin would lie to me about our wincons being the same. I asked him at least once via PM about this, and he told me that since our wincons are the same I can assume our wincons are the same.

[Wake1]

I have been insanely busy.

[Wake1]

I mean I kind oh hate that everything that Rach claimed was already public knowledge.

What are you thinking you'll do about it?

[Wake1]

So you weren't masons from the start of the game, it was just RachMarie recruited you right?

Correct, but we have the same wincon now, which is the Treaty, and we know each other is Town. To one another we're effectively Masons.

[Wake1]

ok.....

it's late and im tired and prob being stupid rn but something seems really weird about all this

And here comes Scum looking to doubtcast.

Rach, target sighted.

[Wake1]

what you all knew my name and that alexis was my gf?

no, both Bacde and DGB had claimed to be blocked, both a50 and Toog had claimed northern tribes or maybe Wake had investigated a50, not sure.

There's Northern Tribes Faction and Northern Tribes the Nation.

[Wake1]

I checked A50 and Toogeloo and they were both Northern Tribes Nation. Bacde was of the Eastern Kingdom.

When I checked A50 I was of the NT faction, rendering me immune to the PGO ability.

[Wake1]

VOTE: WT

[Wake1]

So RachMarie is Individual Nosferatu, and Wake is Northern Tribes -> Individual Nosferatu?

Correct.

Our PT is 'An Ashamed Hunter.'

[Wake1]

We have 11 days left in the day... 11. I am not getting why I am going to be lynched with 10 days left in the day.

This game is really hard to keep track of. I have things going on... I had no idea this game was going to be so complex, honestly.

I'll claim tomorrow.

You shouldn't wait to claim if you're online now.

Otherwise it looks like you're hoping for the pressure to go away.

[Wake1]

Whoever's trying to fuck with Rach's words I will tear apart with my teeth.

[Wake1]

why is it so hard for peeps to get this

Hi Rach. ^_^

So this is a public mechanic mastina posted in her rule set:

Each faction, if possessing a non-human race, has a one-shot ability to recruit a human to their faction. Emphasis "human". This ability will fail if more than one faction attempts this on the same target. This ability does not work on all humans. Regardless of success or failure, this ability is used up once activated. (The recruiter will be informed if they fail, but not the reason why.) In short, only the unluckiest of humans will get culled. It can happen, though, so be cautious!

Which means, scum have the same ability you are claiming to have used on Wake! The way you claimed masons also didn't feel particularly transparent and honest.

It doesn't help that Wake's play for today is essentially to only show up to snarl at people not townreading you.

So I

get

it. I'm just not townreading it.

I'm fine with you assuming that when in reality you have no idea what I am capable of.

If you hadn't been using your ears by now you would know well and clear that I was a Northern Tribes human before I was recruited by Rach into the Individual Nosferatu faction. I will not repeat myself again. The fact that I have had to on more than one occasion is in itself a mystery to me.

Considering in our wincon we DON'T have to kill anyone then YES, we ARE TOWN, and to one another we are Masons. That you have 'reservations' over it tells me that I do have to keep an eye out for you because you are likely Scum trying desperately to achieve our mislynch. I don't care if you don't Townread us. Give me a reason and I'll come for your throat.

[Wake1]

'You may request a fakeclaim of Northern Tribes, Western Empire, or Eastern Kingdom'

Does this mean all three of these factions are Town?

[Wake1]

wow nos was a cult leader .... I though he was softing some kind of investigative

I am going to claim:

My race IS not human but I am a part of individual humans faction. I am a hybrid : Undead and Vampire

My parents left me when I was only a kid in a town village in the west empire cuase they were afraid of the consiquenses of their marriage and my new race. I grew up in a human city ; learned all of their skills , trained by Gyles Kaiser (Titus role) to use my spescial body and human combat skills to be a strong warrior.

I am a Champion - Not one of the three champions mentioned in titus role pm but it was crumbing my existance there (there might be other champions but not following the three human champions circle)

I can't get culted in any manner - its written in my pm like the way its written on titus role. so poor nos failed his night 1 recruit attempt. Thats explained in flavor as well. There is a passive about getting informed who is the cult recruiter if an undead or vampire tries to cult me. thats why I was like furios that kuroi was scum day 2 till a scum flip happened later.

I can't target anyone during the nights ; my role is entirely. and I confirm rach roleblock cuase I couldn't check DGB last night.

I am a location checker.

I can confirm that my role killed an isolationist night 2 Without targetting anyone (as I said my role is passive) . For whatever matters I don't wanna claim how or why or when this happens cuase claiming it is entirely antitown.

I can understand after bacde results and nos flip I am a very good chance in your povs to hit cult but I'm not cult. Think about ^.

I'm no idiot to claim such a race or stuff when I'm in this position as scum me ...

Um what Nation are you?

[Wake1]

Oh OK...

[Wake1]

'You may request a fakeclaim of Northern Tribes, Western Empire, or Eastern Kingdom'

Does this mean all three of these factions are Town?

[Wake1]

If the Cult Leader is killed, would his culted minions stay culted or revert back to normal?

[Wake1]

Northern tribe and west empire (tuitus role) already flipped town

and its poked in Titus role pm that eastern empire is a faction of a champion who is bounded with her in a way that is so townish - and we know its no retreat know

that means all 3 are town yeah.

Could you explain the bolded please?

[Wake1]

I checked No Retreat's Nation and they flipped Eastern Kingdom. Nation, not faction.

[Wake1]

I searched for east/eastern in NR's ISO and didn't find anything.

[Wake1]

*sniff sniff*

*SNORT*

Rhagh, maybe I should focus on

this game

now. This one's tougher than others because of all the different groups, but I'm willing to

triple

my focus in this game relatively soon. I respect rb as a strong Town player in general, so I will give him the benefit of the doubt for now. This game's so big I'm not good at remembering all of the flips and stuff that happened, but I'm willing to get my razor claws deeper into it.

[Wake1]

I don't even understand wake's thought process like 69% of the time but his conclusions (generally) make sense...eventually :p

OH?

69?

DEEZ NUTZ are most pleezed.

[Wake1]

Who

is claimed Wulden?

[Wake1]

STOP!

If we have a claimed Wulden alive in our midst WE LYNCH IT now.

[Wake1]

If there's a Faction checker, check A50.

I believe A50's 1-Shot PGO claim. What else explains all those deaths that one Night? If his PGO affected checker abilities it makes a hell of a lot of sense.

Is LLD still alive? Didn't she claim Wulden?

[Wake1]

Dude if I was a confirmed wulden I'd be lynched by now

Don't speak so quickly.

[Wake1]

I'm scum for thinking the person who fucking fake-claimed PGO is scum. Amazing.

No. I am telling you you're wrong.

Your perseverance on this is the problem.

[Wake1]

I'm scum for thinking the person who fucking fake-claimed PGO is scum. Amazing.

No. I am telling you you're wrong.

Your perseverance on this is the problem.

You said yourself it was the 5 kills that made you believe it.

It's proven there can be 5 kills without PGO.

Please don't do the whole Nation = Faction thing with me again.

Consider how many people were alive at the time just before all those people died.

Everyone including me has a checker ability. If the 1-Shit PGO ability includes those checker abilities, that would explain all those deaths if multiple non-Northern people targeted A50.

I'm not saying it's not possible those deaths could have come from elsewhere.

What I'm saying is how the hell are you Scumreading A50 when his claim makes perfect sense given the context?

I'm still trying to Townread you but you're not making it easy, especially with that dumb quip at the end.

[Wake1]

Can't w8 for A50 to flip 3rd party/scum at end of the game.

?

I mean, we've got Wulden, Isolationist, and The Other (Cult) factions already.

[Wake1]

I'm here... ish. Busy getting ready for full-time nursing school in two weeks.

[Wake1]

Uhm.
So, the thread's locked.

You'd think I, as the

moderator

of this game, would know why.

I do not.

Unless someone informs me they locked the thread for a reason (in which case, they can

inform me they have done so for a reason

), I'm unlocking the thread and apologizing for the inconvenience someone else caused.

Game continues unless I'm told it shouldn't.

I was wondering what the heck happened...