DEFCON Mafia 4.0 - СЛАВА РОССИИ МАТЕРИ

[Nukebringer]

So how's everyone? Are we thankful that the Nukes got delayed?

Pretty sure it's just you, so enjoy your BORROWED TIME mate.

[Nukebringer]

because the others have at least a smidgeon of justification. mastina nuke to stop the trolling? makes sense. nukebringer nuke because... he's a hydra??? like, it's not a policy nuke, it's a random nuke. "vote X for being a hydra" is something I'd expect to see in RVS.

Does this behavior make more sense as scum or make more sense as town? Why?

[Ircher]

If you post these 3 posts in succession:

I might try a different catch up style this game... I've always been bad at finding scum just by reading posts and looking for what sticks out, so I might try a different approach and see if it works better for me.

That said, summaries are always appreciated.

And, as evidenced by the signup thread, I voted no to Total War partially because I don't want to be nuked N1 (very likely regardless of my alignment) and because I think that that adds too much chaos to this game at the beginning.

I have other responsibilities to do including homework and other modding commitments, and this game generally comes as last in my priority list.

@Mod - Since Toogeloo's vote wouldn't change anything anyway, can we go ahead and move on into Defcon 4?

You need some Jesus or something.

Whats wrong with them?

1) Whats wrong with trying something different. Especially if what you usually do doesn't work very well? Not all of us are great at mafia; not all of us are even good at mafia.
2) It's an opinion. What's wrong with an opinion. Also, what's wrong with having other IRL stuff and commitments?
3) Ok, thats perhaps is a bit questionable, but it's more an attempt to keep the game moving versus trying to be rude. Still not sure what the big deal.

Pedit: Be thankful that I won't nuke anyone.

Pedit2: No?

[Spiffeh]

I think MoI is town

[Spiffeh]

okay folks my hitlist is only 4 people long, more scummy posting please

Who are they?

[Ircher]

I've let go of an ircher scumread before, won't happen again

also first

I've no clue what you're talking about right now.

[Cheetory6]

Why am I defending someone who is ignoring shit directed at them.

[Nukebringer]

It's more the fact that you made those three posts in succession. Like you're just being defensive right off the bat, and then it doesn't help that you're carrying this attitude of OH AREN'T YOU GRATEFUL FOR ME STOPPING THE NUKES even though you make it p clear that you did that out of self-interest.

[Papa Zito]

NUKE: Mastina

[Nukebringer]

Why am I defending someone who is ignoring shit directed at them.

I have no idea what Spiffeh is talking about, and unfortunately the amount of fucks I have for this game does not equal the amount required to dive into the meta of someone I already trust. So. Try again in a few hours?

[Ircher]

Please explain which low hanging fruit I have gone after.

Ircher. Duh. I pointed it out when you did it.

Do you see the difference.

I have Ircher as null and wanted to get a better read on him, so in the hope that he stops being useless, I tried to push on him to do something in fear that all he was going to do was those 3 posts then fade back into oblivion.

You on the other hand specially scumread a low hanging fruit and started building a case on him.

Hey, reading the thread took like 1h 30m yesterday FOR 10 PAGES! So, you can su about "fading back into oblivion".

Pedit: Whelp, so much for a flawless game.....

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Can SAD explain to me what makes an interaction "forced"? What would prompt a "forced" interaction?

It's the sort of hollow rhetoric I see tossed around a lot, and I'm curious what it means in this context.

Forced is when you have to make leaps to prove a point.

MoI literally makes huge leaps to try and discredit Something Special. For example:

Given that my reads don’t line up with yours and your reasoning is “gut” the first place my mind goes is scum faking reads.

When the one is the player who specifically Town read him for whack-a-mole reasons it is worthy of an early scum read.

Here he takes what he "would do" and then tries to discredit Something Special's logic instead of directly pointing out why he doesn't like his logic.

In addition, lining up flips/lynches the way MoI hints at:

Nope. I’m pointing out that out for future analysis if you ever flip scum.

Is ridiculous especially on Day 1.

[Spiffeh]

I have no idea what Spiffeh is talking about, and unfortunately the amount of fucks I have for this game does not equal the amount required to dive into the meta of someone I already trust. So. Try again in a few hours?

I mean if you're Equinox (I think you are) it's not really your response I was interested anyway?

[Ircher]

It's more the fact that you made those three posts in succession. Like you're just being defensive right off the bat, and then it doesn't help that you're carrying this attitude of OH AREN'T YOU GRATEFUL FOR ME STOPPING THE NUKES even though you make it p clear that you did that out of self-interest.

It was self-interest for the nukes.

Concerning my "attitude", you gotta to remember its Thanksgiving in the US; hence my commentary although I see what you mean.

[Nukebringer]

I mean if you're Equinox (I think you are) it's not really your response I was interested anyway?

Glad we agree on this point. How about we not exchange nukes for the next four days or so?

[Spiffeh]

Something Smart it's great that you can you defend yourself and all but can you provide some reads/explain the ones you gave before?

tia

[Ircher]

It's more the fact that you made those three posts in succession. Like you're just being defensive right off the bat, and then it doesn't help that you're carrying this attitude of OH AREN'T YOU GRATEFUL FOR ME STOPPING THE NUKES even though you make it p clear that you did that out of self-interest.

It was self-interest for the nukes.

Concerning my "attitude", you gotta to remember its Thanksgiving in the US; hence my commentary although I see what you mean.

Also, not really "defensive" so much as explaining some things off the bat.

[Accountant]

because the others have at least a smidgeon of justification. mastina nuke to stop the trolling? makes sense. nukebringer nuke because... he's a hydra??? like, it's not a policy nuke, it's a random nuke. "vote X for being a hydra" is something I'd expect to see in RVS.

Does this behavior make more sense as scum or make more sense as town? Why?

it def makes more sense as scum, which is why I called it scummy

it's clear that lots of people are just fucking around because pregame, so it makes sense to try to push a random nuke through and hope someone is troll/dumb enough to carry it through

[Spiffeh]

I'm having trouble getting reads on like 50% of the playerlist so I look forward to all of you getting nuked and making this easier

[Accountant]

so basically ircher needs to eat rope because he almost certainly has bunker or failsafe or defense missiles with teh way he's been acting

[Spiffeh]

I think the play here is to form a group of universally town read players and punish anyone that tries to nuke within that group with death

Cheet and Accountant are my most confident town reads that I'm willing to suggest for this "bloc" atm

[SpyreX]

This guy fucks i approve.

Although really what moi is getting at is vi is false here. Or itsnjazzhands

Damnitnpedits thats for arthur

spyrex why

Why for moi?

More that it's not vi, but wearing a vi mask. Vis are a special creature rare like a unicorn.

Now people that are horses with glued on horns..

[Ircher]

so basically ircher needs to eat rope because he almost certainly has bunker or failsafe or defense missiles with teh way he's been acting

What's wrong with that stuff?

[Cheetory6]

I think the play here is to form a group of universally town read players and punish anyone that tries to nuke within that group with death

Put MOI in there too I think.
Especially in terms of high utility players anyway.

[Spiffeh]

Oh yeah I meant to include him too