Gistou (Over!)

[RachMarie]

Wake is my mason buddy he is NOT my twin we do not agree on everything.

uhh Nos Wake and I outted each other about 20 or 30 pages ago I think it was

[Nosferatu]

Are you undead nos?

How do you know only undead have that wincon?

because I read the flips?

Wake is my mason buddy he is NOT my twin we do not agree on everything.

uhh Nos Wake and I outted each other about 20 or 30 pages ago I think it was

ok?

[Bacde]

??

I don't understand why you think that only ppl who died are the only possible win cons in this game

We haven't even seen destroyer of worlds

[Nosferatu]

??

I don't understand why you think that only ppl who died are the only possible win cons in this game

true, there could be other wincons, but out of the six factions that have flipped, there's only been one that had the human treaty wincon.

[RachMarie]

there is no destroyer of worlds it was a gambit I went along with it even though I thought it was silly of Wake to do

[RachMarie]

so far I would not rule out others

it seems logical that there are other individuals who are not human but allied with human and win with humans through the treaty wincon.

[RachMarie]

Dmitri was as close to a destroyer of worlds as it gets and mathblade (dimitri) flipped wulden maf team

[Toogeloo]

there is no actual controversy over my slot at this point

its all made up by people who haven't read a post in over 100 pages

The irony...

[Heartless]

so far I would not rule out others

it seems logical that there are other individuals who are not human but allied with human and win with humans through the treaty wincon.

"Other"?
Who's the other?

[Heartless]

??

I don't understand why you think that only ppl who died are the only possible win cons in this game

true, there could be other wincons, but out of the six factions that have flipped, there's only been one that had the human treaty wincon.

Exactly. And they weren't "individual" anything.

[RachMarie]

do you think that with the other types of flips we have that there was just one individual vamp doc that had the human treaty as a wincon?

Or are you saying you think the D1 lynch flip is part of the wulden or the isolationist factions even though he flipped grey not black or red?

[Heartless]

What are you talking about Rach?

You win when all threats to the Individual Vampire faction have been eliminated.

This was the individual vampire win condition.
No mention of human treaty.

[RachMarie]

uggh I will go reread

this game its so hard to keep track of shit

[RachMarie]

uggh you are right sorry

I swear I need a flipping spreadsheet with this game and I dont even LIKE spreadsheets

[RachMarie]

I would love to know what the redacted part is though.

still I dont see him as being with either mafia team and I doubt he was an SK since he was a doc

so he must have been with town

[Heartless]

Win condition wasn't redacted for anyone. The only flips that include the "human treaty" clause are those undead "risen slaves."

The whole "I'm individual but I win with the human treaty" are what LLD and Ceph barfed out and look what they flipped. dave's trying to walk it back now but I'm not buying.

[RachMarie]

hmmm

I wish wake would get back of vla it sucks having someone to talk to but hes not there to talk to uggh

[Toogeloo]

Unvote;
Vote: davesaz

Tim is good too, but I'll go where ever the most support is.

[TheWayItEnds]

Just to clarify, we're disregarding my result because you don't like how he phrased his claim?

[RachMarie]

I cant find in your iso

what was the result of your race check on dave?

[Bacde]

there is no actual controversy over my slot at this point

its all made up by people who haven't read a post in over 100 pages

The irony...

Hey man my misses are due to the game being confusing not to not reading like a lot of ppl

[mastin2]

trivia

The Eastern Kingdom had the worst divide in social classes. Its ruling elite were the brownskin aristocrats, a minority in the total population, and other ethnic groups were of lower importance. They were not, however, without representation, as parliament was a two-house system and the brownskins only controlled one of them.

Fifty-seventh Votecount

:

(Sixteenth Votecount D4)

davesaz - 6 (Expedience, Bacde, DrippingGoofball, Heartless, Nosferatu, Toogeloo)

Bacde - 3 (Wake88, davesaz, Wayward Thinker)

Tim - 1 (RachMarie)
Wayward Thinker - 1 (rb)
Expedience - 1 (No Retreat)

Not Voting - 4 (Tim, TheWayItEnds, A Song of Ice and Fire, Almost50)

With

16

alive, it takes

9

to lynch.

Day 4's deadline is Tuesday, August 23rd, @ 9:00 PM PST: (expired on 2016-08-23 21:00:00).
At Deadline,

davesaz

would be lynched.

Known Player V/LAs:

• Wake88
  (End: August 12th, 2016)

[Almost50]

OK, I'll vote davesaz on faith. I trust (most) of the people voting there, and I have nothing special to keep me from voting him.

VOTE: davesaz

[Almost50]

@TWIE:

Your check returned a RACE, not a FACTION. As we have established that race/location/nation do not necessarily lead to certain factions we have to evaluate other info, and dave claimed and individual "something" that has a "treaty" win con, then he altered his claim when pointed out individuals have "eliminate all threats to your faction" win con.

[Wayward Thinker]

I don't understand why this has to be a Black or White thing. This game is already convoluted enough. To quote Boromir, "One simply does not simply have a Scum or Town read on every player in this game."

That is what is making this game so difficult. We are spending a lot of our hydra time talking about how to read and understand people and the game.