Gistou (Over!)

[Expedience]

i race checked dave night 2.

if the result was wulden or nosferatu im just assuming this would have a vote tacked on...?

you assume correctly.

Wait, that doesn't make sense. So davesaz is claiming individual lycan which just happens to have a different wincon to all 3 of the other different "individual" factions. k, he's scum then.

And he may not even have shown Lycan to TWIE, in which case he's even more clearly scum.

[davesaz]

Umm, giving my exact "individual faction" wincon would immediately reveal race, which I didn't want to do. So I chose to paraphrase using a town wincon that would leave scum guessing.
You win when all threats to {redacted} are eliminated.

[davesaz]

Why didn't Bacde question it? If anyone

should have

...

[Heartless]

VOTE: davesaz

[Expedience]

Umm, giving my exact "individual faction" wincon would immediately reveal race, which I didn't want to do. So I chose to paraphrase using a town wincon that would leave scum guessing.
You win when all threats to {redacted} are eliminated.

Or you could've just said that you win if threats to the invidual [race] faction are eliminated?

I don't believe you.

Is your flavor Nicholas Schroder?

Bacde is claiming undead risen slave and he has the same wincon that you fakeclaimed

[davesaz]

I know my race and faction offhand, have not read my role pm since the game started. Why would flavor matter?
I didn't fakeclaim anything, I paraphrased incorrectly -- because I didn't bother to copy it from my role pm.

[Expedience]

You can't have simultaneously forgotten about your wincon and have deliberately lied about it to (somehow) avoid outing your race and "keep scum guessing".

[davesaz]

Look, nobody accuses me of lying about "how" I do things. I paraphrased to not reveal info. All you need to know is that it's town. I picked one of the well known town ones, without going back to see the exact wording, because thats what I am. I think I posted that they're all town back when so many people were confused.

[mastin2]

trivia

The Eastern Kingdom was a constitutional monarchy. The King or Queen is no mere figurehead, but they shared power with parliament.

Fifty-sixth Votecount

:

(Fifteenth Votecount D4)

davesaz - 4 (Expedience, Bacde, DrippingGoofball, Heartless)

Bacde - 3 (Wake88, davesaz, Wayward Thinker)

Tim - 2 (RachMarie, Toogeloo)
Wayward Thinker - 1 (rb)
rb - 1 (Nosferatu)
Expedience - 1 (No Retreat)

Not Voting - 4 (Tim, TheWayItEnds, A Song of Ice and Fire, Almost50)

With

16

alive, it takes

9

to lynch.

Day 4's deadline is Tuesday, August 23rd, @ 9:00 PM PST: (expired on 2016-08-23 21:00:00).
At Deadline,

davesaz

would be lynched.

Known Player V/LAs:

• Wake88
  (End: August 12th, 2016)

[Expedience]

So basically i win with town but im not explictly town then?
The win con looked like normal town win con to me.

there's no functional difference between being town and winning with the town

Im confused by what BBMolla's going on about.

There is nothing that states winning with humans = town.

I interpreted the setup posts to imply that there may be multiple factions with "when all threats eliminated" type wincons. They would all be "town" in a loosely defined way.

ehh. There's nothing inconsistent in davesaz's ISO I can see.

We

could

always just lynch Nosferatu.

[Expedience]

Umm, giving my exact "individual faction" wincon would immediately reveal race, which I didn't want to do. So I chose to paraphrase using a town wincon that would leave scum guessing.
You win when all threats to {redacted} are eliminated.

I always hate having to make decisions in situations like this (see: salt squad) because it makes my gut biased to think they are town.

[No Retreat]

Sorry for the inactivity. Been sick. I'll post something later today after I get a little rest.

[rb]

So I guess this is gonna be another, "we're not lynching Wayward" day. Sigh.

[Nosferatu]

where did nos disappear to?

sleep.

[Nosferatu]

there's also those games I'm way more involved in

[RachMarie]

ok I feel better about exped

WT I still want rope on

Tim is no longer on V/LA

lets lynch him

[RachMarie]

Nos

stop disappearing

grumble grumble I am also waiting a bit for Wake to come back hes not very active right now in our mason thread cause he is v/la

[Nosferatu]

yes, lets claim and give scum more information. Stop shit posting.

but if i'm scum how does it give scum more information? ',:^)

I'm so confused by this post

Don't cult me

the fuck?

omg No Retreat is the cultl leader, kill it

Everyone vote No Retreat to force him to claim, he's way too guarded about that

the fuck??

^^^i like you

what even

Everyone No Retreat has come out pushing is town, including Wake, Bacde, me, rb (who can only be culted town and can't be cult leader most likely)

Therefore, he is scum and you should vote him.

uhh ok taking exp out of my scumspect pool

yeah the individual is a thing and they are allied with town. from what I have seen in the flips.

and your reason for wanting to out me?

Freelo from process of elimination

pedit: he didn't do anything

how the fuck

I had a mod error with one of my reports as well btw. It's a big-ass game where every single player has a night action, some multiple night actions. It's not that unreasonable and I don't think mod error is a good reason to scumread someone.

Instead we should lynch Wayward Thinker or Expedience so we can win the game.

it bothers me that the two people I've been scumreading since D1 are the same targets as probable scum

i race checked dave night 2.

if the result was wulden or nosferatu im just assuming this would have a vote tacked on...?

you assume correctly.

Wait, that doesn't make sense. So davesaz is claiming individual lycan which just happens to have a different wincon to all 3 of the other different "individual" factions. k, he's scum then.

...VOTE: dave

this isn't over

[Nosferatu]

VOTE: tim

yeah tim is too much coasting I can see this really well

VOTE: Tim

what did toog do?

we could lynch toog

Lynch the guy who's been white knighting you! Your whole demeanor has gotten quite rough as of late though, and you're posting without reading evidently. I think I'm done being nice to you, you can sleep in whatever bed you make.

I tried to Bodyguard Luna Night 2. You didn't see me, apparently.

Unvote;
Vote: Tim

what's the origin of this tim wagon? Or am I just this far out of the loop?

dont forget my mason buddy wake, bacde

I'm also confirmed town

When did that happen?

[Bacde]

Umm, giving my exact "individual faction" wincon would immediately reveal race, which I didn't want to do. So I chose to paraphrase using a town wincon that would leave scum guessing.
You win when all threats to {redacted} are eliminated.

Question what?

I probably didn't see it or just wanted to Lynch you and didn't see the point of convincing myself further that you are scum

[Bacde]

oh you think he is scum when he and I have confirmed each other as masons, ok

Kinda like him thinking I'm wulden when his mason partner said I'm undead =p

[Bacde]

what did toog do?

we could lynch toog

Lynch the guy who's been white knighting you! Your whole demeanor has gotten quite rough as of late though, and you're posting without reading evidently. I think I'm done being nice to you, you can sleep in whatever bed you make.

I tried to Bodyguard Luna Night 2. You didn't see me, apparently.

Unvote;
Vote: Tim

Sorry buddy I forgot,

Plus I didn't even vote you chill apparently.my heart wasn't in it

[Nosferatu]

Umm, giving my exact "individual faction" wincon would immediately reveal race, which I didn't want to do. So I chose to paraphrase using a town wincon that would leave scum guessing.
You win when all threats to {redacted} are eliminated.

What you claimed is not something you would claim if you wanted to keep your race hidden. Only the undead have that wincon.

[Bacde]

Are you undead nos?

[Bacde]

How do you know only undead have that wincon?