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Hey look stuff is happening
Regarding the rask wagon, I think that the initial reason BlackVoid gave for voting rask is pretty solid. That being said, rask's reaction to the wagon seems towny enough that I'm not enthralled with rask as scum. Either way, there is probably scum somewhere on the rask wagon, so I'm more concerned there for now.
Brief timeline:
56: BlackVoid gives reason, votes rask
57: Hoopla endorses rask vote but does not change her vote
58: BBT vote rask in hopes of starting a wagon
59: Sotty joins wagon. Follows it up with 60 which is substantitive, but does not discuss rask
62: Hoopla officially votes rask
63: TwoFace votes rask without reason other than it existing and the coin flip gimmick
I'm generally townreading hoopla right now for her approach to this wagon as well as her early game play (the dice tag discussion seems needlessly risky for scum). I also do like BlackVoid's reasons for the wagon, even if my intial vote was there. If there is scum on the wagon its probably within {BBT, Sotty, TwoFace}
Of those three I think Sotty is most likely. She had an empty vote, but at the same time added a few weak reads right afterword. Seems like someone who knew their vote was not good, so they decided to put down some content so as to not get blamed for fluff. 86 also shows more self awareness about the quality of her posts.
As for the other two, there's not enough from BBT to make note of pretty much anything, since his only post is the rask vote. I do have a slight scumread on TwoFace though, although it might just be the coin gimmick getting on my nerves. Scumread on Sotty is stronger.
VOTE: Sotty
PEdit-Okay BBT has three posts now. Still not a lot to go on, but he's still probably the most townie of the trio.-
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BlueBloodedToffee Survivor
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I like this as a tell in general -- scum often tend to overcompensate if they feel their vote isn't justified well enough... but Sotty can be a savvy scumbag. I honestly don't know how to read her and what tells apply to her these days. Perhaps a good ol' wagoning is just what she needs.In post 101, Jaack wrote:Of those three I think Sotty is most likely. She had an empty vote, but at the same time added a few weak reads right afterword. Seems like someone who knew their vote was not good, so they decided to put down some content so as to not get blamed for fluff. 86 also shows more self awareness about the quality of her posts.-
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MariaR Alternatively,
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Rask is town everyone get off right now.
VOTE: Good morning
Everything they've said is cringy and seems forced to meI bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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I demand a reflip
I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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Yea i had the same exact thought, i really liked that read on his post. I also think that goodmorning is most likely town from tone, both wagons are and were badIn post 103, Hoopla wrote:
I like this as a tell in general -- scum often tend to overcompensate if they feel their vote isn't justified well enough... but Sotty can be a savvy scumbag. I honestly don't know how to read her and what tells apply to her these days. Perhaps a good ol' wagoning is just what she needs.In post 101, Jaack wrote:Of those three I think Sotty is most likely. She had an empty vote, but at the same time added a few weak reads right afterword. Seems like someone who knew their vote was not good, so they decided to put down some content so as to not get blamed for fluff. 86 also shows more self awareness about the quality of her posts.-
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Jaack Goon
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Using dice tags in rvs is the kind of thing that tends to get people on your case, essentially for the reasons michel gave when he voted hoopla. It's sort of like self voting in rvs in that it's liable to get people talking about you early.In post 109, MariaR wrote:Jack why do you think talking about dice is risky for scum btw I don't get it
I don't think it's a pro-town play, but it rather on the nose for scum.-
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goodmorning AnySurvivorAny
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So BV is Town I guess???
AHHHH OH NO I AM MELTINGIn post 57, Hoopla wrote:^not bad, not bad.
I feel like goodmorning is close to finally cracking and going into full meltdown, but consider me voting for Raskolnikov too.
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buttIn post 58, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Not much has happened so far - we need to get a wagon going.toffeeeee, that's soboorrringggggg
In post 62, Hoopla wrote:I can't believe we're letting goodmorning off the hook...Me neitherI MEAN NOPE, I AM OBVIOUSLY INNOCENT
l o lIn post 69, TwoFace wrote:
can you please link me to where you have outed reads, I have trouble locating them when looking over your iso.In post 66, CloudKicker wrote:Havent outed a single read
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So Raskolnikov may have murdered an old woman with an axe but is still quite possibly Town, plus TwoFace. I think Scum probably gets the subtext more often than Town does here.
I think you may be taking this a tad bit too seriously! (In post 92, Raskolnikov wrote:Will anyone see my problem with this?it is only a game omg)
I like that you start by saying "IF" and then somewhere between there and the end of the post it magically changes to "IS" with no real explanation.In post 101, Jaack wrote:If there is scum on the wagon
And by "I like" I mean "I don't like." Also VCA is dumb ok
thatsthejoke.dejavuIn post 104, MariaR wrote:VOTE: Good morning
Everything they've said is cringy and seems forced to me
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I kind of want to vote Toffee now but I really don't want to forget about Victor. Hmm.EFFORT IS NOT INDICATIVE OF ALIGNMENTLA during normal working and sleeping hours EST
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MariaR Alternatively,
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ehhh I don't really like this reason but so be it.In post 111, Jaack wrote:
Using dice tags in rvs is the kind of thing that tends to get people on your case, essentially for the reasons michel gave when he voted hoopla. It's sort of like self voting in rvs in that it's liable to get people talking about you early.In post 109, MariaR wrote:Jack why do you think talking about dice is risky for scum btw I don't get it
I don't think it's a pro-town play, but it rather on the nose for scum.I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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MariaR Alternatively,
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Like it's really easy to say just the opposite isn't it...but then again you can say that about EVERY statement in the game idk I just disagree I guess.I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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goodmorning AnySurvivorAny
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Jaack's not wrong that it draws attention.
Is there some special reason you're not trying to engage with me here?EFFORT IS NOT INDICATIVE OF ALIGNMENTLA during normal working and sleeping hours EST
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?????In post 115, goodmorning wrote:Jaack's not wrong that it draws attention.
Is there some special reason you're not trying to engage with me here?
What the fk gegterg4rg4rt
No I just have nothing to say to you but here:
How do you feel rn
who do you want to vote
who are you scared of at this table
Happy?I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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goodmorning AnySurvivorAny
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You're voting me but you don't seem interested in genuinely sorting me, is what I'm saying. I was here, it's a great chance to talk to someone you think is scummy in real time, I responded to you in my last post, and you just didn't bother.
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2.In post 104, MariaR wrote:cringy and... forced
3. I AIN'T 'FRAID OF NO GHOSTSIn post 112, goodmorning wrote:I kind of want to vote Toffee now but I really don't want to forget about Victor. Hmm.
No, I'm not happy. The fact that you didn't bother reading the last sentence of 112 before you made the post that I had to ask you why you weren't making makes me especially unhappy.EFFORT IS NOT INDICATIVE OF ALIGNMENTLA during normal working and sleeping hours EST
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MariaR Alternatively,
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Meh you're right I'm skimming I did read the joke part and I didn't really think I was suppose to answer it just felt dead to me so sorry on that one but if your goal was to be forced and cringey can you please stop cause it's srsly fking up my reads I BOTD time.In post 117, goodmorning wrote:You're voting me but you don't seem interested in genuinely sorting me, is what I'm saying. I was here, it's a great chance to talk to someone you think is scummy in real time, I responded to you in my last post, and you just didn't bother.
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2.In post 104, MariaR wrote:cringy and... forced
3. I AIN'T 'FRAID OF NO GHOSTSIn post 112, goodmorning wrote:I kind of want to vote Toffee now but I really don't want to forget about Victor. Hmm.
No, I'm not happy. The fact that you didn't bother reading the last sentence of 112 before you made the post that I had to ask you why you weren't making makes me especially unhappy.
UNVOTE:I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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Of course I want to generate content, that's part of the reason I attempted to start two separate wagons (gm and rask) I won't make excuses for the quality of my posting (yeah, it was an empty vote) but I do think you're being a little harsh considering everything you listed here could also be ascribed to town posting. That said, I like your tone and for page five I've seen worst cases.In post 101, Jaack wrote:Of those three I think Sotty is most likely. She had an empty vote, but at the same time added a few weak reads right afterword. Seems like someone who knew their vote was not good, so they decided to put down some content so as to not get blamed for fluff. 86 also shows more self awareness about the quality of her posts.
I don't want to step on Hoopla's toes because gambits are the name of her game. I find her generally hard to get a read on in the early game so I tend to sort her town and let her out herself as scum as the game draws on. It helps that I value her as an extremely strong town player and would really like to tag team on this game if she is indeed town. Because of this I found Rask's initial case and vote on Hoopla weak, but most of it could be down to a lack of experience with her which could be understandable. However, Rask's vote remains despite Hoopla's reasonable responses to his points.
I like BBT more for scum at this point. He came in with a vote on Rask to start a wagon, there were already two other players with two votes at the time Blackvoid and gm. It seems to be an attempt to sort Rask which comes quick and with no further elaboration. I would have expected more considering the history they both speak to. Feels like he started the wagon then panicked a little when it took off. I also remember BBTScum being very no nonsense cutting to the heart of the matter, were as townBBT being more open.
Unvote, Vote: BBT
Rask - What do you think of BBT now? Is my meta outdated?
I like twoface so far, I mean he hasn't done much but I don't get the feeling he is trying to hide anything from his posts.
Other scum reads, Cloud maybe? I can't decide on him. We'll put I am Innocent as a scum read for now just for lurking. Like what the hell dude?-
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Was it not obviously a joke?EFFORT IS NOT INDICATIVE OF ALIGNMENTLA during normal working and sleeping hours EST
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I'm having mixed feelings cause the first part of Scotty's post felt like BS but I agree with the BBT read started the bw and when rask towntold knew it wasn't gonna get far and got off rather quick
Of course could just be town who saw the towntell and got off but saying it's a scumread makes me seem smart so!I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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goodmorning AnySurvivorAny
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tbqh i just expect better of toffee by this point than 'oh, let's just bamdwagons'
is that just me????EFFORT IS NOT INDICATIVE OF ALIGNMENTLA during normal working and sleeping hours EST
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Not just you.
Tell me more. Mostly how these two thoughts jive with each otherIn post 122, MariaR wrote:I'm having mixed feelings cause the first part of Scotty's post felt like BS but I agree with the BBT read
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