Spoiler: Summary & Thoughts Pg 21-25
1. Pg 21 #502 --> Spiffeh states Smart and Nuke needs nuke <-- Why Nukebringer? I understand Smart (he really does need lynch anyway), but not Nukebringer
2. Pg 21 #507 --> Spiffeh explains a possible scumread of Guy <-- I agree that the evidence suggests this, but I question whether or not this is scum. Do you have any meta with town!Guy? Does he normally act like such? (Huge reason why I believe meta is important even though it's not holy).
3. Pg 21 #511 --> Zito lols at a quote of Soiffeh's null reads in #511 <-- What's so funny?
4. Pg 21 #514 --> Arthur copies what Zito did only quoting the Cephrir townread <-- Wasn't funny the 1st time and even less so the 2nd time. What don't you like about the Cephrir read and why?
5. Pg 21 #516 --> Zito wants to kill Nuke for being a hydra <-- And the purpose of such a policy lynch/nuke is _____. PLs have, in my experience, been generally bad ideas without sufficient warrant (eg: mastina trolling in this game is disruptive to the flow of the game & should be dealt with)
6. Pg 21 #519 --> Arthur leans town on Smart <-- Why? What has Smart done that you found townie?
7. Pg 22 #529 --> Nuke scumreads Spiffeh cuz the reads seem fake & apparent lack of opinion on Nuke despite scumread <-- I can see this.
8. Pg 22 #533 --> Spiffeh argues meta experience when reading Nukebringer head & that head is trying to discredit from the get go <-- Unless I'm mistaken, aren't you talking to Equinox? Fire has signed a lot of his posts, and yet I feel as if you're referring to Fire here. Just asking for clarification.
9. Pg 22 #536 --> Top part of Red's post states that the Total War vote doesn't matter versus the argument itself <-- I beg to differ; those who vote against should be required to give some form of explanation which can later be used for scumhunting and consistency checks. The vote alone is indeed practically useless at this point, but the motive behind the choice is still important.
10. Pg 22 #542 --> Arthur has a problem with Red voting against Total War <-- Why is that an issue? Besides, Red had already way back when mentioned he was leaning towards such anyway.
11. Pg 22 #547 --> Hiplop has a solid townread on Grey <-- Where does that townread come from? Grey has done so little that it's not worth keeping space in my readslist for him.
12. Pg 23 #557 --> Red posts a readslist <-- This readslist is unreadable cuz its a sliding scale with no indication of where null reads fall.
13. Pg 23 #558 --> Lady Lamb calls put Hiplop for backing off on his strong townread of mastina after a little pressure <-- Agreed.
14. Pg 23 #563 --> Hiplop states that mastina will be killed anyway regardless of Hiplop's read <-- That's a non-answer. I'm more curious as to why you are evading the question.
15. Pg 23 #565 --> Hiplop has scumvibes on Errant <-- Elaborate; Errant has barely posted in-thread
16. Pg 23 #568 --> Arthur calls Red for fluffing in the thread <-- You and Lamb thought alike on this score; see #167
17. Pg 23 #572 --> Hiplop speculates scumteam is Nahdia-McMenno-Untrod team <-- Interesting.... Care to elaborate?
18. Pg 24 #575 --> McMenno states Lamb is scum <-- Can you elaborate on this read?
19. Pg 24 #581 --> Spiffeh cannot understand why anyone is townreading Firebringer after his "bull****ery" <-- If you're referring to the trolling, then I don't understand how that is at all indicative of Fire!scum. Enlighten me perhaps?
20. Pg 24 #585 --> Nahdia's 3 townreads are Cheetory, Zito, Cephrir <-- I understand all of those except perhaps Zito.
21. Pg 24 #587 --> McMenno asks Hiplop who the terrorist is <-- Why are you so keen on finding the terrorist right now?
22. Pg 24 #588 --> Guy states Nahdia is town <-- Question: Are you gonna to continue to post 1-liners?
23. Pg 25 #601 --> Arthur states he was watching for those who go for low-hanging fruit and says Magna & Cephrir already fell for it <-- Seems a pretty bad idea in terms of early analysis especially since I don't see Nahdia as a VI and Smart being a VI is debatable. How confident are you in the accuracy of this "trap card"?
24. Pg 25 #603 --> Guy states Low Hanging Fruit != Town <-- Totally agree w/ this although you have to be more cautious when reading them
25. Pg 25 #610 --> Smart thinks that Guy is saying low hanging fruit = scum & that's the reason for scumread <-- I might reevaluate my read here, but thats not at all what they were saying. Bad posts can be town, they can be scum, they can be neutral/null.
26. Pg 25 #611 --> Arthur says VIs are town if they sound genuine <-- And how do you guage genuineness?
27. Pg 25 #619 --> Grey makes a post addressed at Arthur about the trap card nonsense and bad players can draw scum too <-- Concur entirely with what was said in this post
28. Pg 25 #622 --> Arthur found Smart's #405 to be genuine because he had to think about the setup <-- Too much wine in front of me this game..... Ugh.... And I don't even drink (nor am allowed to....)
2. Pg 21 #507 --> Spiffeh explains a possible scumread of Guy <-- I agree that the evidence suggests this, but I question whether or not this is scum. Do you have any meta with town!Guy? Does he normally act like such? (Huge reason why I believe meta is important even though it's not holy).
3. Pg 21 #511 --> Zito lols at a quote of Soiffeh's null reads in #511 <-- What's so funny?
4. Pg 21 #514 --> Arthur copies what Zito did only quoting the Cephrir townread <-- Wasn't funny the 1st time and even less so the 2nd time. What don't you like about the Cephrir read and why?
5. Pg 21 #516 --> Zito wants to kill Nuke for being a hydra <-- And the purpose of such a policy lynch/nuke is _____. PLs have, in my experience, been generally bad ideas without sufficient warrant (eg: mastina trolling in this game is disruptive to the flow of the game & should be dealt with)
6. Pg 21 #519 --> Arthur leans town on Smart <-- Why? What has Smart done that you found townie?
7. Pg 22 #529 --> Nuke scumreads Spiffeh cuz the reads seem fake & apparent lack of opinion on Nuke despite scumread <-- I can see this.
8. Pg 22 #533 --> Spiffeh argues meta experience when reading Nukebringer head & that head is trying to discredit from the get go <-- Unless I'm mistaken, aren't you talking to Equinox? Fire has signed a lot of his posts, and yet I feel as if you're referring to Fire here. Just asking for clarification.
9. Pg 22 #536 --> Top part of Red's post states that the Total War vote doesn't matter versus the argument itself <-- I beg to differ; those who vote against should be required to give some form of explanation which can later be used for scumhunting and consistency checks. The vote alone is indeed practically useless at this point, but the motive behind the choice is still important.
10. Pg 22 #542 --> Arthur has a problem with Red voting against Total War <-- Why is that an issue? Besides, Red had already way back when mentioned he was leaning towards such anyway.
11. Pg 22 #547 --> Hiplop has a solid townread on Grey <-- Where does that townread come from? Grey has done so little that it's not worth keeping space in my readslist for him.
12. Pg 23 #557 --> Red posts a readslist <-- This readslist is unreadable cuz its a sliding scale with no indication of where null reads fall.
13. Pg 23 #558 --> Lady Lamb calls put Hiplop for backing off on his strong townread of mastina after a little pressure <-- Agreed.
14. Pg 23 #563 --> Hiplop states that mastina will be killed anyway regardless of Hiplop's read <-- That's a non-answer. I'm more curious as to why you are evading the question.
15. Pg 23 #565 --> Hiplop has scumvibes on Errant <-- Elaborate; Errant has barely posted in-thread
16. Pg 23 #568 --> Arthur calls Red for fluffing in the thread <-- You and Lamb thought alike on this score; see #167
17. Pg 23 #572 --> Hiplop speculates scumteam is Nahdia-McMenno-Untrod team <-- Interesting.... Care to elaborate?
18. Pg 24 #575 --> McMenno states Lamb is scum <-- Can you elaborate on this read?
19. Pg 24 #581 --> Spiffeh cannot understand why anyone is townreading Firebringer after his "bull****ery" <-- If you're referring to the trolling, then I don't understand how that is at all indicative of Fire!scum. Enlighten me perhaps?
20. Pg 24 #585 --> Nahdia's 3 townreads are Cheetory, Zito, Cephrir <-- I understand all of those except perhaps Zito.
21. Pg 24 #587 --> McMenno asks Hiplop who the terrorist is <-- Why are you so keen on finding the terrorist right now?
22. Pg 24 #588 --> Guy states Nahdia is town <-- Question: Are you gonna to continue to post 1-liners?
23. Pg 25 #601 --> Arthur states he was watching for those who go for low-hanging fruit and says Magna & Cephrir already fell for it <-- Seems a pretty bad idea in terms of early analysis especially since I don't see Nahdia as a VI and Smart being a VI is debatable. How confident are you in the accuracy of this "trap card"?
24. Pg 25 #603 --> Guy states Low Hanging Fruit != Town <-- Totally agree w/ this although you have to be more cautious when reading them
25. Pg 25 #610 --> Smart thinks that Guy is saying low hanging fruit = scum & that's the reason for scumread <-- I might reevaluate my read here, but thats not at all what they were saying. Bad posts can be town, they can be scum, they can be neutral/null.
26. Pg 25 #611 --> Arthur says VIs are town if they sound genuine <-- And how do you guage genuineness?
27. Pg 25 #619 --> Grey makes a post addressed at Arthur about the trap card nonsense and bad players can draw scum too <-- Concur entirely with what was said in this post
28. Pg 25 #622 --> Arthur found Smart's #405 to be genuine because he had to think about the setup <-- Too much wine in front of me this game..... Ugh.... And I don't even drink (nor am allowed to....)
Spoiler: Reads
Confirmed Town
(From my perspective) (98%-100% Confidence)Ircher (100%) - Role PM
Likely Town
(85%-97% Confidence)Cheetory (88%) - I really liked his early posts especially #23; just strong town vibes from this guy. I continue to see multiple strong posts from this slot like #424.
Leaning Town
(60%-84% Confidence)Accountant (80%) - Have liked this slot's observations so far, esp. #361. Continued to like the observations & questions throughout pages 16 and 17.
Magna (68%) - Post #225 was a very strong post and seems to be a typical town!Magna post, and Magna continues to make well-reasoned and valid posts like #452. (Not sure if I got scum meta with Magna though...)
GuyInFreezer (66%) - His posts are fine, but need more substance.
SpyreX (60%) - Meh, I'm satisfied with this slot for now. The trolling was just the beginning of the game; it stopped a long time ago.
Null
(0% - 30% Confidence; No/Very Weak Read)Grey (+25%) - One good post from this slot (#619), but otherwise, nothing to read this slot off of.
McMenno (-3%) - Was a bit keen on finding the terrorist which I feel is less important than finding group!scum
Papa Zito (-8%) - Not much from here either; kinda didn't like #39 even though its a troll post.... Didn't like how he seemingly did a thorough read of the thread in 20 minutes; seems unrealistic.
Untrod Tripod (-11%) - Has this slot even done anything constructive yet? Seems to be "Nuking X" then "I'm gonna Nuke Y" with the sole intention of making the thread longer.
Nukebringer (-13%) - Nothing to townread here and a lot of finger-pointing and trolling. Starting not to like this.
Mastina (-15%) - Being utterly useless (KTS useless or worse) and needs rope immediately. Probably not mafia, but I could see this as a Terrorist. Day 1 PL please. Leaning towards null now.
Neutral
(31%-59% Confidence; Mixed Read)Nahdia (+55%) - Very clear and articulate; post #210 gave me strong town vibes. I also liked post #443.
Cephrir (+42%) - On further investigation, especially with the meta description, I'm back to leaning towards town on this slot.
Lamb (+3%) - Could go either way here. My read keeps flip-flopping; half the stuff seems town; the other half scum
Spiffeh (-32%) - I haven't followed this slot's reads in terms of why -- Seems toorandom
Arthur (-40%) - Decent entrance, but I wasn't a huge fan of his comments on page 17, esp. asking Accountant to be in a townbloc with him. His defense of Smart seems over done & the result of multiple logical fallancies.
Hiplop (-59%) - Is just throwing out stuff that make zero sense; reads APPEAR to be contradictory and inconsistent from one post to the next.
Leaning Scum
(60%-75% Confidence)RedCoyote (-68%) - I was townreading Red until Lamb's comment in #167 which got me suspicious. Red proceeds to post #180 which really struck me as what Lamb said in #167. While some of Red's info has seemed useful, a lot of it really does look like filler and trying to look busy.
xRECKONERx (-70%) - I really didn't like the way he voted No to Total War.... Some of his posts like #321 really look like scum posts, but the slot's posts are starting to look better. Possibly reevaluate this slot (?)
Likely Scum
(76%-100% Confidence)Something_Smart (-89%) - Post #26 really pinged as the scum thing to do. Yes, it's a self-meta statement, but also the fact that he justs plans to sheep whoever and not try to solve the game is even more indicative of scum. His posts in pages 16-20 continue to be bad and indicative of scum. Needs rope. Considering the possibility that this is a weaker player, but Smart seems to be above the "Newbie-feel" and more on par with prob. my own skill in mafia.
