Gistou (Over!)

[A Song of Ice and Fire]

YOur welcome!

I'm trying to tell you this sinsce day 3 but your not listening to me in any manner ....

If you bleieve that then you fucking know I wasn't culted back then and I have a killing thing like other champions

[Almost50]

Almsot 50 this is going to be my last mafia game

(at least for a long time)

~Ice

Can we talk about this privately after the game?? PLEASE? My "Mafia Wolrd" will never be the same w/o you, and you -of all- know that to be true. You're my "mafia twin" ever since we started playing. It felt like we were born on the same day when we both started playing mafia in the same game, so please let's just talk about it later 9i.e. be available online for me to talk to you). THANK YOU.

[Almost50]

if he saw me visitng RAM then why the he double hockey stick did he keep staying I visited Luna

And yeah I have thought for a while that RAM killed Luna I have felt very guilty that I did not both check and block him

He targeted Luna. He got redirected to RAM. He saw you targeting his target. He thought you targeted Luna (his original target), but he -in fact- was watching RAM (redirected to him). He got "You TARGET got visited by Rach" and didn't expect it to be a redirection, so in his mind you visited Luna.

[Bacde]

unvote

[RachMarie]

ohhhh

Ok now that makes sense A 50 why didnt someone else explain it like that. My reports I get back are more clear

like heart less race is human or
For RAM I got something like this (pararprase here move away from RAM in umm disgust? fear? a word like that basically) from him because he is NOS.

I still am kinda lost at time between redirector and bus driver

[A Song of Ice and Fire]

FGS RACH

I WAS TELLING THAT SINSCE DAY 3

I'm sorry if its about my english but FGS

Are you ignoring me?!

[A Song of Ice and Fire]

and ITS redirector cuase RAM flipped a redirector already and this explains his death ...!!!

I mean stop searching moon

No bussdriver clue in this setup atm ... RAM was a redirector and he redirected Bacde a claimed watcher (undead or wulden) to watch him instead of luna to kill luna

I don't receive my target names in my check .
If your telling the truth about the flavor / name and stuff about your results its unique to you.

[A Song of Ice and Fire]

@Almost

This is unrelated to game but me decision is made for a while now. There is 0 chance for me changing my mind. I already announced it in other finished games of mine as well for whevere is going to start shitting me with this ...

this is just not about this game. Its a decision based on what i can see about myself and other stuff I hope I didn't bother you or anyone else in my games and It was quiet fun (the 1 year I played mafia with you guys)

[RachMarie]

Relax Ice, it had more to do with the way you said it which did not make sense with what my results were where i do get the name of my target.

I am sorry for misunderstanding and I was at that time not ready to full claim, now I have I can explain my confusion more if that makes sense?

[A Song of Ice and Fire]

I told you about the result

I told it like 20000000 times ...

and this was not related to your later claims. it was about your race check and stuff you claimed about it at that time. no it makes no sense >.>

[RachMarie]

well I just posted I get the target name I get flavor about the target. That is why had RAM survived i would have been gunning for him as a lynch the next day. The language on his was very different and much more visceral than on my other results. Basically my character can't stand and is afraid of, and hates anyone of his race.

That may be because instead of a VT type of checker Im a PR checker that can check all three things, race, location, and nation.

Also when I have been a watcher I have always known who my target is and I would get results like no one visited Player NAME, or that Player B NAME visited Player A NAME.

So you saying he did not know the target made no sense to me. I will grant in games where I have been a watcher I was not redirected.

[A Song of Ice and Fire]

You told us that day 3

Bacde confirmed he didn't got elaboration from mod who was the target at the end

I told you its not for the rest of us as well

I can't beleive you missed that whole conversation >.> What are you trying to do?

[Almost50]

So, Rach.. are you strong-willed all over or is it just your check? I mean, could your roleblock be redirected or not?

[RachMarie]

My role block is strong though I am not sure it would stand up to a strong man one.

Plus I think if I had checked on dimitri I might have died, but not positive on that its just so much of the flavor was about me trying to hunt him down and finish him off and failing miserably

so not sure how much is flavor and how much is game mechanic on that one.

[RachMarie]

I am not blocked I block my target just to be clear.

[Almost50]

My role block is strong though I am not sure it would stand up to a strong man one.

Plus I think if I had checked on dimitri I might have died, but not positive on that its just so much of the flavor was about me trying to hunt him down and finish him off and failing miserably

so not sure how much is flavor and how much is game mechanic on that one.

Okie dokie...

No, strongman still beats you. Strongman bypasses all protection. Stong will = your action resolves first. So, you cannot be redirected or blocked, but you're no good at stopping a strongman still.

The reason I asked is bc you will need to RB someone tonight, and I wanted to make sure that your RB cannot be messed with.

[RachMarie]

both strongmen are dead so should be just fine

[mastin2]

Flavor wise are undeads and Vampires sterile?

Explicitly not, no. Undead can have children. Vampires can have children. Lycans also can have children.

[mastin2]

trivia

Manticores are, well...manticores. (Except their head is also like a lion's.) They shoot spikes from their tails, a trait useful in siege warfare for mass-bombardment of enemy troops be it above or below the ramparts. They are native to the erimos range and great lake regions.

Seventy-fifth Votecount

:

(Fourth Votecount D5)

rb - 3 (Expedience, No Retreat, DrippingGoofball)

Tim - 2 (Almost50, A Song of Ice and Fire)

A Song of Ice and Fire - 1 (rb)

Not Voting - 6 (davesaz, Wake88, TheWayItEnds, Tim, RachMarie, Bacde)

With

12

alive, it takes

7

to lynch.

Day 5's deadline is Thursday, September 8th, @ 9:00 PM PST: (expired on 2016-09-08 21:00:00).
At Deadline,

rb

would be lynched.

Known Player V/LAs:

• No Retreat
  (August 15th - August 19th, 2016)

[Toogeloo]

Good Luck Town!

[Tim]

My vote stays on Tim for the time being until someone -somehow- manages to give a better argument.

We're lynching Rb today based on the argument that he's probably recruited wulden via TWIE's N1 action claim plus his wulden race claim previous to that.

Aside from the obvious correct play, your reasons for voting me are incomprehensible, to put it mildly.

How do I know ASoIAF wasn't the third vig? I nation checked them

Why did I choose to hide my nation and wincon specifically? Because the identity of the third vig would have been made pretty clear, and I was at the time a candidate for that.

I was speaking pretty directly about this to you,

in particular

, here

Well, she was a ROLE COP (that's even stronger than a Race Cop in this game, as she got all of a player's abilities).

But anyway, I'm not going to argue much. I just need rb to give me what I had requested of him and will probably get to the bottom of this.

You could also speed it up if you opt to willingly volunteer to give out some of your own info.

I get the feeling I know what you may be desperate to say. (but let's not get there, today anyway)

@Almost. You sure we can't leave this in the dark? It's true I can't be culted, but it may or may not be because I'm a champion. I do not think the last champion needs to come to light just yet. If for some reason it really really helps you, sure, I can elaborate, but I don't see the point yet

The second you claimed to wholeheartedly believe ASoIAF's PGO(ish) claim, I was pretty sure my hunch was correct. And shock and awe, you've claimed it.

You also take Mathblade's fake claim and attempt to compare apples and oranges. Firstly, I'm pretty sure that Mastin's suggestions align with the specific flavor for Aires, not "what's safe to claim as a wulden" because secondly, there's no reason to lie about nation and location, they're easily checkable, and they really don't mean much. It also doesn't take a genius to figure out what sort of town flips we've had and what could be believable for race/location/nation/wincon (for example, why couldn't I just as easily "chosen" Titus's faction? Pretty sure that'd also make some sense)

All this tells me is that I ought to not have even attempted to put any kind of faith in you. I'll be remembering this for future games.

----

It's pretty rich that ASoIAF is placing me as cult here, but here's a more pertinent question. From your implication is it true that if I were to use a night action (not a check) on you tonight I wouldn't die (and presumably become a PGO)?

[A Song of Ice and Fire]

I'm not going to tell you anything about that ability

If I'm getting vigged then my passive will be on town. so have fun breaking it you scums!

Yes you may be cult cuase nos flip showed he is the only person in Other faction with fake claims and the way you claimed is like you made it up by yourself. talk about your flavor a bit more. can u?

[A Song of Ice and Fire]

and if you can't explain RAM death my PGO(ish) claim is semi proven.

[A Song of Ice and Fire]

that post is basically hey almost I'm disapointed at you. you bleieved ASOIAF and are voting me over rb... you suck brother ...

total absoloute trash game wise ; 100% appeasing and reapiting the way I defended and claimed in a lower level. I claimed something really really weird in your povs and explained it falvorwise/ role wise. he is just trying to say hey! I claimed individual human but I could claim X and Y if I was fake claiming.

Like yeah sure.

[Expedience]

VOTE: rb

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