DEFCON Mafia 4.0 - СЛАВА РОССИИ МАТЕРИ

[GuyInFreezer]

But yeah I reeeeeally should be working on my assignments tonight. So I'll stop talking for today.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Okay so what do you think the scum intent for #26 was?

One of those "hey guys I'm town!" schtick.

Nah it's def not reading like that to me. Yes it read super dumb but you're building off case off strawmaning here like he didn't claim he was reaction testing.

I also don't think someone who messes up as scum easily enough to pull the "hey guys I'm town!" schtick won't be trying to justify it by "subtly" implying it was a reaction test. I think he would've outright said it.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Also you're activating the TRAP CARD I set.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

This is like in Yu Gi Oh when Kaiba thought he had Yugi on the ropes, then Yugi summoned Exodia and obliterated him

Literally JUST like that

[GuyInFreezer]

Actually if he outright said that it was a reaction test, I wouldn't be reading it scum as hard as now.

[GuyInFreezer]

Also you're activating the TRAP CARD I set.

I'm actually intentionally pushing it harder than I usually do just because I saw your "TRAP CARD" post.

[Andrius]

[Day 1, DEFCON 4]

[NORAD SYSTEM] ALERT. ALERT. Enemy movement detected.
[NORAD SYSTEM] Checking for false positive...
[NORAD SYSTEM] No errors found.
[NORAD SYSTEM] Analyzing...
[NORAD SYSTEM] Additional analysis required.
[NORAD SYSTEM] Forwarding...

"Mr. President."
"Not now Raymond, I have to turn this bullshit job creation plan I just spun to the press into actual jobs for Americans."
"With all due respect, sir, this cannot wait."
"Then this better be brief."
"Intelligence is reporting a Russian fleet mobilizing in the Pacific. Satellite reconnaisance shows that their trajectory indicates they're heading towards the West Coast."
"...the hell are they doing. Did they not see what we did in Canada?"
"I couldn't tell you, sir."
"Take us down to DEFCON 4. Alert the Seventh Fleet and every base on the West Coast. This could be nothing, but we will not be caught unaware. We always shoot first, general."
"Yes sir."
"Contact their ambassador. If they do not change course we need to speak with this guy."
"Very good, sir."
"There is going to be hell to pay if this new Russian regime thinks they can scare us after that little incident in Canada."
"The Task Force recommends a cautionary approach."
"All of them?"
"No, most of them voted to shoot first."
"Well, take us down to DEFCON 4. Phone our ambassador in Moscow. We're taking this seriously but I am not about to let some Russian fleet deter me from dinner out with my wife."
"I, ah, will screen your calls."
"That's why you're here, Raymond. That's why you're here."

It is now Day One, DEFCON 4.

Total War has failed.

The game will proceed as normal. All players have until

Sunday, November 20th, 2016, at 1PM PST.

to submit their Deployment Preferences. If you do not submit by this time, a Missile Silo in Nuclear Launch Mode will automatically be deployed for you. If all deployments are received before this date, DEFCON 3 will begin as soon as possible.

I went ahead and banked the remaining DEFCON 5 discussion time (~1 day 18hr) into the DEFCON 4 time limit as we discussed previously. Again, if

all players submit their choices before deadline, DEFCON 4 will end early.

Good luck.

[McMenno]

I've let go of an ircher scumread before, won't happen again

also first

[GreyICE]

I've let go of an ircher scumread before, won't happen again

also first

Oh cool, tell me.

How did he fool you before and what reminds you of that time?

[Accountant]

@greyice I checked your iso you have no reads other than saying papa zito is scum

What are your reads?

[Accountant]

oh wait you also have a townread on dayne

point still stands

[GreyICE]

None really. The game just started. And if you think I care about pregame posturing when nothing is at stake and no one can die, you're... accountant.

[Accountant]

There's a difference between caring about pregame posturing and not having any reads in 30 pages. Are you only capable of reading people when there's lynches up?

[mastina]

i want to see the mastina i know.

The mastina you want is already here. I mean, I'm PMing reads as of this quote to the mod, because I'm not sharing them in here (I didn't think it felt appropriate), but I already told the mod yesterday (and told the mod to post said thing to spoiled players because I'll be pissed if that wasn't shared) exactly what I am doing.

I know you're town here (so I'm not worried you're missing it), but I was honestly a bit surprised.

Of all the people here, I thought you'd be the first one to figure it out.

I AM the mastina you know.

Reconcile that with what I've posted thusfar.

[mastina]

i imagine she probably planned on trolling before opening her role PM.

My first post would've been identical as scum, yeah. Probably not as a serial killer, but as scum, definitely. And some of the complaining would be similar. But at some point, I'd have switched into the serial killer plan, modified for the new alignment. The trolling was something I had in store purely for drawing town.

[mastina]

Doesn't matter, it's not nearly as clever as she seems to think it is and needs to be brought to an abrupt end.

I respectfully disagree.

It is rather clever, you just have to know the full picture which you either don't or are pretending not to.

Now whether it was something you think I should've done, that's a different matter, you're free to disagree and I already said I may owe you an apology, but it's clever regardless of whether it should be acceptable.

[Accountant]

i want to see the mastina i know.

The mastina you want is already here. I mean, I'm PMing reads as of this quote to the mod, because I'm not sharing them in here (I didn't think it felt appropriate), but I already told the mod yesterday (and told the mod to post said thing to spoiled players because I'll be pissed if that wasn't shared) exactly what I am doing.

I know you're town here (so I'm not worried you're missing it), but I was honestly a bit surprised.

Of all the people here, I thought you'd be the first one to figure it out.

I AM the mastina you know.

Reconcile that with what I've posted thusfar.

"exactly what I am doing"

so you're saying there's some grand scheme behind everything you're doing? it's all a gigantic trap card?

that doesn't match up with what you said earlier in which you basically went "ha ha, I am clueless person, I don't know how to troll and shitpost so i'll just muck around and have fun "

[Accountant]

This is DEFCON MAFIA. You're supposed to be a TROLL.
I don't know how to troll as town! Shit!
Uh...don't suppose someone here can teach me?

^ mastina was this genuine? or yet another part of your intricate keikaku to unearth the communists?

[mastina]

theres no way mastina survives more than like a day regardless of my read on her

This is a given.

[McMenno]

I've let go of an ircher scumread before, won't happen again

also first

Oh cool, tell me.

How did he fool you before and what reminds you of that time?

I scumread him

then I did not

then someone sarcastically asked me to recount these events

the end

[mastina]

I think mastin is fully aware shes gonna get bombed quite early on (though probably not in the same way she thinks)

If it's any way other than by town, I would be absolutely shocked. Not QUITE sure how it'll happen though. It's literally a cointoss between nuke and lynch. I did make a personal bet (which I PMed to the mod), but I'm not going to share it in here. Suffice to say I will die in the exact way I think UNLESS it is by scum.

[mastina]

is the scumteam really nahdia mcmenno ut????

Given time I can read McMenno. Too little content yet for me to be sure, but he's solidly in the middle of my list.
Nahdia's lowish on my list, but I wouldn't place them as my top priority for lynching. (Probably a good investigate though if we can ensure that there's no way to fuck with the investigation.) They're actually fifth-lowest on my incomplete, not yet quite accurate scumread list I have. (Any guesses for who the four stronger scumreads are?)

I have a feeling you're right about UT though.

[mastina]

Oh also I'm going to sheep LLD's read on GICE. I think unless they're both scum, she's prob telling the truth about that read regardless of her alignment.

Well LLD is scum, the question is whether GreyICE is or not. He's in dead null territory for me right now unfortunately, so no help there.

[mastina]

so you're saying there's some grand scheme behind everything you're doing?

No shit, sherlock.
I'm MASTINA.
Of course I have a fucking plan.
That doesn't, mind you, mean it's a GOOD plan.
But I always HAVE a plan.

that doesn't match up with what you said earlier in which you basically went "ha ha, I am clueless person, I don't know how to troll and shitpost so i'll just muck around and have fun "

The two aren't mutually exclusive.

[mastina]

This is DEFCON MAFIA. You're supposed to be a TROLL.
I don't know how to troll as town! Shit!
Uh...don't suppose someone here can teach me?

^ mastina was this genuine?

Of course it wasn't!
I explicitly told you that I would've posted the same thing as scum.
By implication, that means I planned to say it before entering the thread.
In other words: faked it. (Not sure what I would've done if I drew serial killer, but it'd have been something different.)

Now mind you.

The statement still stands.

I absolutely don't know how to troll as town. I basically am trying to be a shitty Firebringer copy.
But all the same, in spite of the truth behind the statement, the statement was fabricated in advance of the game.