Gistou (Over!)

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Was there even a point to that post?

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Heartless is very likely to be human and not scum.

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I took Wake's stuff to be a Keymaster/Gatekeeper thing.

Why do you think town would do that?

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Rach talk to me about Wake

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right, sry TTH

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Rach talk to me about Wake

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Rach, why did I have to ask you 3 or 4 times before you said anything and what made you decide to out yourselves as masons?

Claiming masons as scum is possible.

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I figured that but what was the conversation like, where you like "oh Wake I can't take it anymore, lets claims masons and get Nero off our backs!" or what?

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vote:Expedience

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this make doubt you

its kinda came from nothing.

yep. Its soooo bizarre I'd have new info after the night phase.

I don't want to lynch DGB today either. You aren't exactly a newb, do you really think that anyone that defends a player is scum with that person?

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ok so are we lynching then

not today.

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so to clear are you claiming you did a night check on heartless and your saying their human

why claim

why not completly? other night results?

I may or may not have done a night check. Does it matter?

Why should I full claim?


@Rach you don't think ASOFAI's rolefishing is scummy? Who is scum Rach?

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and why the fuck do you think I'd speculate or guess if they were human? Nothing you are saying makes any sense.

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I agree that I prob shouldn't of said anything but I saw a50 suspecting Heartless and I wanted to tell him he was prob wrong.

Rach, remind me why you think bacde is undead? Thats like the only reason I'm not voting him.

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I asked why he claimed something like that in first place cause it seems he is

lieing

there's no reason to think that unless you have conflicting info.

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Heartless is

very likely

to be human and not scum.

So no it wasn't a race check. But I'm not full claiming and anymore attempts from Ice to rolefish me will be met with rope.

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yeah ok, lets not talk about this anymore since I have no intention of full claiming yet and everything will be obvious once I do. Now sheep me on Exp or talk to me about RB.

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RB is RB

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1. Heartless (Antihero + TellTaleHeart)<--not lynching
3. Bacde<---kinda don't want to lynch b/c he's undead but his play stinks
7. Almost50<---still like his claim no matter how shit his reads are
8. Nosferatu<--maybe
10. Wayward Thinker (LicketyQuickety + Suzune)<---I'm still fuzzy on why everyone wanted this lynched so I don't really want to do this.
12. davesaz<---maybe depending on a meta dive
14. Wake88<---mason claim so not today
15. Tim (Iecerint + ActionDan)<---maybe
16. No Retreat (Nero Cain + Yume)<---fuck no
17. A Song of Ice and Fire (Frozen Angel + Firebringer)<---naw
20. rb<--maybe
23. Expedience<---maybe
25. TheWayItEnds<---not really
26. DrippingGoofball<---not really
27. Toogeloo<---still like his claim
28. RachMarie<---not today

So for me it makes RB, Exp, Tim and Nos as kinda the pile I'd lynch from.

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why is exp scum? for scum reading you?

He could be, at the very least he's wrong as fuck.

but also this has me a little worried that he's singular faux hunting.

I don't have any other suspects atm

and you can read my todays POE list above.

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What do you think?

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They won't but you know better than to assume that reads will stay static and things don't change. Why are you playing like you've never played mafia before?

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I never said I expect them to be static I want to see how you shaped them.

ok but I'm not asking you about your read on me. I'm asking you about how you feel about my list and where you think I'm wrong at.

"singular faux hunting"? ?

Its when you have a single suspect that you want to lynch. Like we are over 6k posts in and we have 12 flips and I'm your only suspect? I don't think that comes from town like ever. Also I feel like your "nero was unwilling to bus!" is kinda nearsighted sense it ignores the obvious wuldens bussing her and the isolationist and/or Nosferatu voting her. Who else are you scumreading besides me?

Can you claim flavor?

I see no reason to.

@Nero the reads you last night gave me are so similar to mine although I really like to hear your rb case. cuase I had a town read on him

and I don't understand townreads on dgb. she did a readlist on day 1 and flaked. she did the same as scum in saga I guess (flaking)

you had to ISO me to determine we have similar reads?!?

DGB also hasn't flaked

Wayward's Day 1 wagon was derailed onto Kuroi by multiple scum that have flipped.

I brought this up around late day 1 or day 2 but Exp was actually the leading wagon before WT. If you are going to argue that Kuroi was a counter to WT was is WT not a counter to Exp?

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This was DGB's last post here. I mean if you are going to argue that she flaked fine but its pretty obvious she hasn't so.....

I was blocked on Night 1, so a role blocker is more than likely in the game (probably on the Wulden side since Isolationists had a redirector).

I don't think rb is the right place to lynch today, I liked his actions for the most part yesterday. I wouldn't say he's a strong town read, but I would say there are so many better options than him to pick from.

I was also blocked Night 1.

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also I'm not even trying to lynch you so this whole "I'm being misreppped! HALP!" seems extremely silly to me. Now go find scum and stop fussing about me making you angry or w/e.

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flaked is when they replace out of the game. So I was just correcting you that she hadn't. If you wanna push a "DGB is scum 'cause she's a non presence." then ok but she hasn't flaked.

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flaked is when they replace out of the game

and/or are force replaced due to activity.

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what do you think about them and who is the best option in hitting scum in your opinion?

Well there's "I only have 1 scum read in 600+ posts Exp and RB and I could kinda see Bacde flipping scum since I don't think his play is town like at all.

why are you town reading her?

I don't think I ever said I was town reading here, I just don't have a big scumread on her. Besides being a non presence what has so done thats scummy?

Yeah but I'm conftown so I can totally coast

Eh? Where is this confirmation you speak of?

this is a bit dumb.

How does.my vote on no retreat not indicate to you that I think no retreat is scum?

I was hoping you'd try to convince me but hey

doesn't look like you needed any.

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i literally dont even know why people are voting nero.

haven't you heard, I'm Exp's sole scumread after 6k+ post. Almost is voting me for whatever the fuck goes on in his mind, DGB for ????? I think Bacde still has a p good chance to flip scum despite being confirmed undead. We know that isolationist had a vamp in their group so I don't think its impossible that an undead in in the wulden/isolationist group. Oh and ASOFAI was basically a rage vote.

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We know there are atleast 2 scum teams. 3 if we count this cult we are supposed to have. Bacade can sit there and claim he was blocked or whatever, like he did today, no one is forcing him to give results as scum.

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i literally dont even know why people are voting nero.

haven't you heard, I'm Exp's sole scumread after 6k+ post. Almost is voting me for whatever the fuck goes on in his mind, DGB for ????? I think Bacde still has a p good chance to flip scum despite being confirmed undead. We know that isolationist had a vamp in their group so I don't think its impossible that an undead in in the wulden/isolationist group. Oh and ASOFAI was basically a rage vote.

So a vampire would be a vampire

Why do people keep bringing up this past vampire?

I'm fucking undead, not a vampire

You are sitting there and arguing that you can't be scum b/c you are undead. NOT all Vamps were town therefore its plenty possible that not all undead are town. Its not hard logic so I think your "herr drrr, I don't understand" is you continuing to write yourself off as too stupid to be scum.

not sure about his other head because it has been primarily Nero so far

its been all Nero. Yume has flaked.

I say let's humor Bacde and lynch No Retreat

no

No Retreat, if you claim and I believe you, I will also claim. Otherwise you can see that a wagon will build on you until deadline, and then you'll have to claim at the last minute and you might be more likely to get lynched.

nope, I have 0% reason to claim.

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yes, lets claim and give scum more information. Stop shit posting.

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EXP
RB
Bacade

these are your three scum lynches for the day.

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I like how you are just saying things to try and make it look like you are busy.

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vote:RB

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RB pls talk to me about how or how not WT is a counterwagon to Exp.

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?_?

this feels like rvs

Nosferatu is person most likely to be town -> cult

why do you think that?

why do you think that?

1000% gut.

No Retreat, if you claim and I believe you, I will also claim. Otherwise you can see that a wagon will build on you until deadline, and then you'll have to claim at the last minute and you might be more likely to get lynched.

yes, lets claim and give scum more information. Stop shit posting.

yes, lets claim and give scum more information. Stop shit posting.

read my sig

buh-bye

yes, lets claim and give scum more information. Stop shit posting.

but if i'm scum how does it give scum more information? ',:^)

yes, lets claim and give scum more information. Stop shit posting.

but if i'm scum how does it give scum more information? ',:^)

I'm so confused by this post

Very interesting sequence.

A gut read with this many posts? (yes, I omitted a statistics post, don't remember who posted that one TBH, and can't take the time to check them right now as it's almost 1am) But in the same post asking NR to claim -- what? How is that relevant to the discussion on Nos? I don't like the non-sequitur feeling about this sequence of posts. Can't pin down who/what bothers me, again it's 1am and not able to concentrate. Just something is off. If anything this is a reminder to myself to look at it.

Exp wants me to claim. I don't want to claim and see no pro-town reason to claim. It has nothing to do with Nos.

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RB pls talk to me about how or how not WT is a counterwagon to Exp.

What do you mean?

Both WT and Expedience are scumreads for me, they should both die as far as I'm concerned.

Well, I remember you saying over and over how Kuroi was a counterwagon to WT. Ok, maybe he was but Exp was actully the first wagon from the first day so wouldn't WT be an Exp counter as well? I remember asking about it but I don't think you ever responded to me so thats why my vote is currently on you.

This is also the first I remember of you calling Exp scum.

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I'm not surprised this WT be is led by my top scum read, sure feels like a counter wagon

how come you were voting me if RB is your top scumread?

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Rach whats

YOUR

case on WT?

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Why weren't you sheeping me on Exp earlier? Are we going with the "WT is a bigger scumread!"?

What do you think of Bacde calling you his biggest scumread but voting me?

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Why WT?

The best alternative of the leading lynches, imo.

Why do you think Exp is town?

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I don't think you did, so you scum read him? But you think WT is a better lynch?

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I don't think you did, so you scum read him? But you think WT is a better lynch?

Can you pls read my ISO then? Srsly.

885
900
916
929
934
1012
1045
1727
1766
1792
1863

Yeah, I never pushed on Expedience at all!

My 6907 was directed at Toog not you.

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oh sure we can. I don't think its impossible that you spend d1 bussing your buddy. I mean just 'cause Dram flipped town doesn't mean he was right about Exp. Do you often take the advice of flipped players?

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bacde some of us have played with Nero before

Honestly? Bacde is prob just scum. Like him replacing in and derp voting RAM is prob scum trying to fake derp tell. RB is his top scumread but he's voting me? And his repetition that he can't be scum 'cause he's undead is pretty sad. There's like a complete lack of anything against me. I mean Exp is arguing that I didn't vote LLD and so I must be scum but other than that the push on me has been "oh he's not claiming, he must be scum!"

I agree with your EXP is active lurking, don't really agree with Suzune b/c she's just kinda randomly useless. Haven't looked at the vote thing yet though.

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placement in the vca I did

To make this easier Im going to use red for maf 1 (wulden) , purple for maf 2 (isolationist), gold for town allies, and green for town.


Twenty-seventh (and Final) Votecount D1:

KuroiXHF

- 15 (DrippingGoofball,

Titus

, A Song of Ice and Fire, No Retreat, Expedience,

RAM

,

Salt Squad,

Cephrir

, Heartless, Toogeloo, davesaz, Tim,

Luna Fox

,

BBMolla

,

dramonic)

Wayward Thinker - 3 (rb, Nosferatu, Klingoncelt)
Heartless - 2 (Almost50,

copper223

)
A Song of Ice and Fire - 1 (

KuroiXHF

)
Klingoncelt - 1 (Wayward Thinker)

Luna Fox

- 1 (

Lady Lambdadelta

)

Titus

- 1 (

Mathblade

)

Salt Squad

- 1 (

Stormblade

)

Not Voting - 3 (RachMarie, Wake88, TheWayItEnds)

With 28 alive, it took 15 to lynch.

Kuroi was individual vamp allied with town and doc

Thirty-fifth Votecount: (Eighth, and Final, Votecount D2)

Salt Squad

- 13 (davesaz, Cephrir, Bacde, Almost50,

Luna Fox

, Expedience,

copper223

, Toogeloo,

Mathblade

, A Song of Ice and Fire, No Retreat,

Stormblade

, DrippingGoofball)
Bacde - 3 (

Salt Squad,

Wayward Thinker, Tim)

Lady Lambdadelta

- 1 (

RAM

)
Almost50 - 1 (

Lady Lambdadelta

)

Cephrir

- 1 (Nosferatu)

Not Voting - 5 (Heartless, TheWayItEnds, RachMarie, rb, Wake88)

With 24 alive, it took 13 to lynch.

Salt Isolationist and cop caught

Forty-first Votecount: (Sixth Votecount D3)

Lady Lambdadelta

- 10 (Toogeloo, RachMarie, DrippingGoofball, Heartless, Wake88, Almost50,

Mathblade

, Expedience, Nosferatu, A Song of Ice and Fire)
Bacde - 2 (No Retreat, Tim)
No Retreat - 1 (Bacde)

Not Voting - 5 (Wayward Thinker, davesaz,

Lady Lambdadelta

, TheWayItEnds, rb)

LLD Wulden faction

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that?

I...don't really get it. Are you saying they're scum b/c they weren't on either scum lynch?

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I'm not surprised this WT be is led by my top scum read, sure feels like a counter wagon

I assumed that "WT be" was WT bandwagon or something. Which is NOT lead by me, its lead by RB. So what was this?

yes, lets claim and give scum more information. Stop shit posting.

shitposting is explicitly suboptimal town play and this interpretation means that he is saying that my claim would be bad for town, which is inconsistent with scumreading me.

Who posted before me, who made 6829? DGB you say?!? Yep I sure wasn't replying to her but F for effort to try to make it look like I was trying to claim you were shitposting.

Everyone vote No Retreat to force him to claim, he's way too guarded about that

Scum, like you, have fakeclaims. Town, like me, don't need fakeclaims. There's zero reason why I should clain and generally speaking, town should n't ever claim unless there is a good reason to do so. Both you and Bcade know this so I can only assume that so this "claim now are you are scum." are scum fishing for info.

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Obviously if Exp doesn't full claim in his next post he's scum. See I can use that same "logic" too.

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yeah....still not claiming. There's no reason too. Exps "almost vanilla with only a location check" is all kinds of bullshit. Also notice how Exp goes from "Nero is Wulden not bussing LLD" and when that didn't stick he changes it to "He's the cult leader b/c he won't claim"

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Yeah I meant bw but my phone corrected to be

thats cool and all but you still called the leader of the WT wagon your biggest scumread so...I'm lost.

uhh ok taking exp out of my scumspect pool

yeah the individual is a thing and they are allied with town. from what I have seen in the flips.

this is dumb

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This is annoying. Like how the fuck can anyone not read Exp wanting me to full claim for no f'n reason as scum fishing for info.

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accept that she flaked and lynch scum Exp, RB and Bcade.

yes

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Why are you interested in me Dave?

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vote:Exp

lets lynch scum today guys.

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yes

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and your reason for wanting to out me?

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Exp is fucking scum. That was just blatant rolefishing. Like if we don't do the smart thing and lynch it I'm just killing him.

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yeah, there was no point. This this scumbag.

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<.<

what the actual fuck is happening in this game

that whole suspecting me b/c Yume flaked is dumb but you can reedeem yourself by voting scum Exp.

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Why did you not think I was human?

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you should find your results and out them b/c I will prob vig you if we don't lynch you.

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^

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Sorry for the inactivity. Been sick. I'll post something later today after I get a little rest.

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It was Nero who was pushing the whole SK thing and I was the one who kept telling Nero he was wrong in a subtle way finally we both agreed in our PT f*** it and outed ourselves.

TBF RB was also and I think some others said they were maybe wary of Wake. Whether that was 'cause of his "destroyer of worlds" claim thing or not IDK.

ok I feel better about exped

Why?

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ok? Alexis being a real role=//=town.

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3. Bacde
12. davesaz
20. rb
23. Expedience
26. DrippingGoofball

I think that I'd be willing to lynch any of these slots today. DGB just seems to be hoping from wagon to wagon without really giving any sort of content so I could see that coming from scum.

Bcade being hysterically abrasive is not something I can easily see coming from town. He also hasn't really explained why he said the WT wagon was being lead by his biggest scumread but I was nowhere near the WT wagon.

I still think Exp was rolefishing. His original reasoning for scumreading me was that I was wasn't voting LLD, which is sorta dumb 'cause it avoids a ton of other players but...

Then he switches to the "OMG NERO'S NOT ROLECLAIMG!" I just feel like if he were town he'd stick with the first thing. I also think this "don't cult me!" sounds fake. Here where he tries to take an obvious reply to DGB and try to make it look like I was talking to him is also hard to see from town.

@Exp

Why do you think RB can't be the cult leader?

also

Everyone No Retreat has come out pushing is town, including Wake, Bacde, me, rb (who can only be culted town and can't be cult leader most likely)

I'm basically conftown we can win easily if you trial someone like Tim, rb, WT or davesaz

What happened between these two posts where I pushing town RB and then he's a good vig shot?

My issue with RB is mostly his odd stance on Exp. He spends a large chunk of d1 talking about how Exp is scummy and then when Dram flips town he's like "ok maybe Dram was right."

And Dave mostly since I don't like most of the things he's been saying.

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I guess my nightly tinfoil is that RB, Exp, Rach, Bacde are cult. RB and Exp keep each other as scum reads but it never seems like one is up for lynching the other. Rach was WAY fast to town read Exp for his clam when I saw no reason to. Bacde gets Rach to vouch for him and then accidentally slips that RB is scum by saying the WT lynch is lead by his top scumread.

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I'm likely dying soon (THANKS EXP!) so I figure I'll just be "leashed" and i'll use my vig shot as a double lynch but its still mine so I'll have my own pool but you guys get to help decide. So depending on the lynch I still want to shoot within

3. Bacde
12. davesaz
20. rb
23. Expedience
26. DrippingGoofball

If anyone has any major concers with me killing anyone on this list speak up.

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oh also I might need to go on v/la from Thursday to Monday

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On d1 I could see the way Tim pushed Molla as being scummy and liking Nos. I know these reads aren't really updated so I'll need to ISO them at some point but why not give me a case on why I should be suspicious of those slots? They are all lurksacks btw so thats NAI.

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@Toog What do you think of what I posted?

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Any of the top 3 is a good vig shot IMHO.

So not Exp and DGB?

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@Nero I'd happily lynch Expedience but I only have one vote. If I was Vig I would have shot both Exp + WT days ago.

Exactly how hard is it for you to type vote:Exp

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not really seeing Rachs case for Exp being town b/c Alexis is a role confirmed to be in the game.

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won't be v/la over the weekend, new V/LA starts on Monday.

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I dunno how I feel abt watching no retreat

if you are town you better be on me.

She may have missed the claim its easy to do with so much going on in this thread

or shes scum not paying attention.

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I don't really like the WT wagon, it feels too easy. My guts says we should mass claim soon but I'm not really sure how soon.

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Rach what is your flavor for why you and Wake are masons?

Can we atleast not lynch WT until Exp answers my questions?

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He must really be off the computer on his VLA

lets just all pretend that we don't see him posting it on the site. :/

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But I genuinely thought you were replying to me, your post was pretty ambiguous and I don't know whyyou or how there is any scum motivation in that anyway.

I don't really buy that. I mean I already replied to your 6822 here so I'm not really sure why you'd think that I'd reply again instead of the post right above me. Also just look at your WORDS!

shitposting is explicitly suboptimal town play and this interpretation means that he is saying that my claim would be bad for town, which is inconsistent with scumreading me.

This is 100% you trying to paint me as scummy and claiming that my scumread on you was not honest. I'm sure you'll claim that you were doing this just to get me to claim but its not like I'm going to buy that weak shit.

You should not kill: Bacde, me, and DGB

I am not killing Bacde or Dave. You, DGB, and RB all seem like fine vig shots. Might even be willing to flip a "mason".

Exp, can you make a post about how you currently see the gamestate.

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dont do it bro, also Tim is probably who I would shoot if I were you.

gonna shoot you and then get your cult recruit RB lynched.

???

its a bit of an open ended question and maybe I'm not phrasing it right but you are talking about POE and how the game is almost solved from your POV. I just want you to talk about it to try and see things from your POV.

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@Almost

. Lets talk about the second lynch (my vig) how much do you trust the masons? Do you think Exp is town and if so why? Talk to me about Nos and DGB.

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I think if I die at any point in this game and Bacde is not watching me/don't get scum lynched after he says who visited me. Lynch him.

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I'd hammer WT.

You do and I'm vigging you.

Rach why are you not flavor claiming?

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Rach quit stalling and claim your story for why you and Wake are masons.

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take dgb off there

Why?

How much do you trust the "masons"? Pls help me lynch the cult leader.

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ok, but I don't want to do Tim.

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Wakes PM has nothing to do with anything. Your pm should sum up the story fine. Why do you think Exp couldn't be the CL?

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also Wake not responding to you has nothing to do with anything either...

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Yes Rach, Wake made that up as a reaction test. We are long past that.

Exp claimed Alexis and you and I disagree that makes him confirmed town. We are past that as well.

I still don't understand why you are Wake are masons. Are you saying that Alexis rounded you guys up too?

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Are you guys undead? the same faction as Exp?

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Are you guys undead? the same faction as Exp?

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no prob

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Why couldn't they be northern tribes?

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this is a known bastard game Wake...

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I mean I kind oh hate that everything that Rach claimed was already public knowledge.

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nice fish nero

THANK YOU!

now I'd like to know about how you see the gamestate.

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what you all knew my name and that alexis was my gf?

no, both Bacde and DGB had claimed to be blocked, both a50 and Toog had claimed northern tribes or maybe Wake had investigated a50, not sure.

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can you remind me of your checks Wake

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oh ok, i misread them as yours

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Town: Wake, RachMarie, No Retreat, Heartless, Bacde, Almost50, DGB, TWIE, Toogeloo
Not town: WT, Nosferatu, aSoIaF (can't really townread them that hard), rb, Nosferatu, Tim, davesaz

why for each

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div something lol

Divitias isn't a nation.

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Expedience is probably town based on his play. If he's scum he's pushing his luck too hard.

meh. I mean he's sitting there and claiming that he needs folks to claim to solve the game but on the flipside those claims give him/scum more information so I'm not exactly trusting that he isn't scum that wants claims for information. I mean maybe its all OMGUS but I don't see pro-town play.

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What in the world is that about?

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Well I don't really get it then. Are you saying that you could see Exp scum trying to mislynch me?

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nation check on RB was other

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no but there was talk of targeting RB and I've already done so.

Do you think we should mass claims checks?

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no but there was talk of targeting RB and I've already done so.

Do you think we should mass claims checks?

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oh I remember what I wanted to talk about.

This is a known cult game. Yes. What if it is a

NON RECRUITING

cult and the only recruiting recruiting mechanic are those of the non human species. Of course if the cult contains non humans then they could recruit but it seems like all the factions can.

My initial setup spec was that we started with 12 scum. Maybe 4/4/4.

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nero did you see what I said about you that I posted from the PT with Wake

yes, should I care?

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lol only cause you know it is true nero you are like a dog with a bone

another sign folks that nero is town nero

yes, we already know that I'm town. Do something useful. Like explain something for me. Weren't you town reading Bacde earlier but you blocked him so....you ONLY town read him b/c of an undead result right?

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nothing except cults don't have a kill unless its a cultafia

@Rach ok

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I'm about to leave so hammer WT before I go?

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ok tell me what to do

you are watching me and checking heartless or EXP.

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ok tell me what to do

you are watching me and checking heartless or EXP.

and if I die and you don't lynch scum the next day you should be lynched ASAP. NO PRESSURE!

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^

I personally still don't trust Exp since I

don't

think confirmed character=town so I'd say him.

yea not bacde or me obv.

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yeah check Tim.

Tim narrowly escapes with his fakeclaim intact

says the other guy that's fakeclaiming.

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vote:WT

if he's not dead yet

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Okay, I choose to believe Almost

VOTE: rb

-Y

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NERO? WHERE ART THEE? Remember when you asked me to claim in your first post so that you can tell me how to play it right?

I WAS ASLEEP!!!

Assuming you really are just a PGO you were supposed to sit there and get scum to target you.

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No Retreat's nation is East Kingdom.

yep, I've been confirmed Eastern champion since yesterday A+++ waste of night actions DGB and Wake.

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My initial reaction is that both ASOFAI and RB are scum (both cult?) but I want to reread when I'm less sleepy.

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@Rach how did you know who I killed?

@Bacde who targeted me?

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THANKS! but it was actually Yume that sent in the Nos kill but I guess I get some credit for not changing it and killing RB like I wanted. My shots have been kinda crummy this game but I skipped most of d2-d3 lol.

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ALL GLORY TO YUME!

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What were your actions last night?

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unvote

we have time, I'm not saying we should stall to use all 17 days are anything but I want to post more.

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I was going to ask about that in my catchup but now seems as good time as any but why do you think Toog protected you?

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I don't know who is scum other than rb

This is starting to be a common refrain from you. Like yesterday I was your sole scum read, today RB is your sole scum read. Idk, I just feel like town are far more likely to kinda spiral out and have multiple scumreads. And I think its more likely that scum have LESS scum readsso they are less likely to agitate players. Half the reason that I was scumreading you is b/c I was scumreading RB. RB spent a large chunk of d1 calling you scum and then when Dram flips his reaction is "oh maybe I'm wrong on Exp and Dram was right!" like WTF is that?!? Did you cult him? Are you guys scum buddies?

though Rach will just spout that your Alexis role means you are confirmed town but I think your play has been less than stellar thought I do have a bad habit of looking at bad play as scum play when it might just be bad play.

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oh ALSO

@ASOFAI

I DID TARGET YOU LAST NIGHT. TELL ME WHAT THAT MEANS.

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there's a thing in our (me and A50) role pms that says we will automatically kill one another if we target each other. I asked Mastin pre-game if the other champions are considered threats. Mastin said she couldn't tell me. So I really really hope a50 didn't target me. I feel like I was the obvious choice for doc protection. I mean maybe Toog thought "oh Nero has a 1x BP, he'll be safe."

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I also sorta wanna policy lynch/vig Bcade. I mean there is a line of thought that says he's town b/c instead of taking orders and being a good little townie he did what he wanted and was like "fuck being useful" but then if he was scum and he targeted me he'd have to out scum since I (or even others) where 99% more likely to be targeted.

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Toog isn't a she

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a50 also isn't a she

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I must have missed the doc claim.

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3. Bacde-undead watcher
7. Almost50-north champ
12. davesaz-???
14. Wake88-north something, culted by Rach
15. Tim (Iecerint + ActionDan)-Individual Human Oracle
16. No Retreat (Nero Cain + Yume)-lord Cain champion of the east and mankind's Savior
17. A Song of Ice and Fire (Frozen Angel + Firebringer)-hybrid champ, miller
20. rb-Individual Human miller?
23. Expedience-individual undead
25. TheWayItEnds-???
26. DrippingGoofball-????
28. RachMarie-individual nos freechechker and roleblocker

^is right I think.

sometimes I think that Individual means Individual as in one. Like all the the town is collectively made up of Individuals. If thats correct then both RB and TIM are fake claiming scum and one of Exp/Bacde are scum. I also don't really believe ASOFAI so

3. Bacde-undead watcher
15. Tim (Iecerint + ActionDan)-Individual Human Oracle
17. A Song of Ice and Fire (Frozen Angel + Firebringer)-hybrid champ, miller
20. rb-Individual Human miller?
23. Expedience-individual undead
^
4 scum here?



12. davesaz-???
25. TheWayItEnds-???
26. DrippingGoofball-????

^
needs to roleclaim ASAP

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sometimes I think that Individual means Individual as in one. Like all the the town is collectively made up of Individuals.

scratch that

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i know but what faction are you in etc?

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So I've been a little inactive here for a few reasons. 1 I've just been lazy and #2, the longer the day goes on the more that scum have to talk.

Is there a post with a list of claims?

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^^^^THIS!! Very much this. This is why ASoIaF is the least worry of mine.

I don't get it...

Neither twie, dgb, nor davesaz need to claim anything today really, when we're Lynching rb.

If I have bullets they do.

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@Almost

I still don't exactly trust Bcade 'cause he came in an voted for dead scum and I think that was scum trying to fake a derp tell. Him not targeting me last night was also odd but I'm willing to let it right.

How do you feel about DGB? I think she's lurking and useless so I kinda wanna vig that. I held off b/c Heartless wanted me to but I don't get why they thought she was towny.

I still don't trust Exp, as he could have been easily culted and a him/RB team makes some sense. I kinda feel like the reason he wanted me outted so badly is 'cause he tried to cult me and it didn't work. What do you think of him?

You know we could just randomly shoot anyone that's not us and the masons and prob win.


12. davesaz
15. Tim (Iecerint + ActionDan)
17. A Song of Ice and Fire (Frozen Angel + Firebringer)
------------------------------------------------------------------
23. Expedience
25. TheWayItEnds
26. DrippingGoofball

you take the top half and I'll take the bottom?

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How do you feel about DGB? I think she's lurking and useless so I kinda wanna vig that.

I'm conftown you dimwith

Says the player that voted conftown me and sheeped Exps dumb as fuck argument that only scum would not want to claim. I'll just vig you and we'll be even ok?

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ok, you ready to end the day?

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[signguy]STOP! HAMMERTIME![/signguy]

VOTE: rb

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ebwop

hammer

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So POE says scum is in ASOFAI and Tim.

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also Exp was a scub and he ticked me off so I killed that bitch.

vote:TIM

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Nero you should have believed me about my gf Exped I told you that there was no way Alexis would be a scum player flavor

there was a good chance he was culted but I guess not even cult wanted him. lol Almost agreed with me that he's scummy so...

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its a scrub but typoed

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I want to know the thing which is confirming DGB is a mod information 100% confirmed TOWN or its just a neighbour kind of ability like a fruit vendor or some shit.

I want to know why is this info stayed hidden from the rest of this town till this point.

lol. no. Like we are lynching Tim and you even SAID you were ok with getting killed so why are you freaking out here.

I also don't believe your claim.

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town can talk to scum anyway they want

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lol @ Frozen getting all pissy and trying to gain sympathy.

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What do you think I should do TWIE?

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if the game isn't over what do you want to do Almost?

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I'd shoot you before Way

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Did you get something from DGB nero?

a cold

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I mean, DGB is town and she strongly believes that TWIE is town and I'm willing to take a leap of faith so I kinda dislike Rachs freaking out over me not wanting to shoot TWIE.


I also didn't say anything about shooting her over ASOFAI so I'm not sure why she's acting like I said that.

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There's a game hosted by us both. It's already started but replacements are accepted.

- Y

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TBF Rach, I just stuck with the plan.

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VOTE: Ratify

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unvote

stop it yume

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VOTE: Ratify

I will keep voting until you explain why not to do so, partner.

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unvote

I think East, West and North have already completed our wincon which is too eliminate the threats and thus we don't need to ratify a new human treaty.

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basicly, I think the humans in this game are pro-human and anti-things that are not human. humans

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also anything that prevents Bacde and Exp from a win is a good thing.

I also inadvertently got TTH killed so I want her to win with me.

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all the "scum" are dead. Now its just deciding wich of the two "town" factions wins.

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So you are saying that you a pro-treaty?

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Mod-has the eastern empire completed their wincon

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oh...i thought you were in the east with me

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north had 3, west had 2 and east has one

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that if the treaty does not go through bad things happen to humans.

rgis sounds like fear mongering

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also we are WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY past this "maybe there is scum left!" and I'm not why you keep bringing it up and trying to reasure us that there aren't any scum left WHEN THATS NOT EVEN THE ARGUMENT

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You win when all threats to the West Empire faction have been eliminated.

You win when all threats to the Northern Tribes faction have been eliminated.

and mine is the same except yellow

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Rach what did you ask Mastin about the treaty?

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my pm has nothing about the treaty. Almost does your role pm talk about the treaty?

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like, its pretty simple to me. I feel like north, east, west and ind humans don't need to ratify the new treaty to win and thats how it reads to me.

Maybe nonhumans will rise up against th humans if the new one isn't ratified.

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but at the same time, whats the point? like unless all the town that's left won't be unanimous unless its all human or all non-human.

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or maybe its just a question of whether the non-humans with with the humans. Like if we ratify the treaty the nonhumans win with us but if the humans don't ratify it the non-humans don't win with us and or/rise up against us.

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but at the same time, whats the point? like unless all the town that's left won't be unanimous unless its all human or all non-human.

Talk to me in the PT, please.

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Also, you're not the only one calling everything, there's two of us here. >.>

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Rach, the way I am reading it is that the humans don't need a NEW treaty only the nonhumans do. I mean, i think A50 and jazz will ratify the treaty so the non-humans win WITH US but I don't think the HUMANS need it to win.

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like I think this "threat" might be the nonhumans rising up against humans. Like I'll see what a50 says and all but I don't think we need to ratify any treaty ti win.

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This further leads me to believe the treaty secures the win for all pro-town factions + the Individual Nosferatu (who were survivours like the Undead, thus had to have one still alive).

how confident are you that we will win if we ratify? So you are thinking like me that all town factions win if we ratify and only humans win if the don't? Like why do you even think this is a thing if its just a moral choice?

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Just testing something

VOTE: Reject

- Y

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the whole idea that this is just a moral choice seems a little odd to me. I don't really like how Rach was fear mongering and pressure pointing us into trying to ratify the treaty. I also don't think its impossible that humans might lose if we ratify. Do you think its possible that ratifying the treaty has any negative implications?

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unvote

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Why do you think you were the only one sent that pm?

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Which option you select will have a direct influence over the game itself.

Yume is convinced that if we don't ratify town loses. I think this thing is dumb b/c like if we (humans) win regardless of choice and its basically choosing whether or not the nonhumans win with us then whats the point? I would not be surprised if this was a choice between which wincon wins over the other.

Obviously I'm in the minority and maybe I'm over thinking this but I wasn't willing to jump into a mod induced WIFOM and choose the "pro-town" sounding option without thinking about it.

I unvoted b/c Yume is trying to "prove" some silly point that I'm pro-reject and it meant she was right if I didn't unvote.

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You are rushing dgb `cause you need to step out?

Why do you think mastin would tell you that a ratified treaty is a town win buy she won't tell me and yume that?

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vote:Ratify

- Y

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What the fucking fuck Yume?!?

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Like why would Mastin PM Rach and tell her a town win=ratified treaty and then not tell us?

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So you don't trust a50?

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THE FUCK DOES HE HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING?!?

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He trusts Rach and if you don't trust Rach then you don't trust him.

- Y

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I feel like I was completly in the right to question if ratifying the treaty would fuck over me and the humans