In post 369, VictorDeAngelo wrote: In post 321, MichelSableheart wrote:
Victor placed a random vote, without actually contributing anything useful. I've seen townies do that, but it's disappointing. Victor, why did
post #35 contain nothing but a random vote? Why you didn't give an opinion on Hoopla's playstyle at the time?
Because it was page 2 and nothing in the game seemed worth commenting on.
Traditional, the portion of the game your looking at is the least profitable in my opinion. Scum have the easiest time hiding in the opening pages of the game where everything is random. You've mentioned townreads in the post but no real scumreads yet. Do you still feel comfortable with your goodmorning vote?
The reason I'm asking the question, as should be clear from the context, is that there was something in the game that was worth commenting on: Hoopla's playstyle at the time. It's exactly the lack of comment on this that I want explained. "There was nothing worth commenting on" therefore is not a good explanation.
And yes, I'm still happy with my goodmorning vote (as I would have unvoted otherwise). The analysis of the very early game is still the best thing I have to base my vote on.
In post 372, CloudKicker wrote:
Michel's excuse to sheep Bv read is weak and comes off as fake. I would totally prefer to just not out reads and then come back or form new reads with new information than to take someone elses reads and thats assuming you tr bv and sure about that read
As I mentioned, I'm planning to read those 10 pages again with Bv's opinions in mind, to see if I agree with her assessment. That's not sheeping, that's asking for help in forming opinions.
In post 373, CloudKicker wrote: In post 367, MichelSableheart wrote:
Sotty I
remember as a generally strong player
, though i
t's been some years since I last played with her
. Her play in this game confirms that assessment. She's making solid posts, I can understand the reasoning for the suspicions she voices. Overall, she
hasn't given me any reason to be suspicious of her, but I can easily see scum her fake the level of townieness she's currently displaying
.
I'm currently townreading her, but mainly because each individual player has a better chance of being town then being scum a priori
.
Maria
is a bit of a spamposter
.
Coming from chat mafia into games with 2 week deadlines will do that for you
,
I suppose
. As for a read on her:
I don't have much on her either, sorry.
The g
ame I played with her where she was town, she completely flipped out when she felt she got unfairly pressured. The game I played with her where she was scum, I mainly remember the way she argued that a townslip made by her scumpartner could have been an intentional slip, and managed to do this in such a way that the argument was completely ignored
.
Nothing of the sort has happened in this game yet
, so the
only thing I can tell you is that her tone here seems to be generally consistent with what I saw in her town game.
Just to precise my thought on this post, i think those reads are so weak. Instead of reading the game's content hes answered bv's questions with meta and it doesnt help anyone here to agree with his reads.
Why do you even bother outing reads that are so shit dude if its not to give the impression you actually read them. The whole meta on maria's scumslip defending thing is soo goddam irrelevant since its how maria wouldve played on something that happened THAT game bro, its not meta on her play.
All michel does is :
meta-read that is weak
, then add a
reason to doubt said read
, then out another read then another reason why its not a hard read.
VOTE: michelsableheart in the top 3 worst post of the game so far
*Explains that the only non-weak reads he has are on BlackVoid, Hoopla and rask
*Is explicitly asked for his thoughts on sotty and Maria
*Proceeds to give his thoughts on those two
*Is attacked because the reads he has on them are weak.
Like, seriously?
In post 400, BlueBloodedToffee wrote: In post 77, MichelSableheart wrote:Not a fan of the Rask wagon. At the very least, he seems to be putting some effort into scumhunting, and the wishy-washyness is more likely to come from someone who has no clue as to who is scum, IMO.
Also, looking over goodmorning's ISO, I don't see a lot there that's making me feel good about the slot. Better bandwagon then Rask, IMO.
Vote: goodmorning
Why is wishy-washy more likely to come from town than it is to come from scum who don't want to appear to be pushing opinions too strongly?
Town doesn't know who's scum. Every post they read is new information, meaning they are likely to change opinion frequently. By contrast, scum knows who's scum. Every thought they give on someone's scummyness is fake. Believably faking changing your mind is far more difficult to do than faking consistent reads. So scum is not as likely to frequently change their mind as town is.
Also, why did you choose GM to ISO?
That was the bandwagon Hoopla and Sotty abandoned to vote rask.
There is no 'a' in Michel.