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Post Post #6625 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2016 1:08 am

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I did not inno you I stated your race came back as undead

That is not an automatic inno

We have had a vamp who was part of the isolationist faction and we have had a vamp that was individual PR (doc) who was allied with town and wins with town plus one of his faction alive

Just because the undead faction was allied with town does NOT MEAN all undead are auto innoed.

PLUS there is the fact your watcher reports do NOT line up I was not with Luna I was checking RAM who I thought was scum, and guess what he WAS.

I am not convinced you are town bacde not at all
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Post Post #6626 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2016 1:20 am

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rach you said you will iso rb

how is that going?
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Post Post #6627 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2016 1:23 am

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In post 6624, Bacde wrote:
In post 6597, Wayward Thinker wrote:
In post 6596, Bacde wrote:
In post 6589, Wake1 wrote:VOTE: bacde
You realize I'm basically innoed right?

By nature of me being in the undead faction group that was confirmed to be townsided

and confirmed to only have undead or possibly wulden in it

and now being confirmed to be undead?
I believe that we are suggesting in this game that your race says little about your alignment, rather it just gives a jumping off point in order to make cases.
Uh...

You didn't read my post at all did you?

There's a lot more than race going on as to why I'm innoed

Did you forget to use race as a jumping off point to determine alignment?

Wayward thinker seems like scum actually
Fucking wow does this mean we can actually lynch the person I've been trying to get lynched since day 1??

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Post Post #6628 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2016 1:27 am

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Rach I don't question your motivations but I question your accuracy on this read.

I thought Bacde was scum for like all of Day 2, but I started to change my mind on Day 3. Re-read from Day 3 when Bacde first replaced in, I really don't think they're a better lynch than someone like Nosferatu/Wayward/Expedience. If you disagree then okay, Bacde isn't a TERRIBLE lynch but I think they're low-hanging fruit for today.

Like we had this big theory there was scum in Luna's hood. We don't know there definitely is. A lot of townflips have had Expedience/Wayward as their scumreads - Wayward's Day 1 wagon was derailed onto Kuroi by multiple scum that have flipped. I'm reading WT scum, the flips support the theory that they're scum. Let's lynch scum please. My head's gonna explode because I've been trying to get people to see scum Wayward since like halfway through Day 1. But we did have a guilty on Salt Squad and then LLD - so it's understandable. Apparently we have no guilty, so this is the time to lynch the best scumreads - right?
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Post Post #6629 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2016 2:29 am

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Post Post #6630 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2016 5:04 am

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In post 6625, RachMarie wrote:I did not inno you I stated your race came back as undead

That is not an automatic inno

We have had a vamp who was part of the isolationist faction and we have had a vamp that was individual PR (doc) who was allied with town and wins with town plus one of his faction alive

Just because the undead faction was allied with town does NOT MEAN all undead are auto innoed.

PLUS there is the fact your watcher reports do NOT line up I was not with Luna I was checking RAM who I thought was scum, and guess what he WAS.

I am not convinced you are town bacde not at all
Well I'm a confirmed member of the undead faction and I am confirmed undead and the faction's win alignment is confirmed protown

If it looks like a duck and acts like a duck and quacks like a duck and is confirmed to be a duck why are you overcomplicating what is obviously a duck?
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Post Post #6631 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2016 5:08 am

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In post 6627, rb wrote:
In post 6624, Bacde wrote:
In post 6597, Wayward Thinker wrote:
In post 6596, Bacde wrote:
In post 6589, Wake1 wrote:VOTE: bacde
You realize I'm basically innoed right?

By nature of me being in the undead faction group that was confirmed to be townsided

and confirmed to only have undead or possibly wulden in it

and now being confirmed to be undead?
I believe that we are suggesting in this game that your race says little about your alignment, rather it just gives a jumping off point in order to make cases.
Uh...

You didn't read my post at all did you?

There's a lot more than race going on as to why I'm innoed

Did you forget to use race as a jumping off point to determine alignment?

Wayward thinker seems like scum actually
Fucking wow does this mean we can actually lynch the person I've been trying to get lynched since day 1??

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Post Post #6632 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2016 5:15 am

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you are not confirmed town, I did not say you are confirmed scum either I said you are NOT CONFIRMED town.

why are you so concerned about it. I do have a scum read on you, but it is a weaker one. I am not like a full on cop that can investigate and come up with THIS DUDE is confirmed scum.

I know you are part of the undead faction
I know you are undead
I know because LUNA told us herself there is one person in your faction that is a spy for the wulden.
I know we only had one kill last night and it was scum that was killed.
You admitted you were blocked from doing anything last night

But your emphasis on being CONFIRMED town just sets off every scumdar bell in the book in me.
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Post Post #6633 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2016 7:01 am

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In post 6577, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:I never said I expect them to be static I want to see how you shaped them.
ok but I'm not asking you about your read on me. I'm asking you about how you feel about my list and where you think I'm wrong at.
In post 6602, Expedience wrote:"singular faux hunting"? ?
Its when you have a single suspect that you want to lynch. Like we are over 6k posts in and we have 12 flips and I'm your only suspect? I don't think that comes from town like ever. Also I feel like your "nero was unwilling to bus!" is kinda nearsighted sense it ignores the obvious wuldens bussing her and the isolationist and/or Nosferatu voting her. Who else are you scumreading besides me?
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I see no reason to.
In post 6622, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:@Nero the reads you last night gave me are so similar to mine although I really like to hear your rb case. cuase I had a town read on him

and I don't understand townreads on dgb. she did a readlist on day 1 and flaked. she did the same as scum in saga I guess (flaking)
you had to ISO me to determine we have similar reads?!?

DGB also hasn't flaked
In post 6628, rb wrote:Wayward's Day 1 wagon was derailed onto Kuroi by multiple scum that have flipped.
I brought this up around late day 1 or day 2 but Exp was actually the leading wagon before WT. If you are going to argue that Kuroi was a counter to WT was is WT not a counter to Exp?
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Post Post #6634 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2016 7:06 am

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In post 6633, No Retreat wrote:you had to ISO me to determine we have similar reads?!?

DGB also hasn't flaked
VOTE: No retreat

your really trying so hard to misrepresenting me and this is not funny anymore

where is dgb then? in your scum pt?
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Post Post #6635 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2016 7:09 am

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This was DGB's last post here. I mean if you are going to argue that she flaked fine but its pretty obvious she hasn't so.....

In post 6591, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 6586, Toogeloo wrote:I was blocked on Night 1, so a role blocker is more than likely in the game (probably on the Wulden side since Isolationists had a redirector).

I don't think rb is the right place to lynch today, I liked his actions for the most part yesterday. I wouldn't say he's a strong town read, but I would say there are so many better options than him to pick from.
I was also blocked Night 1.
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Post Post #6636 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2016 7:12 am

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also I'm not even trying to lynch you so this whole "I'm being misreppped! HALP!" seems extremely silly to me. Now go find scum and stop fussing about me making you angry or w/e.
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Post Post #6637 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2016 7:12 am

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In [url=http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=8196172#p8196172]post 6636[/url], Frozen Angel wrote:the only thing DGB did yesterday was voting LLD

the only thing she did today was "sheeping almost's dave vote after he removed his vote from him" and claiming that she was blocked at day 1.

I mean I don't think activity means anything but what the fuck is the meaning of flaked then?
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Post Post #6638 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2016 7:14 am

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flaked is when they replace out of the game. So I was just correcting you that she hadn't. If you wanna push a "DGB is scum 'cause she's a non presence." then ok but she hasn't flaked.
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Post Post #6639 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2016 7:15 am

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In post 6639, No Retreat wrote:flaked is when they replace out of the game
and/or are force replaced due to activity.
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Post Post #6640 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2016 7:17 am

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basically half of the players gave out they reads and lynch desires.

what do you think about them and who is the best option in hitting scum in your opinion?

pedit : call that whatever you want. she is not playing this game and is only here to vote. she is not forming a town block and this is something I saw from scum her before.

why are you town reading her?
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Post Post #6641 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2016 7:54 am

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In [url=http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=8196172#p8196172]post 6636[/url], Frozen Angel wrote:the only thing DGB did yesterday was voting LLD

the only thing she did today was "sheeping almost's dave vote after he removed his vote from him" and claiming that she was blocked at day 1.

I mean I don't think activity means anything but what the fuck is the meaning of flaked then?
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Post Post #6642 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2016 7:56 am

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Also my naked vote record and reads have been pretty good thank you very much
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Post Post #6643 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2016 7:59 am

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who is scum and why

I have my reads but their pretty much shady right now.
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Post Post #6644 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2016 8:00 am

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and i have a terrible headache and I need to sleep , will read your response tomorrow
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Post Post #6645 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2016 8:07 am

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In post 6642, DrippingGoofball wrote: Yeah but I'm conftown so I can totally coast
Eh? Where is this confirmation you speak of?
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Post Post #6646 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2016 8:21 am

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triviaPurportedly, Drake the Adventurer's tombstone reads, "It was a groden. He did not run." However, as the location of Drake's tombstone has been lost to the ages, nobody knows for sure.

Forty-fifth Votecount
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(Fourth Votecount D4)
No Retreat - 4 (Expedience, Bacde, Almost50, A Song of Ice and Fire)

A Song of Ice and Fire - 2 (Toogeloo, Heartless)

davesaz - 1 (DrippingGoofball)
Expedience - 1 (No Retreat)
Bacde - 1 (Wake88)
Wayward Thinker - 1 (rb)

Not Voting - 6 (Nosferatu, Wayward Thinker, davesaz, Tim, TheWayItEnds, RachMarie)

With
16
alive, it takes
9
to lynch.

Day 4's deadline is Tuesday, August 23rd, @ 9:00 PM PST: (expired on 2016-08-23 21:00:00).
At Deadline,
No Retreat
would be lynched.

Extras
Spoiler: Changes from Last Votecount
(+1)
No Retreat - 4 (Expedience, Bacde, Almost50,
A Song of Ice and Fire
)
(=0)
A Song of Ice and Fire - 2 (Toogeloo, Heartless)
(=0)
davesaz - 1 (DrippingGoofball)
(=0)
Expedience - 1 (No Retreat)
(=0)
Bacde - 1 (Wake88)
(+1)
Wayward Thinker - 1 (rb)


(-2)
Not Voting - 6 (Nosferatu, Wayward Thinker, davesaz, Tim,
A Song of Ice and Fire
,
rb
, TheWayItEnds, RachMarie)
Last votecount was .
Spoiler: Player Votecount History Day 4
Spoiler: Players Voted D4 History
  1. No Retreat:
    4 - , , ,
  2. davesaz:
    2 - ,
  3. A Song of Ice and Fire:
    2 - ,
  4. Expedience:
    1 -
  5. Bacde:
    1 -
  6. Wayward Thinker:
    1 -
Spoiler: Voting Chronology Day 4
On Wed, Aug 08/03/16 @ 12:58a,
Expedience
Votes
No Retreat
in post .
On Wed, Aug 08/03/16 @ 01:20a,
Toogeloo
votes
A Song of Ice and Fire
in post .
On Wed, Aug 08/03/16 @ 02:35a,
Almost50
Votes
davesaz
in post .
On Wed, Aug 08/03/16 @ 03:51a,
Bacde
votes
No Retreat
in post .
On Wed, Aug 08/03/16 @ 06:15a,
Almost50
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No Retreat
in post .
On Wed, Aug 08/03/16 @ 08:58a,
DrippingGoofball
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davesaz
in post .
On Wed, Aug 08/03/16 @ 09:43a,
No Retreat
votes
Expedience
in post .
On Wed, Aug 08/03/16 @ 10:58a,
Heartless
Votes
A Song of Ice and Fire
in post .
On Wed, Aug 08/03/16 @ 05:47p,
Wake88
Votes
Bacde
in post .
On Thu, Aug 08/04/16 @ 04:23a,
rb
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Wayward Thinker
in post .
On Thu, Aug 08/04/16 @ 10:06a,
A Song of Ice and Fire
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No Retreat
in post .
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Post Post #6647 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2016 9:04 am

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In post 6645, davesaz wrote:
In post 6642, DrippingGoofball wrote: Yeah but I'm conftown so I can totally coast
Eh? Where is this confirmation you speak of?
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Post Post #6648 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2016 9:05 am

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You know that does not confirm you as town to anyone else though.

still I think you are prob town. You got blocked and there were still town deaths.
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Post Post #6649 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2016 9:56 am

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In post 6632, RachMarie wrote:I know because LUNA told us herself there is one person in your faction that is a spy for the wulden.
If you believe this then you should vote me

I'm the last surviving member of my faction and the other members were all undead, none of them were wulden
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