Gistou (Over!)

[RachMarie]

Nos

stop disappearing

grumble grumble I am also waiting a bit for Wake to come back hes not very active right now in our mason thread cause he is v/la

[RachMarie]

Wake is my mason buddy he is NOT my twin we do not agree on everything.

uhh Nos Wake and I outted each other about 20 or 30 pages ago I think it was

[RachMarie]

there is no destroyer of worlds it was a gambit I went along with it even though I thought it was silly of Wake to do

[RachMarie]

so far I would not rule out others

it seems logical that there are other individuals who are not human but allied with human and win with humans through the treaty wincon.

[RachMarie]

Dmitri was as close to a destroyer of worlds as it gets and mathblade (dimitri) flipped wulden maf team

[RachMarie]

do you think that with the other types of flips we have that there was just one individual vamp doc that had the human treaty as a wincon?

Or are you saying you think the D1 lynch flip is part of the wulden or the isolationist factions even though he flipped grey not black or red?

[RachMarie]

uggh I will go reread

this game its so hard to keep track of shit

[RachMarie]

uggh you are right sorry

I swear I need a flipping spreadsheet with this game and I dont even LIKE spreadsheets

[RachMarie]

I would love to know what the redacted part is though.

still I dont see him as being with either mafia team and I doubt he was an SK since he was a doc

so he must have been with town

[RachMarie]

hmmm

I wish wake would get back of vla it sucks having someone to talk to but hes not there to talk to uggh

[RachMarie]

I cant find in your iso

what was the result of your race check on dave?

[RachMarie]

I still want to know what race he got back in his result

Way could you answer that for me pretty please with sugar on top?

[RachMarie]

thank you that is what I needed way


VOTE: Wayward Thinker

[RachMarie]

vote WT

[RachMarie]

dave came back as race human verified by someone I am town reading

so Im pursuing another scum read

simple

[RachMarie]

1. I can always check his race myself since Im a free checker

2. I can check way's race for same reason

3. I have a much stronger scum read on WT.

[RachMarie]

wake is town jeez

can we move on

[RachMarie]

I am not wulden neither is Wake and most definitely not bacde

Bacde is undead, that does not prevent him from being in a faction with wulden it just means his race is not wulden.

good grief I am town reading you A 50 but you need to get a grip

[RachMarie]

I am not culted jeeze I did not say I completely believe bacde I said his race was undead I did not say he was not of the wulden faction

both Wake and I have our doubts about him being aligned with town.

[RachMarie]

Alexis is for the humans and I dont think he would have picked that name out by random and I dont think that name would be a fake role claim there is just too much about Alexis for it to not be a real player in the game. It would be like having Dimitri be the destroyer of worlds that wake made up out of whole cloth to try to trick scum into stumbling

He really was disappointed that none of the scumz took the bait

[RachMarie]

Nero put away the tin foil I never cleared bacde as scum I just said he came back with a result as undead. That does not rule out the possibility that his wincon is the same as the wulden FACTION

Part of what makes this game confusing is race is one thing faction is another and the names may be different

so you can have undead aligned with humans as a FACTION and still have an undead who is not part of the FACTION that is kind of what a spy or traitor role is. It is even possible as it is sometimes with traitor roles that bacde is unaware he is a traitor. I am not saying that is the case, I am just pointing out that my clearing him as the RACE of undead is not a 100% clear on FACTION and WINCON

So please stop saying I am defending him peeps.

[RachMarie]

and I would totally be fine with you using your vig shot on bacde

[RachMarie]

bacde i did not say you were confirmed scum I said you were not 100% confirmed town just because I got a race read on you. Not in a game like this where not everyone is in the same faction as their race. We had a vamp flip in the isolationist faction remember?

Do take a chill pill please. Seriously there are worse things than dying like scum winning this game

[RachMarie]

because I am partly convinced you are an undead traitor in the wulden faction

but not completely convinced

and Im tired of people making the assumption I basically completely cleared you I want to make sure people accurately understand my report

[RachMarie]

Dude

would you stop

seriously

stop

ate like that just makes me want to see you lynched with fire.

We have people seriously considering lynching MASONS because they think I fake claimed a 100% confirmed TOWN read on you. I am just making it clear I DID NOT CONFIRM YOU AS TOWN

jeeze I doubt you will get lynched or vigged. Pretty sure Nero is gonna vig the person he thinks is most scummy

[RachMarie]

sigh

not you dude at least three other people who I have as town reads

look the ONLY people in this game even of my town and scum reads I am 100% on are the flipped players
and Wake everyone else is still under some level of suspicion

and when you respond like this instead of expecting some suspicion as NORMAL in a game like this

YOU MAKE IT MORE LIKELY YOU WILL GET LYNCHED

uggh the AtE here

[RachMarie]

Like Nero is gonna do anything I tell him to do

seriously dude you are missing the point

your AtE and franticness is far more likely to get you killed off by town than anything i say

My point though is i can not completely clear anyone just with my free checker.

Mastin has made the game complex enough that race location or nation do not by themselves give you enough data.

[RachMarie]

I am not SURE
if you want it in percentages Im about 30 % scum 70% town

I am trying to get it through some townie skulls that my stating you are undead as a race has NO BEARING on faction

Nero knows me well enough he is not gonna vig you on my say so. He will pick his target based on who he wants I was annoyed with you though over the AtE and your insistence that my result cleared you no it did NOT and that is why I have you at 30% your AtE and trying to misrep my result to the point where townies are buying into it

STOP IT


meanwhile he needs to get that tin foil hat off and start thinking. And yeah I am not happy that Exped outed him, but that does not mean Exped is scum not with a claim of Alexis no way no way is Alexis going to be scum. I just don't buy that.

But that aside, also a50 needs to start thinking and stop assuming that my fact checker thing is the same as a bonifide real sane COP it is not,

I pointed out an example that had NOTHING to do with you bacde the Isolationist team is NOT ALL NOS they had a genuine vamp in their midst.

[RachMarie]

we are not cultable its part of the benefit of us being masons would kind of defeat the purpose if we could be culted.

[RachMarie]

yeah I would rather lynch WT why dave specifically isnt he human/ I am not sure there would be evil humans though this game it is possible I guess. It just seems like humans should be good

[RachMarie]

yeah wt is scummy

Im voting for him

[RachMarie]

err them

[RachMarie]

I would have to double check but i think it was Way who did the checking hang on

[RachMarie]

OK, I guess there isn't much alternative. My own damn fault for just flippantly answering instead of copy/pasting the redacted version from my PM.

Provided his result wasn't messed with, he got Human for a result.

yes i did.

yep way dude checked

[RachMarie]

I like that vote ♥

[RachMarie]

not WT TWIE

[RachMarie]

technically I am a free checker I can check race, location, and nation but only one at a time. I have picked race simply because I was looking for bad guys like some of the nos and the wulden types. I checked bacde because I was scum reading him just like I checked RAM and Titus for the same reason.

[RachMarie]

I think most are just check one of them not all 3, so are a weaker version of what I can do. They are designed to help us sort out the mess and I guess some of the scum have it too?

[RachMarie]

Hopefully you will be back before our hydra has to play in the micro game.

I am so sorry for what you are going through Mastin and I am here if you need me HUGS ♥

[RachMarie]

EBYOP I meant our as in Jiffy and I sorry about the confusion

[RachMarie]

hail oh dear great back up modly person

[RachMarie]

Suddenly this game has become more interesting ROFL

[RachMarie]

wake is not paying attention to our mason thread pout


Trying to get him here and voting WT

[RachMarie]

I only did race checks I could do nation ones but not at the same time

[RachMarie]

that is a 5 on 5 clear dude

[RachMarie]

meh not sure it matters, really the nations have been all over the place as far as the different flips go but my nation is other but then so were a couple others who have flipped town, and the scum come from all over the place, including northern tribes where you are a50, and I am town reading you, so really not sure what that means.

I have been trying to figure out what the nation and location thingies mean but really am clueless so I have been focusing on race more. I want to make sure town wins in this crazy mess.

[RachMarie]

Even race is not perfect as the fact that a vamp flipped in a group of mostly nos related people in the isolationist maf team.

Pure genius on Mastin's part the complexity of this game.


PEDIT

Not me I struggle with spreadsheets uggh give me a good old list anytime. Not super keen on mindmaps though they are popular in my field of mindset and personal development lol

[RachMarie]

yep lol us genius creative types are often cursed (or blessed?) with a touch of madness

[RachMarie]

awww HUGS ♥ rb I think you are pretty cool and am glad you came to the site

[RachMarie]

I know what you mean

hopefully though on Monday in real time, have pity on our backup mod LOL

[RachMarie]

YAY for modly powers

(I guess that means I better behave now...)



@bacde there is in invite button on the list of buttons? :O

[RachMarie]

oh yeah and peeps should vote for WT

Wake is still not responding to the mason thread grumble grumble I even mentioned his nuts and that did not work

Wake vote WT pretty please with sugar on top

[RachMarie]

She may have missed the claim its easy to do with so much going on in this thread

[RachMarie]

how about on WT

[RachMarie]

uhh some of it yeah I will ask when he and his nuts respond again he is on vla

[RachMarie]

I don't have nuts


ohhh you mean my nation and location

[RachMarie]

I have not ruled out the possibility Nero.

[RachMarie]

wake has not posted yet in our thread I told him I needed him
He must really be off the computer on his VLA

[RachMarie]

yeah tim would be a good one both wake and i think he is scummy.

[RachMarie]

ROFL you modly types

[RachMarie]

FINALLY go check our thread dear I have been trying to get your attention

[RachMarie]

both wake and I support a tim lynch We talked about it before he like went vla

[RachMarie]

You really think that Exped is the cult leader? Nero are you drinking?

I am however so yeah you want me to take my rather complex role PM and dissect it for you and Wakes too when Wake has NOT yet responded to my pushes in our thread to speak to me. And I am on my second glass of Merlot.


not happy with him atm so yeah

[RachMarie]

BTW Wake is all for lynching Exped he said that before he went AWOL in the thread.

[RachMarie]

he claimed alexis

who is according to the flavor the one who rounded up all those along with the humans to fight against dimtiri the jerkwad he is and try to save humanity from him and his evil cronies.

How can alexis be evil?

oh and there is no destroyer of worlds Wake made that up

Dmitri is total evil and I am glad he is dead

and low and behold he flipped SCUM

[RachMarie]

there a tipsy pararphrase of my flavor

[RachMarie]

yes according to the flavor we are to protect the humans from dimitri and others who would want them dead.

[RachMarie]

in addition to my free checker instead of just one

I have another ability

I can block one person

I blocked DGB on N 1 Because I thought she might be scum Race checked Titus because I thought she might be scum

I blocked LLD on N 2 cause I thought she was scum race checked RAM and sure enough he was SCUM

I blocked Bacde last night because of the watcher read of me on Luna which made no bloody sense since I had race checked RAM the night before and race checked him as well

[RachMarie]

No not undead like Exp but the flavor makes it clear she is my gf

in for a penny in for a pound full claim

I am Nicholas I risk my life to protect the humans and hunt dimitri and stop him from his nonsense

Wake and I are nos not undead but it is also clear in our role PM that we win with the humans and are not part of the isolationists or the wuldens

we hunt them we protect the humans but Im the one with the power

thanks Nero now the scum will kill me

[RachMarie]

not sure what would have happened if I actually had checked dimitri

probably would have killed me based on the flavor

[RachMarie]

ok opened another tab to look at my thread with wake

he checked badce for nation and came back with eastern

and we have no need for fake claims

he also checked toog and got northern tribes
and he checked A 50 and got nothern tribes

he also thinks the fact that A50 claimed PGO is probably right and is why so many deaths.

he wanted to lynch tim and was fine with my scum read on WT

[RachMarie]

about time you showed up wake

[RachMarie]

and yes we dont have to kill anyone to win i just hate dimitri for what he did to my gf lol

[RachMarie]

Now can we PLEASE lynch the scum WT?

[RachMarie]

what you all knew my name and that alexis was my gf?

[RachMarie]

yeah but we are masons NOW

not just neighbors

[RachMarie]

NERO

basically Im like a jk which since we lost the jk would have really helped later when we got down to one scum left in the game

[RachMarie]

and it is a 1 shot thingy basically I saved Wakes life

so yeah I used it when it became clear I needed help to sort out this game.

but everything else I have done pr wise was to help town win this game.

Unfortunately there were too many deaths to claim blocking LLD clearly someone else did the faction kill

same with RAM

[RachMarie]

A 50 is nothern tribes his pgo does not work on northern tribes

So wake checked him before I recruited

he did not die

pretty sure A 50 is telling the truth

[RachMarie]

ok opened another tab to look at my thread with wake

he checked badce for nation and came back with eastern

and we have no need for fake claims

he also checked toog and got northern tribes

and he checked A 50 and got nothern tribes

he also thinks the fact that A50 claimed PGO is probably right and is why so many deaths.

he wanted to lynch tim and was fine with my scum read on WT

[RachMarie]

Nero there are his checks

[RachMarie]

no I checked titus got human

checked RAM got nos and that he was SCUM had he not died in the night I was gonna so get him lynched uggh

And then checked bacde as well as blocked him and got undead

[RachMarie]

div something lol

[RachMarie]

ohhh forgot about that so my block would be worthless on her anyways

I thought maybe RAM had killed Luna and that was why the cockeyed result that bacde stated.

I mean I blocked him and someone did die but it was dimitri. and no other deaths. That has been driving me crazy since dimitri was wulden figured isolationist killed him

and it is why I kept going back to scum reading Bacde I mean I seriously doubt the wulden faction ended with the deaths we have so far. there should have been 2 deaths?

[RachMarie]

umm may have been mostly flavor but Nicholas had a horrified reaction to nos RAM so I assumed that meant he was scum

individual nos
Dvi something
and
Other

hope that clarifies things

[RachMarie]

claim WT

my gf has spoken lol

[RachMarie]

hey at least my heart is in the right place even if i was useless to stop dimitri

[RachMarie]

YES

exactly

[RachMarie]

so can we now stop forcing town players to claim and focus on lynching the last of the scum teams?

[RachMarie]

HUGS♥ Mastin sorry you are going through all of this hon, you know I am here for you, love you.

[RachMarie]

I could buy that and I know Wake was already on board for lynching Tim

[RachMarie]

like i said it could have been flavor but the result made it very clear that Nicholas was not happy but terrified to find a nos in RAM and in general the flavor indicated for a long time, until he turned Wake to save wake's life, that he had a very lonely path and was very much against the rest of his kind and FOR the humans at all costs, even to himself.

That was enough for me to push RAM as a scum read the next day along with the reason I suspected him in the first place the way he was trying to prevent LLD's lynch.

Then instead he was killed and did flip scum.

[RachMarie]

ROFL yeah that is funny

basically Im some kind of outcast from my own peeps, Nos they hate humans and i love them and hunt to protect them. My gf was captured by dimitri and she like got a bunch of us together to help build a world safe for humans (that new treaty), Yeah and exped is my gf

this game is totally nuts

[RachMarie]

A 50 did you get mine and Wakes answers?

Also I know dav said he checked me and got other. us

[RachMarie]

Wait you are expecting anything in this convoluted game to make sense

[RachMarie]

after this game is over we really should nominate Mastin she totes deserves it

[RachMarie]

well you heard the man

I guess A50 you have time to do more trying to make sense of the game

[RachMarie]

Mastin HUGS ♥ So sorry for your loss

yeah atm Jiffy is like pretty out of it doing the bar karioke things so don't expect much til tomorrow.

I think we all are waiting to hear info and claim n stuff from WT.

[RachMarie]

ok so when Jiffy wakes up from his hangover lets hammer lol

[RachMarie]

oh FFS

Wake and I are town we win with TOWN not scum

do agree on Tim

[RachMarie]

then tim posts something like that which makes me doubt my scum read

uggh

why don't you post MORE dude both wake and I have been scum reading you

[RachMarie]

it was the tenor of the read

Our wincon is with TOWN we do not with with the Isolationists we do not win with the Wulden

we are not scum

we are Masons basically as we claimed Wake and I asked Mastin about it in our thread.

[RachMarie]

Ice seriously this was why we did not want to bring it up because sure enough peeps are getting off base onto us and this kind of bs will cost town the game stop it

We need to lynch wulden faction (red maf team)
We need to lynch isolationaist faction (black maf team)


then we WIN THE GAME

why is it so hard for peeps to get this

FFS WAKE WAS HUMAN I NEVER SAID I WAS HUMAN

show me where I ever said I was human I double dog dare you

why the he double hockey stick do peeps want to lynch masons

[RachMarie]

I am sorry everyone I lost my cool

for good reason but sigh

I am Nicholas I win with town

I have shared my checks for race my blocks and my reasons for them

Everything I have done in this game INCLUDING saving the life of Wake and turning him nos has been to help town win

let us lynch scum please and thank you I want to see both maf teams dead.

now lets lynch WT

[RachMarie]

Im not wulden uggh hate them

I said Im nos and I hate my own kind too

I have gone after both wulden and nos

sigh


yeah bacde is undead after all titus was human and RAM was nos of the scum variety

[RachMarie]

We specifically asked Mastin if we were now Masons

we did not make it up

Mastin agreed

so yes we are Masons

[RachMarie]

can we please get back to lynching WT

and Tim I said he was undead I also blocked him because I was scum reading him, we only had one death so yeah bacde is NOT 100% clear

I have said that numerous times


Then bacde goes ape when I say it

sigh

[RachMarie]

From our thread

I posted this to Wake

Nero is like a dog with a bone we better claim masons

[RachMarie]

from our thread also posted by me

F it they are just going to ignore the town cop

sigh

I dont want to have to claim JK because shit even though I am I also know its not always as good as cop especially when there are still multiple mafia out there.

uggh I just KNOW bacde is scum his fake result on me trying to hint I killed Luna instead of checking RAM.

these people are giving me a headache.

[RachMarie]

THAT is why I both blocked and checked bacde

[RachMarie]

Pretty sure both scum teams will want to kill me so yeah

moving along heartless how about we lynch WT

[RachMarie]

yes A50 was asking for that

[RachMarie]

nero did you see what I said about you that I posted from the PT with Wake

[RachMarie]

lol only cause you know it is true nero you are like a dog with a bone

another sign folks that nero is town nero

[RachMarie]

yes

exactly its a WEAK read

I have never ONCE cleared him

never

[RachMarie]

yes please and ty

[RachMarie]

Nero who should I block to hopefully keep you alive

[RachMarie]

no was not planning on bacde

[RachMarie]

hes getting to it hold on peeps

still recovering from a hangover after all

[RachMarie]

I race checked Heartless got human

I blocked Song because several of their posts seemed rather off and I had a sudden gut scum read on them.

Wake was not around at the time when I asked for his input in the situation so yeah just went with my gut I guess I messed up

I KNEW there was something off about Nos...

Will go with my gf on my vote

VOTE: rb

[RachMarie]

uhh they did not do anything last night tim I know this because I blocked them?

[RachMarie]

you mean N3 I blocked DGB on N1 and LLD on N2?

[RachMarie]

someone probably checked you A50 that is what Wake and I have discussed in our thread.

Someone who was not northern I mean

[RachMarie]

You are assuming Nos succeeded every night. I get the feeling you probably were not the only failure.

Mine was strictly one shot so I agonized about using it, I almost did not use it at all, but I was concerned about being killed off then not being able to help town. Especially since Math had not yet flipped as Dimitri.

So I went with the strongest human claim I could find someone who could help me solve all this stuffs.

Yeah that is why I chose Wake, I also knew he had already checked A50 and I believed A 50s claim of PGO .
PGO makes sense of some of the deaths.

The one though that STILL drives me nuts is when I blocked Bacde and there was only ONE nk? Why did the other maf team not kill> Its why I kept going back and forth on Bacde being scumz.

PEDIT of course they are town the point of a fake claim is it is a town claim so yeah like say in a game you are Lucius Malfoy, maf role cop and you get a fake claim of say Dean Thomas VT

[RachMarie]

Wake stated he checked you and you came up Northern

[RachMarie]

no I meant when we had 5 deaths, and you might not get notified of it sometimes that happens too.

Im not saying for sure it happened, Im just trying to analyze stuffs

Especially since on N2 I blocked LLD

and yet we had MORE deaths

[RachMarie]

Im kinda surprised that Nero did not shoot my gf last night lol

he probably shot Nos

and Eastern backs up his claim in the thread.

[RachMarie]

hmm I thought he did say that I know he claimed vig

[RachMarie]

you should be safe now we got both maf strongmen

My block should work on anyone else plus your pgoness.

[RachMarie]

ohhh ok lol

[RachMarie]

yep exactly and my ability was a 1 shot in fact in my info on the start of our PT it says that Nicholas (me) after valiantly using my ability to turn him to save his life, states if wake sees me do it to someone else to kill me himself, now that is just flavor of course but lol I love how Mastin writes (and yeah that is still a paraphrase of it.)

just a sec will check

[RachMarie]

Once only I can turn someone into a nos as part of my faction and if it works (another word but paraphrasing here folks) then boom got a PT with them and they join me.

more or less that is what it says.

and individual Nos role blocker and my color is dark grey

I guess that means Im not of the dark side but because of my heritage I cant be totally light either

My personal powah is the full checker being able to check race, nation, or location, and the even more awesome role blocking powah that lets me block everything (but probably not strongman).

I have no killing ability either in faction or personally.

And I, and now Wake, win with town. There is nothing about either scum faction there which was why I was kinda clueless til we had flips from both teams.

[RachMarie]

umm then rb explain why Alexis wants you lynched?

(aka Exped)

[RachMarie]

and ahem I helped lynch LLD after blocking her
I checked RAM and had he not been killed in the night I would have pushed his lynch through

so yeah

I go back to why is my gf pushing YOUR lynch if you are not scumz

PEDIT how could Alexis be a scum role?

[RachMarie]

Alexis is my gf

She helped the humans by bringing people together to fight the good fight against the nasties like Dimitri (leader of the Wulden faction). She was captured by him and tortured. She is the one behind the new treaty to make this place a better place where humans and the handful of us who don't want to kill humans can live in peace and harmony.

Yes I am paraphrasing .

No we are not lovers I have fully claimed I am not a lover just a one shot save a dudes life and he becomes part of my faction and we win with humans. And Wake was the one I saved. I am not sure but based on all the stuff I was given, had I checked dimitri I might have died or something, not sure on that though.

plus I can check all 3 (so a PR there)
and my stronger PR is I can block everything (though I think strongman trumps this so Im glad both maf team's strongmen are dead now).

[RachMarie]

what was Way's claim?

uggh grumble grumble I may have to wait to check ISOs til after wound care.

Hoping that the doc clears me on the compression bandages and we can switch over to compression socks which means no more running back and forth to wound care and I can be civilized again with stuffs

[RachMarie]

oh yeah

race Nos
location is div something which based on flavor seems to be some kind of forest region? Divitias it is.
nation is other


flavor not role though on the lovers I dont die if exped dies or vice versa Just there is a TON in my messages from the mod and role PM about how much I care about her and search to find her and feel guilty I was not strong enough to protect her stuff like that so mostly flavor.

[RachMarie]

yeah nasty awful dimitri who captured and tortured Alexis was Mathblade


rb catch up Nos the player not the faction or the individuals was the cult leader read the flippin flips dude.

Nero shot Nos

[RachMarie]

no he did not

just to make sure that is clear.

1 am dude go get some sleep

[RachMarie]

anyways I will be back later after wound care


ohh I misread I thought you said SONG was the cult leader, my bad.

[RachMarie]

you do realize even if you are right rb, that song did not kill anyone last night?


A50
yeah basically Nicholas is a kinda wimpy hero but his heart is in the right place

and he loves humans and wants to protect them from evil, hes just not very good at it

Before I saved Wakes life he checked A 50 and came up with northern

[RachMarie]

Wake was northern human at the time he visited A 50

Until I found him dying on the road the only way i could heal him was to turn him

its a one shot thingy not related to the cult

[RachMarie]

LOL

its ok dude it happens

[RachMarie]

Wake is a force of nature, why do you think I picked him

[RachMarie]

I figured it out based on the nks dude.

Its the only one of the three that makes sense from you

[RachMarie]

oh and thanks for not killing off my gf

[RachMarie]

Toogeloo, who was Ingrid Wolf, Individual Human Bodyguard, has died N4.

That death means she protected someone most likely you Nero


Heartless, who was Edith Stein, Northern Tribes Neighborizer, has died N4.

I don't see this one as likely to be you I don't think I remember you like hard on scum reading Heartless?


Nosferatu, who was The Other, has died N4.

THiS one is the only one that makes sense from you, especially since I know you are a competent vig, and Nos has been pretty inactive and under the radar plus a few clues here and there that made him seem kind a suspicious.

SO yeah perfect vig choice.

[RachMarie]

well then ty Yume you got the cult leader

[RachMarie]

Blocked song

and checked Heartless because at the end there she was pinging my scumdar and gut reaction, she was human

[RachMarie]

soo based on what we were just told there are humans, there are undeads, there are vamps, there are lycans (werewolves), there are two types of hybrid nos like me which are vamp and lycan, and wuldens who are lycan and undead.

but song claimed undead and VAMP

[RachMarie]

umm A50 that is how bodyguard work they jump in front of the person targeted and literally take the bullet for them and die in their place

[RachMarie]

and they did not kill last night that I know because they were blocked by me

[RachMarie]

VOTE: Song

[RachMarie]

Still there is at least one more who did the kill if we are right about Song

[RachMarie]

or there is one of each team also a possibility

[RachMarie]

so basically its something to do with the lycan that make the other hybrids possible?

[RachMarie]

wait he watched Luna not RAM He stated that he saw me visit LUNA not RAM though it was RAM I checked

WHICH IS WHY THAT NIGHT I both blocked and checked him That plus only ONE death the night I blocked him is why I keep going back and forth on bacde. THE only things I can confirm about bacde is that he is undead by race, and that we were missing a maf death the night he was blocked by me. However that even seems off, since Math was still alive at that time and was dimitri evil bastard strongman.

however Im willing to go with the majority

UNVOTE:


in before bacde has another gasket

[RachMarie]

because RAM was NOS and uncultable

[RachMarie]

basically Im seeing some balance thingies here

A50 can shoot non humans (which may also be true of the other human champions ding ding)

The cult leader plus us human loving individual non humans can recruit humans only

[RachMarie]

if he saw me visitng RAM then why the he double hockey stick did he keep staying I visited Luna

And yeah I have thought for a while that RAM killed Luna I have felt very guilty that I did not both check and block him

[RachMarie]

ty for that you avenged a bit of my error then

still does not bring Luna back

[RachMarie]

ohhhh

Ok now that makes sense A 50 why didnt someone else explain it like that. My reports I get back are more clear

like heart less race is human or
For RAM I got something like this (pararprase here move away from RAM in umm disgust? fear? a word like that basically) from him because he is NOS.

I still am kinda lost at time between redirector and bus driver

[RachMarie]

Relax Ice, it had more to do with the way you said it which did not make sense with what my results were where i do get the name of my target.

I am sorry for misunderstanding and I was at that time not ready to full claim, now I have I can explain my confusion more if that makes sense?

[RachMarie]

well I just posted I get the target name I get flavor about the target. That is why had RAM survived i would have been gunning for him as a lynch the next day. The language on his was very different and much more visceral than on my other results. Basically my character can't stand and is afraid of, and hates anyone of his race.

That may be because instead of a VT type of checker Im a PR checker that can check all three things, race, location, and nation.

Also when I have been a watcher I have always known who my target is and I would get results like no one visited Player NAME, or that Player B NAME visited Player A NAME.

So you saying he did not know the target made no sense to me. I will grant in games where I have been a watcher I was not redirected.

[RachMarie]

My role block is strong though I am not sure it would stand up to a strong man one.

Plus I think if I had checked on dimitri I might have died, but not positive on that its just so much of the flavor was about me trying to hunt him down and finish him off and failing miserably

so not sure how much is flavor and how much is game mechanic on that one.

[RachMarie]

I am not blocked I block my target just to be clear.

[RachMarie]

both strongmen are dead so should be just fine

[RachMarie]

VOTE: rb

[RachMarie]

Song

that would be assuming every single cult action by nos was successful I think its only successful on humans

[RachMarie]

And I already claimed that I blocked you last night and why

[RachMarie]

WAIT A MINUTE

I need to check something in Way's ISO, he should have gotten undead from bacde and unless he got something like I got from RAM how would he know its a guilty?

[RachMarie]

toog died protecting ME

a50 already admitted trying to shoot me

Heartless was the maf kill


PEDIT ok

will check his ISO anyway

[RachMarie]

So if there are no more isolationists (black maf team) left and just one red, plus whomever got culted by Nos does this mean the Nos cult team does not have a nk?

[RachMarie]

My last night check was heartless because some of her posts during the last bit of the day phase just threw me off, So I checked her and she came up human (I say her though because I believe most of those posts were TTH not Anti).

I was originally going to check rb or way actually. Wake was not around much due to RL stuffs so did not have his advice so went with my gut

[RachMarie]

you think the cult team is with the wuldens instead of 3rd party? Im confused here.

could rb just be plain be wulden?

so basically 4/4/1 with 1 being the cult that can expand ?

[RachMarie]

ahh so there was the potential of everyone being culted so you think that is all they can do and they can't kill?

Still they can only recruit humans so there is some check on their power then.

So that was why nos was such a lurky loo hmmm.

[RachMarie]

yeah Im not sure on that either, but Im more concerned over if they can kill or not because if they cant, then we just need to get it down to ONE maf player and my block becomes far more useful.

[RachMarie]

who did you watch last night and what did you see bacde

[RachMarie]

um why did you not watch ?

[RachMarie]

who did you watch

Did anyone visit them, if so, whom

[RachMarie]

WTF???

You can watch yourself? I thought most actions can't be done on self?

And even more importantly WHY would a watcher watch themselves

[RachMarie]

serious ice the word is serious.

I have never played where a watcher watched themselves and as watcher my role pm did not offer that as an option

even if it is an option why the he double hockey stick would a watcher waste a night action on it

He should have watched me

watched the doc claim

watched the vig

any number of other peeps before watching himself.

[RachMarie]

I did not think he was actually saying something like yeah I wasted my power last night watching myself

seriously


I have no words here, no words

[RachMarie]

what do you think about the fact that bacde OUR WATCHER watched HIMSELF?

[RachMarie]

that was not my point my point is, that it was a wasted use of his power uggh

hes derp town most likely, but uggh

[RachMarie]

Well at least hes not calling me intimidating anymore


(goes off to flip some tables...)

[RachMarie]

Not saying it did it just makes me wish I had a 1 shot strongman vig power preferably a DAYVIG one.

[RachMarie]

yeah that is a good possibility after all nos was the cult leader, he would have good reasons to lie.

[RachMarie]

I want to throw rotten tomatoes at bacde believe me I do.

[RachMarie]

Just come out and say it A50 instead of dancing around the edges, you are asking for full mass claims

starting with the location nation race stuffs

then finally the roles

Pedit Im Nicholas, bf to Alexis, individual nos roleblocker free checker (which means I can check any of the three of race, nation, location) I also had a one shot recruitment to my faction which I used to save Wake's life by turning him also individual nos and making us masons basically.

I have no killing ability and we win with the humans.

[RachMarie]

yeah the redirection was done on bacde I can confirm that since I checked on RAM not Luna

[RachMarie]

yeah as long as I dont die LOL

toog already took a bullet for me as it is

and scum will want me dead for sure uggh

[RachMarie]

A50 admitted she shot me, toog is dead and I am here

Elementary, my dear nero

[RachMarie]

um NERO OPEN YOUR EARS SHE TARGETED ME dude

[RachMarie]

oops sorry just finished the blood pressure report for the client

meant he

[RachMarie]

And nero I believe you had a full doc protecting you

so yeah

[RachMarie]

uggh I could go for some dave has he even posted recently? I bloody forgot he was in this game

[RachMarie]

i can vouch that Wake was northern human before I jacked him as he called it in the PT

[RachMarie]

no I was just saying if one of the human claims is fake it is not wake thats all

how is that handy dandy spreadsheet coming along?

[RachMarie]

ahem a50 and his handy dandy spreadsheet and I are voting for rb I believe, song

Is there some way to convince you I and wake are flipping town? Seriously Im as close to a jk as we have since someone nked BB