Gistou (Over!)

[RachMarie]

oh and thanks for not killing off my gf

[Expedience]

I like how since Day 1 I wanted a WT and RAM lynch (so I'm obv not Isolationist) - I out Nosferatu (the player) as the most likely Cult Leader (so I'm obv not cult) and I was willing to lynch LLD (Wulden) and people are gonna vote me. Me thinking Mathblade (Wulden) was town was shit and that's fine if people agree with that but we had really good reason to think that race alone wasn't a good indicator of scum. Obviously it's a better indicator than I realised and we CAN to an extent trust it and it'll be more accurate than I thought. From Mastin's wording I really thought it was gonna be a total mixed bag but clearly Nosferatu/Wulden are decent indicators of likely scum.

How fucking coincidental that the "masons" in Rach/Wake want to lynch the person who called out the Cult Leader on Day 3 and that ASOIAF has also been on my case about me being likely "culted" since my call out on Nosferatu visiting her, when it turns out my suspicions were completely legit in the end and I was right that Nosferatu was cult leader.

Maybe ASOIAF isn't cult and she's uncultable, but wtf scum faction do people think I'm supposed to be? Only realistic choice is Wulden because I'm blatantly not Cult/Isolationist. So if you think my play is scummy, make a case because this shit is weak and I'll bet my left nut that either Rach/Wake claims are fake or ASOIAF claims are fake. If they aren't and you're town, pls stop being useless by pressuring my slot which has had more good reads and lynched more scum than any other slot in the game. Ty.

Wulden claim

ASOIAF's claim is unbelievable.

[RachMarie]

Toogeloo, who was Ingrid Wolf, Individual Human Bodyguard, has died N4.

That death means she protected someone most likely you Nero


Heartless, who was Edith Stein, Northern Tribes Neighborizer, has died N4.

I don't see this one as likely to be you I don't think I remember you like hard on scum reading Heartless?


Nosferatu, who was The Other, has died N4.

THiS one is the only one that makes sense from you, especially since I know you are a competent vig, and Nos has been pretty inactive and under the radar plus a few clues here and there that made him seem kind a suspicious.

SO yeah perfect vig choice.

[No Retreat]

THANKS! but it was actually Yume that sent in the Nos kill but I guess I get some credit for not changing it and killing RB like I wanted. My shots have been kinda crummy this game but I skipped most of d2-d3 lol.

[No Retreat]

ALL GLORY TO YUME!

[RachMarie]

well then ty Yume you got the cult leader

[No Retreat]

What were your actions last night?

[RachMarie]

Blocked song

and checked Heartless because at the end there she was pinging my scumdar and gut reaction, she was human

[Almost50]

Are you all caught up now, Nero? If so, what do you think of the case on Tim, and especially so regarding the fake claim and it being similar to the fake claim previously provided to Math?

[A Song of Ice and Fire]

@Expe

Then kill me!

I mean I understand the pov. I'm not trying to servive I'm just telling the truth. shoot me or whatever. just act careful cuase there are wuldens (maybe isolationists) and some culted people out there and the game might end in lylo or even a loose soon. so if I'm going to die at least make my death vig counted.

if I'm not ; thats better. ask me whatever questions you have about me and I will tell you. all my actions sinsce day 1 was becuase of my weird mixed role.

no retreat i'm not cult but i can see why you might suspect it. I claimed my race and my role in this way. at least give me the benifit of the doubt and interact with me over it.

[Expedience]

:^)

filthy

Both of them are scum I am sure. Let's lynch one and vig the other.

you didnt return wulden n1.

Okay let's lynch rb and shoot ASOIAF

[A Song of Ice and Fire]

and yeah rb is scum

that miller claim is obvious bullshit.

I think Tim is scum too; the way he constructed his claim today is weird and sketchy as fuck . get him after ward.

[A Song of Ice and Fire]

even though have no pc I will be around to answer anything about me.

don't just rush the day without sorting everyone out.

THIS MIGHT BE LYLO

[A Song of Ice and Fire]

Mylo i mean

[A Song of Ice and Fire]

all of the today posts were from Ice

who is currently going to sleep

[Almost50]

OK, since Town are obviously playing some other game:

I think we might have started with 4 Isolationists, 4 Wuldens & 1 Cult for Scum. 4 Undead for Survivours (win with the Human Treaty means when one of either sides win + one of them must survive = Survivour role). That's 13 non-town aligned vs 15 TOWN (Mastina's guarantee for town to have the majority at the start of the game).

That would probably be 3 of each of The West, East & North faction & 4 of the Individual Humans (that's why their killing role is passive rather than active, and why they have a negative utility .. i.e. miller), plus an individual Vampire and an individual Nosferatu (also tricky bc Isolationists are mainly Nosferatu, so one Nosferatu as town vs one Vampire being scum to cause more confusion for town Race Cops.)

And in case some of you STILL won't get it, 3 Northern Individuals: Heartless already flipped, Wake got recruited, and the 3rd one is ME: Adrian Burkhard.

On N1 I targeted BBMolla with my kill. He was Human though, so when he flipped I had to double check with Mastina to verify I used the correct action. In short, I didn't kill him (but I suspect Isolationists did bc he said he was “non-Human from the West” which translates as WULDEN).

On N2 I believe I killed Cephrir.

On N3 I targeted Nos and he didn't die; leading me to believe he was Human. Now I see he had a passive immunity on that night according to his role PM.

On N4 I believe I killed Toogeloo as I was targeting RachMarie and she didn't die despite her acknowledging not being Human. That or I may have been Roleblocked.

So, when someone who doesn't want to use that tool inside their skull to decide where I'm coming from: Yes, I did fake a PGO claim to deter NKs so far. It worked thus far.

I said I won't be lynched bc I could claim anytime and that would stop the lynch bc I believe we're still in control. I won't be killed either bc I still have my 1-shot Bullet Proof (that I got night one bc Titus died) intact, and both strongmen are already dead.

I'll resign to bed now while you guys try to work it out between yourselves.

We started with 7 of each nation (East, West, North and Other). and All 3 bad Nosferatu where from the North (which does go with the freaking flavour, to those who thought flavour means nothing!). The 4th Isolationist was a Vampire AND from West.

As for the Wulden, they should be from the West (as per the flavour), but with those already flipped I think they might be from Other nation (making it 3 Other .. which is SOUTH of the map + 1 West).

The Map (according to flavour):

Erimos - North - Other
West - Lake - East
Ridge - ???? - Divitias

The ??? (south) is where "Other Nations" come from. The "Other" to the North East is a Location.

Undead are from the East (mostly), Wuldens are supposedly Western (but as I explained would likely be Other Nation) and Nosferatu are from the North.

Northerners come from Erimos, Other or Lake (again, mostly). Easterners are from the Divitias or Other, while Westerners are from The Ridgge or Erimos.

If anybody's interested they can make a table of players with Race, Location, Nation and Faction columns .. or can do it as a map and mark the flips of the dead and claims of the living players and compare to try and figure it out.

My vote stays on Tim for the time being until someone -somehow- manages to give a better argument.

Good Night.

[mastin2]

MOD: is it possible to have more than one attribute for race?

Uh. Depends on your definition. Nosferatu are a hybrid race between lycans and vampires. Wuldens are a hybrid race between lycans and undead. So, a nosferatu is half-lycan, half-vampire; a wulden is half-lycan, half-undead. However, they are not classified as being "half-lycan, half-vampire"/"half-lycan, half-undead"; they are classified as nosferatu, and wulden. These are the known crossbreeds. Hope that helps.

[DrippingGoofball]

VOTE: Tim

[mastin2]

trivia

"Is it a bear?"
"No."
"Is it a cat?"
"No...it's a Groden."
"

FUCK!

"

--Most common vulgar variant on The Groden Joke.

Seventy-second Votecount

:

(First Votecount D5)

rb - 4 (Expedience, RachMarie, A Song of Ice and Fire, No Retreat)

Almost50 - 2 (Bacde, rb)

Tim - 2 (Almost50, DrippingGoofball)

Not Voting - 4 (davesaz, Wake88, TheWayItEnds, Tim)

With

12

alive, it takes

7

to lynch.

Day 5's deadline is Thursday, September 8th, @ 9:00 PM PST: (expired on 2016-09-08 21:00:00).
At Deadline,

rb

would be lynched.

Known Player V/LAs:

• No Retreat
  (August 15th - August 19th, 2016)

[RachMarie]

soo based on what we were just told there are humans, there are undeads, there are vamps, there are lycans (werewolves), there are two types of hybrid nos like me which are vamp and lycan, and wuldens who are lycan and undead.

but song claimed undead and VAMP

[RachMarie]

umm A50 that is how bodyguard work they jump in front of the person targeted and literally take the bullet for them and die in their place

[Expedience]

What they claimed is impossible, that's like being a mermaid and a centaur at the same time, which is impossible.

[RachMarie]

and they did not kill last night that I know because they were blocked by me

[rb]

Is anyone gonna counter-claim ASOIAF though or are we gonna lynch them because the claim is so insane and not worry about it?

[rb]

So A50 is Northern Tribes champion? PGO claim makes sense then I guess.