Gistou (Over!)

A Song of Ice and Fire · Post Post #6850 (ISO) » Fri Aug 05, 2016 9:34 pm

In post 6842, Expedience wrote:
In post 6830, No Retreat wrote:yes, lets claim and give scum more information. Stop shit posting.
but if i'm scum how does it give scum more information? ',:^)

huh?

is this claiming I'm scum and I already know your role? cause this is weird >.>

~Ice

Toogeloo · Post Post #6851 (ISO) » Fri Aug 05, 2016 9:35 pm

In post 6849, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:rb is weird today

he is posting really really different from his confident arrogant "I got this game" in day 2

I feel this is a really good shot for hitting cult.

~Ice

So even if you're right, and rb has been culted, that still doesn't get us any closer to finding the cult leader themselves.

A Song of Ice and Fire · Post Post #6852 (ISO) » Fri Aug 05, 2016 9:36 pm

But it will give us a cult flip and maybe info about how that shit works

I can't see your point.

~Ice

A Song of Ice and Fire · Post Post #6853 (ISO) » Fri Aug 05, 2016 9:37 pm

and if we don't get cult today we might loose majority Soon

~Ice

A Song of Ice and Fire · Post Post #6854 (ISO) » Fri Aug 05, 2016 9:38 pm

In post 6848, Toogeloo wrote:Isolationists took a pretty hefty hit on Night 2, Wulden have taken a bit of hit as well. Cult generally likes to lay low in order to recruit members for as long as possible. Low input players probably hold the greatest chance of hitting anything anti-town. So for now, I'm cool with active players and could lynch someone who hasn't had an impact on the game state.

Your voting me like the most active player in game

are you kidding me

~Ice

Toogeloo · Post Post #6855 (ISO) » Fri Aug 05, 2016 9:42 pm

If we lynch rb and he's not cult, then we've made it even worse by lynching more than likely town, keeping cult numbers intact, and allowing them further recruiting.

We can play this game back and forth, but it doesn't change the fact that lynching what we think "might" be a recruit is still subotimal play. At best, all we've done is stall the cult assuming they recruit every night, at worse we've strengthened them even more so. Cult has to be dealt with by clipping the head of the snake, not working backwards.

PEdit: You are my biggest scum read. If you had read the rest of my post, you'd know what my position is.

A Song of Ice and Fire · Post Post #6856 (ISO) » Fri Aug 05, 2016 9:47 pm

I really really trying to convince myself that that was a sirious post from you and your not just bullshiting around

for other scums do you know their scum or you find reasons to scumread them and then lynch them to progress the game in your favor? whats different about cult huanting? Are you saying we should just lynch wuldens and isolationists and just wait and see when they rise with like half of the player list whitout even trying to get flipps done and investigate the links?

wtf

in my topic your saying I was whiteknighting LLD. your bullshiting and misrepresenting me. I asked you kindly to stop and look again but this is not going to work I guess so just fucking continue whatever your doing. I don't fuking care.

A Song of Ice and Fire · Post Post #6857 (ISO) » Fri Aug 05, 2016 9:48 pm

VOTE: rb

A Song of Ice and Fire · Post Post #6858 (ISO) » Fri Aug 05, 2016 9:49 pm

someone be a dear and check toog if rb flipped culted

~Ice

Toogeloo · Post Post #6859 (ISO) » Fri Aug 05, 2016 9:54 pm

In post 6856, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:in my topic your saying I was whiteknighting LLD.

I never claimed you were White Knighting LLD. I claimed you opted to go for low hanging fruit instead of obvious scum despite you claiming you knew LLD was obvscum and felt the need to "pressure" bacde instead.

Toogeloo · Post Post #6860 (ISO) » Fri Aug 05, 2016 9:55 pm

I don't buy into paranoia based lynches, sorry, and I'm certainly not going to hope that we are lynching a peon instead of possibly hitting more threatening targets.

A Song of Ice and Fire · Post Post #6861 (ISO) » Fri Aug 05, 2016 9:57 pm

In post 6859, Toogeloo wrote:
In post 6856, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:in my topic your saying I was whiteknighting LLD.
I never claimed you were White Knighting LLD. I claimed you opted to go for low hanging fruit instead of obvious scum despite you claiming you knew LLD was obvscum and felt the need to "pressure" bacde instead.

Bacde is not a low hanging fruit

NOONE is a low hanging fruit

stop using this shit term into my face

Bacde needed to get solved. I tried my best to solve him.

A Song of Ice and Fire · Post Post #6862 (ISO) » Fri Aug 05, 2016 9:58 pm

and I was pushing LLD in the same fucking time. but your just ignoring it

A Song of Ice and Fire · Post Post #6863 (ISO) » Fri Aug 05, 2016 9:59 pm

In post 6860, Toogeloo wrote:I don't buy into paranoia based lynches, sorry, and I'm certainly not going to hope that we are lynching a peon instead of possibly hitting more threatening targets.

your not in the correct game then

replace out please

A Song of Ice and Fire · Post Post #6864 (ISO) » Fri Aug 05, 2016 10:01 pm

Thats not me trying to harras you to replace out

I'm just trying to make my point.

this is a cult game I am paranoid and I will get my best bet in culted person lynched. thats what I was trying to do this day and I know its the correct play.

A Song of Ice and Fire · Post Post #6865 (ISO) » Fri Aug 05, 2016 10:02 pm

all Ice btw for who wanted me to sign

I'm going to eat something so Bye

No Retreat · Post Post #6866 (ISO) » Fri Aug 05, 2016 11:16 pm

RB pls talk to me about how or how not WT is a counterwagon to Exp.

No Retreat · Post Post #6867 (ISO) » Fri Aug 05, 2016 11:18 pm

In post 6846, davesaz wrote:
In post 6818, Expedience wrote:?_?

this feels like rvs

Nosferatu is person most likely to be town -> cult

In post 6819, RachMarie wrote:why do you think that?

In post 6822, Expedience wrote:
In post 6819, RachMarie wrote:why do you think that?
1000% gut.

No Retreat, if you claim and I believe you, I will also claim. Otherwise you can see that a wagon will build on you until deadline, and then you'll have to claim at the last minute and you might be more likely to get lynched.

In post 6830, No Retreat wrote:yes, lets claim and give scum more information. Stop shit posting.

In post 6837, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 6830, No Retreat wrote:yes, lets claim and give scum more information. Stop shit posting.
read my sig

buh-bye

In post 6842, Expedience wrote:
In post 6830, No Retreat wrote:yes, lets claim and give scum more information. Stop shit posting.
but if i'm scum how does it give scum more information? ',:^)

In post 6843, Nosferatu wrote:
In post 6842, Expedience wrote:
In post 6830, No Retreat wrote:yes, lets claim and give scum more information. Stop shit posting.
but if i'm scum how does it give scum more information? ',:^)
I'm so confused by this post
Very interesting sequence.

A gut read with this many posts? (yes, I omitted a statistics post, don't remember who posted that one TBH, and can't take the time to check them right now as it's almost 1am) But in the same post asking NR to claim -- what? How is that relevant to the discussion on Nos? I don't like the non-sequitur feeling about this sequence of posts. Can't pin down who/what bothers me, again it's 1am and not able to concentrate. Just something is off. If anything this is a reminder to myself to look at it.

Exp wants me to claim. I don't want to claim and see no pro-town reason to claim. It has nothing to do with Nos.

mastin2 · Post Post #6868 (ISO) » Sat Aug 06, 2016 12:03 am

triviaGrizzly grodens are by far the largest, strongest, and toughest of grodens, towering over all their kin. While this does sacrifice some of the speed grodens are known for, the true danger of a grizzly groden is that it is still an ambush predator: in spite of its hulking size, a groden can stealthily sneak up on a target, and by the time they realize it, it's already too late. It is no coincidence 90% of deaths due to wild groden are caused by the grizzly groden. They primarily live around the Great Lake region.

Fifty-Second Votecount

:

(Eleventh Votecount D4)

rb - 4 (Almost50, Nosferatu, No Retreat, A Song of Ice and Fire)

No Retreat - 3 (Expedience, Bacde, DrippingGoofball)

Bacde - 2 (Wake88, davesaz)
A Song of Ice and Fire - 2 (Toogeloo, Heartless)
Wayward Thinker - 1 (rb)
Nosferatu - 1 (RachMarie)

Not Voting - 3 (Wayward Thinker, Tim, TheWayItEnds)

With

16

alive, it takes

9

to lynch.

Day 4's deadline is Tuesday, August 23rd, @ 9:00 PM PST: (expired on 2016-08-23 21:00:00).
At Deadline,

rb

would be lynched.

Extras

Spoiler: Changes from Last Votecount

Last votecount was post 6825, page 274.

Spoiler: Player Votecount History Day 4

Spoiler: Players Voted D4 History

Spoiler: Voting Chronology Day 4

A Song of Ice and Fire · Post Post #6869 (ISO) » Sat Aug 06, 2016 12:17 am

Is my vote hidden somehow?

~Ice

<<< Oh shush. I was tired, I needed bed. >>>

Almost50 · Post Post #6870 (ISO) » Sat Aug 06, 2016 1:44 am

In post 6844, rb wrote:Case is bad and any town on this wagon should feel bad.

I'm town and I'm not feeling bad at all!

In post 6845, rb wrote:Not to mention this case only seems to occur once I actually question the legitimacy of A50's claims :^)

Exactly! Thank you for proving my "bad" point. My PGO claim has nothing to do with my alignment. You're more concerned about me being a PGO than you are about me being Northern Tribes. It looks -to me- that you are resigned to the fact that I'm both human and town, and thus a recruit candidate, but you're hesitant to attempt to recruit be because of the PGO claim. That IS my point.

I'll give it to you straight: Yes, I'm human. Yes, I belong to the Northern Tribes Faction, and YES if you try to recruit me you will end up dead. If you try to kill me it will come with a cost too. And with how things have been going I certainly don't mind a one-for-one trade.

Also: Any half-decent player knows a PGO does NOT make it to LyLo anyway, so I could become a policy lynch at some point. However, it looks like we're doing fine and we may not get to close to LyLo, which IS one more point that makes me wary of you. If you know that I would be lynched if things start going down for the town, why do you concern yourself so much with me being a PGO? My role only affects your NIGHT action, but not your ability to vote/lynch me at any time, so where is your problem?

rb · Post Post #6871 (ISO) » Sat Aug 06, 2016 1:47 am

In post 6866, No Retreat wrote:RB pls talk to me about how or how not WT is a counterwagon to Exp.

What do you mean?

Both WT and Expedience are scumreads for me, they should both die as far as I'm concerned.

RachMarie · Post Post #6872 (ISO) » Sat Aug 06, 2016 1:50 am

not seeing the rb case or the one on Nero

going to bounce some thoughts of wake though he is v/la sigh

rb · Post Post #6873 (ISO) » Sat Aug 06, 2016 1:51 am

In post 6870, Almost50 wrote:
In post 6844, rb wrote:Case is bad and any town on this wagon should feel bad.
I'm town and I'm not feeling bad at all!

In post 6845, rb wrote:Not to mention this case only seems to occur once I actually question the legitimacy of A50's claims :^)
Exactly! Thank you for proving my "bad" point. My PGO claim has nothing to do with my alignment. You're more concerned about me being a PGO than you are about me being Northern Tribes. It looks -to me- that you are resigned to the fact that I'm both human and town, and thus a recruit candidate, but you're hesitant to attempt to recruit be because of the PGO claim. That IS my point.

I'll give it to you straight: Yes, I'm human. Yes, I belong to the Northern Tribes Faction, and YES if you try to recruit me you will end up dead. If you try to kill me it will come with a cost too. And with how things have been going I certainly don't mind a one-for-one trade.

Also: Any half-decent player knows a PGO does NOT make it to LyLo anyway, so I could become a policy lynch at some point. However, it looks like we're doing fine and we may not get to close to LyLo, which IS one more point that makes me wary of you. If you know that I would be lynched if things start going down for the town, why do you concern yourself so much with me being a PGO? My role only affects your NIGHT action, but not your ability to vote/lynch me at any time, so where is your problem?

Problem is that you've claimed Human/Northern Tribes but are obviously deterring people from actually checking with the PGO claim. Maybe this is just how PGO should play, but seems like it'd be easy for scum to pull this. Your play is scummy from my POV, which makes me thing that the PGO claim is indicative of your alignment. This never had anything to do with me caring about the role, it's your alignment I distrust. I want to lynch you because I think you're scum, not because of your role. That's irrelevant.

RachMarie · Post Post #6874 (ISO) » Sat Aug 06, 2016 1:53 am

a50 feels like prickly town

Does anyone think it is possible that we managed to get all of one of the maf factions? Im not a math person how many maf on each side is likely with this player base size?