DEFCON Mafia 4.0 - СЛАВА РОССИИ МАТЕРИ

[Nukebringer]

My current ultra conservative nuke pile is {Something_Smart, Nukebringer}

I could add a few more names if I wanted to go balls to the wall but both of these slots need immediate death

what happened to hiplop?

[Spiffeh]

Town: Cephrir, Cheetory, Hiplop, mastina, accountant
Scum: Spiffeh, Nahdia,

Can you explain why you are scumreading me?

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

PAPAZITO IS TOWN

CHEETORY666 IS TOWN

Something Special and Reck leaning town.

Go on about your zito townread.

So I thought Cephrir the first one to do the "guys stop being hyped up about total war lets think logically" and I generally think the first one to do that is town. But actually Zito did that.

[Spiffeh]

When I run out of scumspects he will get his nuke

Patience is a virtue

[Nukebringer]

Town: Cephrir, Cheetory, Hiplop, mastina, accountant
Scum: Spiffeh, Nahdia,

Can you explain why you are scumreading me?

Your reads look fake as hell and you usually have no opinion of me till much later yet you claim to scum read me.
Doesn't add up.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Town: Cephrir, Cheetory, Hiplop, mastina, accountant
Scum: Spiffeh, Nahdia,

Can you explain why you are scumreading me?

Your reads look fake as hell and you usually have no opinion of me till much later yet you claim to scum read me.
Doesn't add up.

[Nukebringer]

who the hell here is good at reading LLD btw? I will sheep their opinion on her.

[Spiffeh]

Your reads look fake as hell and you usually have no opinion of me till much later yet you claim to scum read me.

First of all, would you like to cite some games where this is the case? Because this is a weird thing to keep track of and take issue with

I have an opinion on you now and using "you don't have a read on me until later" is a bullshit way to discredit a method I've used to catch you as scum in the past.

So thank you for confirming my suspicions

[Spiffeh]

Like I have a decent track record when it comes to reading you and the fact that you try to discredit me right out of the gate instead of allowing me to come to terms with the read myself makes me pretty confident you're not town here

[xRECKONERx]

Recks' 321 is needlessly defensive

have you MET me

[xRECKONERx]

because scum don't make that post

Oh dear god … really you think this?

i do

I think I'm more comfortable saying early that post comes from town than scum

[RedCoyote]

RedCoyote absolutely needs Nukes / lynched on the soon side of sooner or later. Town RC would not be feeling out the thread to see if there is any support at all for not voting Total War. 118 is basically asking “Town is it ok if do this thing?”

Cheap shot. There's absolutely no need to reserve yourself when you vote for Total War given that it requires unanimity. There's every reason to do so when you intend to be a detractor. Everyone should've been made to weigh in on the issue when it mattered (e.g. when it's still possible to pass). The argument over it is what counts, not the vote.

Firstly all Town players need to consider the scum potential upside if they are looking at a Troop. Sub is probably the most abusable by scum.

Secondly any Town player who takes Counter-Intelligence must claim it in their first post after the Draft. Failure to do so should be considered the equivalent to waving the hammer and sickle in public while shouting praise to Mother Russia.

First, not a dissenting opinion since I addressed the importance of keeping troops away from scum as a factor to consider, specifically with regard to Counterintelligence. I agree with your second point. To reiterate, ideally, the town would possess all troops.

Sub is 10/10 for Town as it keeps it out of the dirty red paws of the Communists. The strength Town has in this set-up regarding Nukes is the public nature of pressing the button. It holds YOLO Nukers accountable with rope.

If the Communists haven’t figured out how to completely make Eavesdrop useless then they aren’t going to last long anyway. Consider it a 1.5 / 10 at best for Town.

Fail Safe’s ability to Vengekill a Stealth Bomber kill makes it at least a 4/10 for Town.

The sub is important. Agreed.

Eavesdrop is more valuable given that the mod has explicitly banned encryption in night chat. Whether or not the scumteam is able to work around that within his discretion is up in the air.

Well given that the Terrorist has their normal draft result to cover for the “best power” they choose I’m wondering how you expect to this theory to work exactly …

I don't understand.

I do not TownRC is stubborn and doesn't much care about popular opinion.

You said it, not me. For what it's worth, as scum I wouldn't care about Total War, and I certainly wouldn't be willing to fight the tide.

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I'm certainly not pinged by it though. And I would like Magna to respond to the point RC made that Magna was town and against Total War last game and clearly for it this game; that was an interesting catch which warrants explanation.

Indeed. He has yet to explain this.

I'm fine with this post, and I appreciate the Counterintelligence announcement. Though, in general, I disagree with the idea of claiming your draft across the board.

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Only person to ping me so far is Recks. Just the way they outted their reads; it seems very flimsy and my gut read is scum trying to ensure they've got their bases covered wrt early contribution. Definitely not a strong inclination, just where I'm thinking rn.

he's probably the turrist

I'd strongly doubt it. I don't get good or bad pings from Reck yet.

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So you think that in a game from over 5 years ago the only possibility of why I would change my stance is Alignment indicative?

Why must you get defensive? It's a question. The dodging is noted.

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Mastin is probably town I think
-Fire

Does it really matter though?

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Hi.

I got a pm with top secret classified information I was just wondering if it was okay to set up my own private server for further correspondence???

Only if it's in a bathroom.

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no clue what to think about LLD atm. inclined to believe mastin's read but idk. the whole GIMME THIS USELESS THING SO I CAN BE A CODEBREAKER AND REAL TOWN HELPER seems forced and actor like and ugh.

I can ride with this.

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She apparently actually did it last time or something though

Last game, you mean? Explain.

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Thank you, everyone, for not blowing the thread up. Reading over it now.

Y'all think this is about right? I haven't read any of the discussion yet.

Lol.

108 was after reading over the troops, obviously.

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Ok read it.

Nahdia and RedCoyote need death pronto. Have I got my nukes yet.

I don't understand why everyone and their mother is scum reading RC

He is one of my like 3 solid town reads atm

It's a good thing, Spiff, as it means I'm town.

Ask Grey.

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MoI's 452 is good, though the jury is out on Zito as he hasn't made any contributions so far.

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it's really tempting to call ircher town for voting against without reading the thread

Agreed.

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Mastin needs to die regardless.

The first good Zito post.

[RedCoyote]

Vote: Against Total War

[xRECKONERx]

gdi now I have to wait

thanks a lot guys I hope you're happy

how would you describe your sodium levels right now

[GreyICE]

I'd say I'm good at reading LLD but it turns out I'm garbage.

This strikes me as a bunch of townies talking, outside the mystery pages, but there's no stakes so it's hard to know.

Vote:total war

It's all just posturing until people are at risk, so this portion of the game is so low stakes I can't care.

[xRECKONERx]

Vote: Against Total War

[hiplop]

I wanna nuke moi

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Vote: Against Total War

Wtf is this.

[hiplop]

'd say I'm good at reading LLD but it turns out I'm garbage.

Throwback to chi meet

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I wanna nuke moi

This is awful play.

MoI is a player who will never live to lylo. Either he'll make a significant impact as town and increase our chances to win, or he's scum and he'll be dealt with one way or another.

Nothing is gained from premptively nuking that slot, so look somewhere else.

[xRECKONERx]

Vote: Against Total War

Wtf is this.

it's bravery

[Cephrir]

Last game, you mean? Explain.

i don't know what part of this obvious fact needs to be explained

[hiplop]

Solid town: grey, reck, mastina,RC, ceph

[Lady Lambdadelta]

'd say I'm good at reading LLD but it turns out I'm garbage.

Throwback to chi meet

pft

The funniest part was when everyone asked him if I was scum, he said yes, and everyone immediately went "ok so LLD is town"

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Mastin needs to die regardless.

The first good Zito post.

Zito had much better posts earlier on but I can't tell if the one you quoted is sarcastic or not but he had much more townier posts earlier on.