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Heartless · Post Post #6675 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2016 4:53 pm

I looked at Isolationist interactions with a triple ISO of Cephrir + Salt Squad + RAM.

Probably not Isolationist: Wayward Thinkers, Almost50, DrippingGoofball, Bacde, Nosferatu, Mathblade, davesaz, Wake88, No Retreat, rb, Expedience

Could be Isolationist: Tim, A Song of Ice and Fire, TWIE, Toogeloo, RachMarie

All three went after Wayward Thinkers at some point. They didn't ever really go after each other hard until the guilty on Salt Squad. In fact, it's looking to me like they're trying to townread each other as much as possible. Couple that with multiball and I don't think bussing was a big thing they were doing here.
Almost50 is another player they all took aim at.
Bacde/KlingonCelt is another.
davesaz is another. There's also 4775.

It's trut that DrippingGoofball

did

tunnel on LLD for and defending Salt. But I think it would've been weird for her to bus RAM and Cephrir like she did, especially given RAM's powerful role. References: 2002, 2071, 3464

Nosferatu shared the Cephrir result.

From the way this bunch talks to MathBlade, I don't think she's Isolationist. For examples of what I'm talking about: 1714, 1732, 3353, 5299

Salt Squad was townreading the Wake slot but Cephrir pretty consistently went after it hard. 1925 and 5080 are a couple examples.

No Retreat's Isolationist selective scumhunting is probably not from an Isolationist unless he's really laying it on thick.

rb's interactions with RAM didn't look like bussing around the 2309 area.
Speaking of "probably not bussing," quote pyramid in 2317 points to "Not Isolationist" Expedience.

TWIE is oddly high in Cephrir's reads list, 3360

Then I did the same thing for Wulden.

Probably Not Wulden: Expedience, Almost50, DrippingGoofball

Could Be Wulden: Bacde, Nosferatu, Mathblade, Wayward Thinker, davesaz, Wake88, Tim, No Retreat, A Song of Ice and Fire, rb, TheWayItEnds, Toogeloo, RachMarie

Interactions that probably aren't bussing:
Expedience, 2127 and 4071
Almost50, 4216

This one's a lot more scant, but from Day 2 on LLD was mostly treated as having a guilty on her head so I could easily imagine her being bussed by at least some of her team.

I did this back before I had the MathBlade flip so I need to redo the Wulden and then re-examine my overall reads taking Cult and whatnot into account (I don't really know how I'm going to do that -.-). I also need to update it for events that happened today (I see Wake and Rach claimed masons).
I thought it would happen tonight but it ended up not so I'm just posting what I already did.

A Song of Ice and Fire · Post Post #6676 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2016 5:05 pm

Mathblade flipped wulden already

hello to you too

A Song of Ice and Fire · Post Post #6677 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2016 5:09 pm

UNVOTE:

for now

I need to talk with my other head. Stay tunned!

A Song of Ice and Fire · Post Post #6678 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2016 5:14 pm

In post 6676, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:hello to you too

this means I appreciate the input

it seems something progressed

rb · Post Post #6679 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2016 5:41 pm

Bacde is just becoming a more and more terrible lynch as the game goes on.

@Heartless what do you think of A50's PGO claim? I think it's bullshit at this point.

mastin2 · Post Post #6680 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2016 7:02 pm

triviaThere are 5 breeds of groden: brown, black, and gray grodens usually (but not necessarily) hunt in packs. Grizzly and Polar grodens usually (but not always) hunt solo.

Forty-eighth Votecount

:

(Seventh Votecount D4)

No Retreat - 4 (Expedience, Bacde, Almost50, DrippingGoofball)

Bacde - 3 (Wake88, RachMarie, davesaz)

A Song of Ice and Fire - 2 (Toogeloo, Heartless)
Expedience - 1 (No Retreat)
Wayward Thinker - 1 (rb)

Not Voting - 5 (Nosferatu, Wayward Thinker, Tim, TheWayItEnds, A Song of Ice and Fire)

With

16

alive, it takes

9

to lynch.

Day 4's deadline is Tuesday, August 23rd, @ 9:00 PM PST: (expired on 2016-08-23 21:00:00).
At Deadline,

No Retreat

would be lynched.

Extras

Spoiler: Changes from Last Votecount

Last votecount was post 6665, page 267.

Spoiler: Player Votecount History Day 4

Spoiler: Players Voted D4 History

Spoiler: Voting Chronology Day 4

Wayward Thinker · Post Post #6681 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2016 7:25 pm

Hi guys, I'm back from vacation and have no idea what's going on but this:

In post 5852, RachMarie wrote:Could there have been something like a lover effect? Since we don't have all the info? It would explain why so many deaths. Especially over N 1?

PEDIT

I CALL BS Bacde

I checked on RAM last night his heavy championing level of white knighting on our lynch target bothered me he came back nosterefuru or or whatever it is

So only way I could have visited Luna is if RAM killed her and took me along for the ride

VOTE: bacde

is unacceptable. I've never been one to really keep track of events and logically figure stuff out based on claims, but this just looks shady af to me. Where is the Scum hunting in this post? I am just not seeing it here. Kinda one of those shoot first ask questions later type of things. Not liking it.

To rb:

I understand your concern on us, I do, but honestly those two slots have never been the kind I interact with much as Town. I've played a game or two with the players of RAM and never much interacted with them much, I can link games. Same goes for Ceph.. they are just people I don't usually interact with much. I'm not quite sure who the last member of the RAM head is, but I know I have played with Drixx and Cerb as that hydra twice. I have played 2 games with that hydra I think and one of them was the only game I played with Ceph. I don't generally get out of the newbie game queue much and I have little experience with big large games like this one, just to let you know where I am coming from.

Wayward Thinker · Post Post #6682 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2016 7:44 pm

In post 5947, Wake1 wrote:
In post 5945, Tim wrote:In a 6 person hood, I don't think there'd be 2 wulden scum spying on them. That seems a bit much. Also a50 claimed northern tribes faction, so he's not there.

p-edit: It's possible. That said, since if both were scum, they'd be scum of the same faction (wulden), if he wanted to save Bcade, then that would make LLD town. Which is I think is less likely than not. If I was going to lynch any, I would lynch Bcade first though.

We lynch LLD today, or I will throw a shit-fit.

And by shit-fit, I mean throwing this game into chaos until players come to their senses and lynch the other Scum faction player.

I can legit say I hate this. It has nothing to do with LLD flipping or not, but threatening to throw the game into chaos because you don't get your way is very childish.

Wayward Thinker · Post Post #6683 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2016 9:24 pm

I think ASOIAF is major Sus and think they were culted. I have similar feelings for Rach and I wouldn't be surprised if Bacde was with them.

Wayward Thinker · Post Post #6684 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2016 9:24 pm

These last 3 posts were done by LQ.

Wayward Thinker · Post Post #6685 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2016 9:24 pm

Last 5 posts were LQ.

RachMarie · Post Post #6686 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2016 9:32 pm

uhh you know Im voting bacde and masons with wake, right?

Wayward Thinker · Post Post #6687 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2016 9:34 pm

In post 6686, RachMarie wrote:uhh you know Im voting bacde and masons with wake, right?

yeah, I do. A bus was done once this game, it cam be done again.

Wayward Thinker · Post Post #6688 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2016 9:35 pm

And I'm not ok with a No Retreat lynch.

RachMarie · Post Post #6689 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2016 9:36 pm

LOL you clearly don't know my scum game then I don't bus even when I should.

no Im voting bacde because of the reasons I stated. THERE WAS NO TOWN DEATHS last night

he admits he was blocked

how is this not an issue?

A Song of Ice and Fire · Post Post #6690 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2016 9:36 pm

do you think bacde is scum or not

and why

cuase your attacking the only case on him which apear to be shit but not illogical and trash and your calling him bussed at the same time

~Ice

RachMarie · Post Post #6691 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2016 9:42 pm

I think he is scum

yes I do

I was addressing the idea WT had that because someone else bussed, that means I must be scum and bussing.

ummm yeah not my style dude, feel free to check out my games.

But no I think he was an undead spy in the undead faction I believe our flipped cop Luna.
When you combine that with the fact that he was blocked last night, and oh yeah no townie deaths just one scumz one.

Wayward Thinker · Post Post #6692 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2016 9:43 pm

In post 6690, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:do you think bacde is scum or not

and why

cuase your attacking the only case on him which apear to be shit but not illogical and trash and your calling him bussed at the same time

~Ice

I am Scum reading Bacde as Wulden. So either Bacde got swapped with someone or they recruited Rach. IDGAF if Rach says they never bus. I've seen others say the same (and were being honest) but they bussed their Teammate anyways.

RachMarie · Post Post #6693 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2016 9:45 pm

WTF he is undead scum

I got the result just like I did on Titus and RAM

his race is undead he was with the undead faction as a wulden SPY duh are you doubting Luna our cop?

A Song of Ice and Fire · Post Post #6694 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2016 9:46 pm

that was @WT

and I told this to rb before

I don't appreciate your naked "he seems sus" . come at me with something I can response to. this is just throwing mud around. no I'm not culted.

talking about cults and stuff

rb is one of the people who is concerning me, he is not solid in his stanse like we have it boyz let get them all ruined tone. he seems shie and carefull and I'm really worried a scum faction got him already.

I chnaged my mind on both dgb and heartless. I don't like wake mason claim cuase if its legit we had a 5 people meson neighborhood and another 2 people human one(if 2) which is crazy in first view , but I guess there might be a way for it to be legit and I like to trust this guess.

I was wrong in calling bacde innicent as I claimed before. i asn't thinking about the possibility for an undead spy in wulden faction. its just not an aspect I wanna push today when we must find cult if there is any. plus I think math was really really white knighting LLD and buddying me to maybe put bacde at a weaker place.

Wayward Thinker · Post Post #6695 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2016 9:48 pm

In post 6693, RachMarie wrote:WTF he is undead scum

I got the result just like I did on Titus and RAM

his race is undead he was with the undead faction as a wulden SPY duh are you doubting Luna our cop?

I don't think undead are Scum anymore, sorry. The spy shit was just WIFOM IMO.

Wayward Thinker · Post Post #6696 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2016 9:52 pm

In post 6694, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:that was @WT

and I told this to rb before

I don't appreciate your naked "he seems sus" . come at me with something I can response to. this is just throwing mud around. no I'm not culted.

talking about cults and stuff

rb is one of the people who is concerning me, he is not solid in his stanse like we have it boyz let get them all ruined tone. he seems shie and carefull and I'm really worried a scum faction got him already.

I chnaged my mind on both dgb and heartless. I don't like wake mason claim cuase if its legit we had a 5 people meson neighborhood and another 2 people human one(if 2) which is crazy in first view , but I guess there might be a way for it to be legit and I like to trust this guess.

I was wrong in calling bacde innicent as I claimed before. i asn't thinking about the possibility for an undead spy in wulden faction. its just not an aspect I wanna push today when we must find cult if there is any. plus I think math was really really white knighting LLD and buddying me to maybe put bacde at a weaker place.

You are coming at things from a different angle since Day 1 IMO.

What do you think of heartless now?

I don't think I will be voting wake all game.

RachMarie · Post Post #6697 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2016 9:54 pm

In post 4697, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 4695, rb wrote:@Luna: who are you scumreading outside of your Night result?

I do have a scumread in my hood which i mentioned.

Outside of that i have no idea rn im townreading a lot of ppl.
I'm pretty much trying to figure out who's trying to lynch us based on our win condition, because they're more than likely either scum or at least... opposing our faction.

There you go Luna's OWN WORDS

scum in the undead hood

undead scum spy for the wulden faction

Wayward Thinker · Post Post #6698 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2016 9:55 pm

In post 6697, RachMarie wrote:
In post 4697, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 4695, rb wrote:@Luna: who are you scumreading outside of your Night result?

I do have a scumread in my hood which i mentioned.

Outside of that i have no idea rn im townreading a lot of ppl.
I'm pretty much trying to figure out who's trying to lynch us based on our win condition, because they're more than likely either scum or at least... opposing our faction.
There you go Luna's OWN WORDS

scum in the undead hood

undead scum spy for the wulden faction

Not going to believe than since IIRC not everyone in the hood was on board with that.

A Song of Ice and Fire · Post Post #6699 (ISO) » Thu Aug 04, 2016 9:56 pm

what do you mean I'm coming from a different angel

I'm trying my best to sort the remaining players with all the info its here

I really liked heartless today post and I believe there is an effort behind it. and when I reviewed dgb I can see she was always correct on her reads which is unsatleing but I don't wanna think her as a busser right now cuase that was a crazy scum play.

never just give a free pass for any shit. that claim needs to get sorted like others. this is not a mini normal game. although as I said I believe its true.