DEFCON Mafia 4.0 - СЛАВА РОССИИ МАТЕРИ

[Lady Lambdadelta]

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Jerk~

Why do you want to know and why should I tell you zito?

[Cephrir]

I agree. (Actually, Ircher being alive might be a valid excuse. But other than that, yeah.)

I thought you didn't have strong reads and/or couldn't explain them

Where is this coming from?

[Cephrir]

Well, I mean, that line was me saying that my reads are going to be so much worse than everyone else's. But in any event, he still didn't explain why he found anything I did scummy.

"Hey kettle, you're black"

[Something_Smart]

I agree. (Actually, Ircher being alive might be a valid excuse. But other than that, yeah.)

I thought you didn't have strong reads and/or couldn't explain them

Where is this coming from?

things are changing I'm forming reads

I still don't like Nukebringer and I don't feel like they'd be that useful if they were town anyway

(and besides I said I didn't have ENOUGH strong reads then. I have a few more now.)

Well, I mean, that line was me saying that my reads are going to be so much worse than everyone else's. But in any event, he still didn't explain why he found anything I did scummy.

"Hey kettle, you're black"

at least I'm not trying to make it look like I am explaining. Ircher's explanation was that much worse because it masqueraded as an explanation but was in fact absolutely nothing.

[Papa Zito]

Why do you want to know and why should I tell you zito?

Is there some reason why I shouldn't know?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Why do you want to know and why should I tell you zito?

Is there some reason why I shouldn't know?

Beyond people who draw my ire for being bad, or people I want to lynch (like Mastin) why would I give my targets the luxury of announcing my intent to nuke them before I do it?

The reaction is far more potent when suddenly they're being nuked and there's 24 hours for them to convince me I'm wrong or they can join the rest of the pretty glowing radioactive ash.

So give me a good reason why I SHOULD inform you or anyone?

[SpyreX]

Cause then i can feel your vibe yo

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

How much of the thread (in terms of pages) did you read before posting your first post?

0

I skimmed the mods iso looking to see why we didn't go to total war. That was it.

Hmm why is your first question then asking whose fault it was we didn't go to war if you already know via ISOing the mid?

And one last question I promise:

On a scale of 1-10 how excited were you right after opening your role pm and reading it?

[Cephrir]

(and besides I said I didn't have ENOUGH strong reads then. I have a few more now.)

do i REALLY need to say "okay can you explain them now"

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Cause then i can feel your vibe yo

You should know by now I don't play well with others, Spyspy-chan.

You want to know about the people I want to lynch? By all means.

You wanna bounce reads off me? I'll give you my two cents.

But if you're expecting me to let you see more of how my mind works or where my head is fully at, you're only deluding yourself.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Or to say it another way

I am unconcerned with the reads of you or anyone else. I'll win this game whether you read me as town or not, I'm don't care.

[Cephrir]

Whoever has been calling LLD scum: go suck an egg you are the most wrong

[Cheetory6]

Are you that confident in your ability to read her?
:/

[Vaxkiller]

Hmm why is your first question then asking whose fault it was we didn't go to war if you already know via ISOing the mid?

And one last question I promise:

On a scale of 1-10 how excited were you right after opening your role pm and reading it?

Last 2 questions you mean?

1. I was skimming and I saw most of the posts said "not voting: everyonelse". So I saw posts like 505 but missed 559

You caught me. Biggest scum tell in the books

2. I was going to accuse of rolefishing, but then this game doesn't start with those traditional roles.

Is this a mafia related 1-10 scale (like 1 being the least excited in opening a role and 10 being most excited opening my role?) or a life scale (1 being falling out of a tree and breaking 5 bones in my foot and 10 being the birth of my little one)?

They would be 6 and 5 respectively.

[Cephrir]

Are you that confident in your ability to read her?
:/

well, no, i'm not that confident about anything ever, but i feel pretty good at the moment

[Cheetory6]

Can you hold my hand/hit me in the face with a bit of your perspective on your read then?

[Cephrir]

Usually I get laughed at when I explain my townreads, but I'll try.

Things I liked:
-Starting out with wanting eavesdropper but seeming to shift towards wanting nukes because of all the scumbutts that need to be nuked
-Seemed to be doing some protown setup analysis/attempted breaking and approaching the game from a town mindset
-I've liked the way her usual aggressiveness has been tempered with playfulness; she is clearly having fun (554, 790, 837, 1114, etc.)
-The one time I've seen her as scum, she was less present than she was the time I've seen her as town and also this game
-553 and 558 are great posts
-I think that keeping reads in your pants can be a town trait depending on the context; I happen to believe that those reads actually exist

[Andrius]

This is 48 hour reminder to get your Draft Preferences in if you haven't already done so. No list means you default to a Missile Silo.

Prods going out tonight. Be warned.

[RedCoyote]

that is only true if you first assume him not to be a VI. I would suggest those summary posts are a very good indication he is, though

Ircher isn't a VI. Stop being elitist and mean Cephir.

When MoI tells you to check your smugness, you've got some problems, lmao

[RedCoyote]

For the record, MoI is correct. Though Ircher is a little annoying... I think Zito has the more "correct" stance on him. I don't really get anything scummy and/or anti-town off that.

[RedCoyote]

Perhaps like SAD, SS is growing on me. I'm also wondering why I ever liked Firebringer at all. Has Equinox even posted yet?

[Cheetory6]

I might bug you again about this later Ceph.
Appreciate time you took to put all that together, just feel like I need some time to see some stuff happen before
I can properly talk to you about everything on my mind there.

[RedCoyote]

Not really getting much off of Vax except I wonder why he asked about Total War in his opening post and never followed up on it.

[RedCoyote]

I don't know if I have any really controversial opinions thus far though (Total War vote notwithstanding). I'll say McMenno would surpass SS at this point in people that need to be lynched/nuked first. He's flying under the radar insomuch as he's not being talked about as needing rope sooner rather than later. Phony posts, following the crowd, faux-snark, etc.

[Papa Zito]

Or to say it another way

I am unconcerned with the reads of you or anyone else. I'll win this game whether you read me as town or not, I'm don't care.

This kind of attitude might be ok in standard mafia (we could have that funtimes discussion some other time) but it doesn't work in a game full of trigger-happy dayvigs. I'm sure I don't have to explain why.

Also surely it's easy to tell what my actual goal in asking this question is.