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Post Post #800 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 7:18 am

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If you post these 3 posts in succession:
In post 644, Ircher wrote:I might try a different catch up style this game... I've always been bad at finding scum just by reading posts and looking for what sticks out, so I might try a different approach and see if it works better for me.

That said, summaries are always appreciated.
In post 645, Ircher wrote:And, as evidenced by the signup thread, I voted no to Total War partially because I don't want to be nuked N1 (very likely regardless of my alignment) and because I think that that adds too much chaos to this game at the beginning.

I have other responsibilities to do including homework and other modding commitments, and this game generally comes as last in my priority list.
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@Mod - Since Toogeloo's vote wouldn't change anything anyway, can we go ahead and move on into Defcon 4?
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Post Post #801 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 7:19 am

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In post 781, xRECKONERx wrote:
In post 708, GuyInFreezer wrote:Oh also I'm going to sheep LLD's read on GICE. I think unless they're both scum, she's prob telling the truth about that read regardless of her alignment.
so basically, the options are:

LLD scum, GreyICE town
LLD town, GreyICE town
LLD scum, GreyICE scum

So you've basically not narrowed down the possibilities at all, gj
But "LLD town, GreyICE scum" is not there. Clearly it narrowed down the possibility.
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Post Post #802 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 7:24 am

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In post 796, MagnaofIllusion wrote:Pro-Tip - if there is real "low hanging fruit" in this playerlist it is McMenno.
ye boii

okay folks my hitlist is only 4 people long, more scummy posting please

but less walltastic ego-posting
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Post Post #803 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 7:25 am

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Also this is me saying that so far whenever people say that certain posts are "forced" I don't see them forced.
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Post Post #804 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 7:28 am

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Oh also Cephrir looks meh but I do understand that this is still the glorified pre-game right now.
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Post Post #805 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 7:29 am

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In post 704, GuyInFreezer wrote:I mean, this whole thing matches up nicely.

He screws up with #26, people gives him flak, he tries to pass that off as reaction test.
Fails, so he backtracks.

Like, it matches up wayyyyyy to nicely to be considered as just a possibility. The timing and everything.
This is bull. If I wanted to pass it off as a reaction test, I'd be calling it a reaction test. Show where my apparently subtle attempt to do so "failed", and why I couldn't have just said it was if I wanted to backtrack.
And , while true, was not my actual answer to question. The point of 409 was to say that you can analyze reactions to any post, not just ones that are designed to generate reactions.
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In post 694, GuyInFreezer wrote:There's this #4 too but it's kinda personal thing.
I enjoy reaction testing a lot in the most perverted (No, not sexually perverted) way possible, but I can't seem to find the purpose of reaction testing with stuff like #26.
Like, if he was actually reaction testing with that post, what exactly was he trying to fish and what kind of reaction was he looking for while doing that?
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In post 766, GuyInFreezer wrote:
In post 750, Fate wrote:GiF is straight town at this point

Hopefully there are some seasoned commies to nuke
Yeah I agree.
Goddammit this confused me so badly. Not cool.
In post 767, MagnaofIllusion wrote:Sure it can mean that. For certain my scum read on you isn’t “Bet the game on it” level of confidence. Fact remains the way you specifically hedge from making any sort of assessment at all struck me as suspect on initial read.
I asked him a question, and wanted to wait until he answered it. (He still hasn't fully answered it, but he kind of dropped what he was pushing anyway.)
Nope. What is off about them is, as you later clarify, are all vague “gut” reads that have nothing other than “I don’t like it” about them. Given that my reads don’t line up with yours and your reasoning is “gut” the first place my mind goes is scum faking reads.
Oh, I see. So it's not that my reads don't agree with yours, it's that I gave them at all, upon being asked, even though they weren't that strong. (Because I never have solid reads early day 1, and this wasn't even day 1.)
Nope. I’m pointing out that out for future analysis if you ever flip scum. Kind of absurd for you to claim I’m using that to “prove” you are scum.
Well you're at least making it look like evidence by pointing it out in the midst of an argument that I'm scum.
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Post Post #806 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 7:31 am

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In post 804, GuyInFreezer wrote:Oh also Cephrir looks meh but I do understand that this is still the glorified pre-game right now.
excuse me but are you saying that this scumdar I have set to "pre-game" and "all scumz" is
not accurate
? it even has the titus stamp of approval and all
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Post Post #807 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 7:32 am

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In post 798, SpyreX wrote:I'm losing my mind i swear to god i saw something that said a full list miss was lol f u
I'll do some digging but I'm at a loss here as I've never seen someone vanilla.
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Post Post #808 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 7:33 am

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your face is meh
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Post Post #809 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 7:33 am

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In post 805, Something_Smart wrote:If I wanted to pass it off as a reaction test, I'd be calling it a reaction test.
See, timing.
In post 805, Something_Smart wrote:Show where my apparently subtle attempt to do so "failed"
It didn't get you any townpoints except for, well, SAD dude. Clearly you failed.
In post 805, Something_Smart wrote:and why I couldn't have just said it was if I wanted to backtrack.
Because it would be silly thing to do against all the common sense as scum. But I'm a nutjob and I value silly things.
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Post Post #810 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 7:33 am

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In post 808, Cephrir wrote:your face is meh
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Post Post #811 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 7:34 am

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In post 803, GuyInFreezer wrote:Also this is me saying that so far whenever people say that certain posts are "forced" I don't see them forced.
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Post Post #812 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 7:34 am

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In post 805, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 766, GuyInFreezer wrote:
In post 750, Fate wrote:GiF is straight town at this point

Hopefully there are some seasoned commies to nuke
Yeah I agree.
Goddammit this confused me so badly. Not cool.
So this gut scum read of yours does some quote tampering and your reaction is "Not Cool" and not "scummy"?
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Post Post #813 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 7:35 am

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Yes.

Who the hell would find that scummy?
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Post Post #814 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 7:37 am

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This guy fucks i approve.

Although really what moi is getting at is vi is false here. Or itsnjazzhands

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Post Post #815 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 7:38 am

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In post 796, MagnaofIllusion wrote:1. How does this surprise you about mastin?
2. You are still reading his posts?
i go so long without reading his posts that i start to think "maybe im just being unfair" so i read them again then i have a seizure and die
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Post Post #816 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 7:39 am

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Post Post #817 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 7:41 am

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In post 815, xRECKONERx wrote:i go so long without reading his posts that i start to think "maybe im just being unfair" so i read them again then i have a seizure and die
Are zombies nuke proof? Because ... hey ... it might work out in your favor I guess ...
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Post Post #818 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 7:41 am

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In post 801, GuyInFreezer wrote:
In post 781, xRECKONERx wrote:
In post 708, GuyInFreezer wrote:Oh also I'm going to sheep LLD's read on GICE. I think unless they're both scum, she's prob telling the truth about that read regardless of her alignment.
so basically, the options are:

LLD scum, GreyICE town
LLD town, GreyICE town
LLD scum, GreyICE scum

So you've basically not narrowed down the possibilities at all, gj
But "LLD town, GreyICE scum" is not there. Clearly it narrowed down the possibility.
okay so if you read LLD as town, then GreyICE is town

do you read LLD as town.
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Post Post #819 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 7:45 am

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Well she's in my "not dealing with until Day 3" list.
But the whole point of the post was that unless they're both scum together, regardless of her alignment if LLD says GICE is town, then he probably is.
Which people shouted down at me for being lazy and the accuracy is not as high as I believed.
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Post Post #820 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 7:46 am

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Told me that the accuracy is not as high as I believed.
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Post Post #821 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 7:52 am

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Can SAD explain to me what makes an interaction "forced"? What would prompt a "forced" interaction?

It's the sort of hollow rhetoric I see tossed around a lot, and I'm curious what it means in this context.

Not fully caught up and phone posting, some personal stuff happened to my roommate last night so I didn't have much time for mafia.
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Post Post #822 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 7:59 am

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Is it nuke o'clock yet.

There are too many people in this game.
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Post Post #823 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 8:12 am

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Kind of leaning SS back towards town.
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Post Post #824 (ISO) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 8:41 am

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1. Finish my math homework
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3. Read the whole game and post good shit
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