Gistou (Over!)

[Frozen Angel]

math its not even close to getting recruited and watched to getiing recruited...

but ok lol

[Frozen Angel]

We rolecopped you, then strongman'd you. That was two actions. We did that for the sake of efficiency with our role abilities. I'm sure if we could, we'd have preferred to kill off a Vig via the same actions.

without strongmen, would you also advocate taking out the doctor/BG/Roleblocker/jailkeeper too?

some protection should exist but yeah you could take out a lot of it.

without strongman this game was like just give the town victory.

your just pissed about your death and your not seeing the whole picture nahdia.

i mean, i think my point is pretty reasonable but OK if you say so dude.

I don't understand your stance , I mean I think your saying exactly waht I say in some manners but I think your just pissed at strongmans in setup more than the fact half of the town were conftown , bullet proof with 3 uncultable vigs and the rest were crazy imba investigative / protective / neighborizers

I agree this setup needed less power based variants but I don't follow you. strongman only matters if there is so many bps and stuff. there were only 2 (or 3?) strongmans in a setup when you couldn't kill 8 players each night. this is not even close to be fair to just argue about removing scum powers. I mean this setup would be balanced without some town roles and keeping the scum as they are right now.

[Frozen Angel]

oh I understand and Mastin (read both dead threads now) is right Nicholas should have been recruited by cult or shot by scum at night.

Reason I did not out myself early on and CC cephir was because I had not yet recruited and I saw too much risk of becoming the usual lynch bait for town paranoia which was highly anti anything not human right then. So I hunkered down and thought What would Nicholas do here? He is a hunter, so I will hunt;

Hunt for the best partner to help me win the game for us and for town
Hunt both scum teams and get them dead any way I can
Hunt for townies that I can clear and kind of be a weak cop
Hunt for people to block to prevent catastrophe. kind of a weak jk

In the end like Nicholas himself, it was not the most elegant, but it got the job done.

And I do still love you Nero but take this in the vein it is meant DAMNIT STOP BEING SO F***ING STUBBORN AND HOLDING GRUDGES dude yes you were ticked off about Exp outing you, but you outed me too dude. The masons claim was for all intents and purposes pretty accurate really. We were working for town, and we were in complete alignment on our win con.

Really glad your other head voted for the treaty and hammered it.

we couldn't win even with you though at that point. you would die before any other vigs so basically endgaming that was impossible even for you.

[MathBlade]

Never said that didn't deserve an achievement either lol.

But yeah surviving having town depants me would have let me fuck with wincons more. OMG that was so fun trying to lie to you guys on how to win.

[Frozen Angel]

I died as BP scum once too though.

Thats bad as well , kindda ...

I agree

[Luna Fox]

Also Nero didn't want my faction to win, I'm sad

[RachMarie]

It was not about you Luna, it was about Exped outing him he was still irked about that.


Nicholas:
Even though Exp was Alexis everything that is good and wonderful about this crazy world, even though she was my gf and the one I loved more than anything. I failed her so many times. But in the end at least I did not fail her this last time, and her dream lives on.

[Luna Fox]

Also if you want to know why i was feeling the way i was, feel free to read the undead thread.

[RachMarie]

HUGS ♥ Luna you were all right in my book, and sorry I misinterpreted some of what you were saying, I did correct it in my mind later, but figured the confusion would keep scum from killing me til I could solve the game lol

[Luna Fox]

From Isolationists thread:

But we got mad town reads tho.

Funny how that turned out.

[Frozen Angel]

Luna you were one of the basic concepts made this game triple fun for me

I was so sad to see your death so soon

I was planning in culting you :/ ?

[Luna Fox]

lol me being culted would've been interesting, i've never been part of a cult. But it was too obv i'd get shot due to my claim.
Considering toog BG'ing me, this would have gone so differently if we had lynched WT D1.
Specially due to the result i got on Beeboy

[Toogeloo]

I think too many people are putting LLD in "lynched because of guilty" pile. Rach was an Individual Nosferatu, so if LLD was even slightly more active, she probably would have easily slipped out of that noose because she would have had the backing of Rach that "race does not equal faction" as it was hammered into us from the rules.

Basically, while race did not mean faction, town was able to throw that caution to the wind and probably got lucky for it. If Rach had been investigated, and we had a Wulden flip first, this could have gone an entirely different way and then using the argument that a player was guilty by race check would seem silly.

[RachMarie]

No actually I did not buy LLD's claim completely I forget but something in it just did not jibe with mine, but I knew if I pushed it would mean revealing myself so I went with blocking her then there were so many deaths that I second guessed my read a few times.

[Frozen Angel]

even LLD had no idea there might be individual wuldens in setup

it was just really not acceptable flavor wise at that point

I was pretty shocked when I saw individual nos claim after the point i was sure there is no isolationist left

setup was just to predictable based on flavor

[Frozen Angel]

at least it seemed like it was to predictable.

[Firebringer]

setup was just to predictable based on flavor

[Frozen Angel]

I'm not saying it was a bad thing

it was just another boost for this OP town - which they didn't use properly . I think this was breakable with a massclaim on day 2/3 forward

[Cephrir]

Mostly upset that I wasted a good scum game on something this ridiculous.

[Frozen Angel]

I litterally died to back up nosferatus rediclous claims on day 3 ! for some reason he though he visited stromblade not ram and all we needed was a tracker / second watcher to screw us. I mean I litterally died that day to make such a briliant fake claim which never got neccessorry!

and my own claim just came out ! Individual human champion was briliant , whoever disagrees need to be hanged in a city center!

for more info about the fake claims I made read our chat

I was literally on fire

[Frozen Angel]

Who can live 5 phases after getting confscum till the point they get POE'ed between so many other conftown under the heave shot hellfire of two vigs who cant get killed or culted

[Frozen Angel]

and My bah post for more information !

[Frozen Angel]

Fake claim wise Nos was a role cop who checked me night 1 and checked stormblade night 2 but got results of stromblade so he knew he was redirceted action wise but not check wise cuase his race check was on stormblade!

[Frozen Angel]

my party were all a bunch of lurkers though

I love them but I was the

#Last_Scum_Standing ... _Alone

[Frozen Angel]

lol me being culted would've been interesting, i've never been part of a cult. But it was too obv i'd get shot due to my claim.
Considering toog BG'ing me, this would have gone so differently if we had lynched WT D1.
Specially due to the result i got on Beeboy

Bacde was litterally the worst person who could survive from your group

I wanted a decent obvtown player for cult