DEFCON Mafia 4.0 - СЛАВА РОССИИ МАТЕРИ

[mastina]

You have no idea what you're doing.

And you lose any credence of knowing anything about me by making this claim.

I'm MASTINA.

I know EXACTLY what I'm doing.

You just claimed without any reason whatsoever.

Oh gee, I gave the town knowledge they didn't have before--all thirteen troops are in play--and claimed my list order, when everyone wants me dead. Golly, that sure is no reason whatsoever to claim, yes it is! There's surely no POSSIBLE reason to claim and give the town that info when you're a top pick for being nuked.

You expect us to believe you're absent-minded enough to not understand how the draft system works.

Quite the opposite. I knew exactly how it works. If there was ANY power someone didn't say they really wanted...I would have gotten it.
But THIRTEEN players put in a unique choice as being at, or near, their top choice. One player put cop first, no surprise. Another doctor. No surprise. Eavesdrop I figured I wouldn't get but I put it up there anyway. Someone probably not town put roleblocker first. Someone probably the terrorist put ascetic/BP first. Someone probably scum put nerfed-tracker first. I knew I wasn't getting submarine and we know at least two people put it first. Someone put covert ops team high on their priority. Someone put strategic missile defense high on their priority. Someone hopefully town valued fighter more than I did. Someone either vain or scum put fallout shelter high. And I knew I wasn't getting counterintelligence because fuck getting counterintelligence, but I included it as a test of honesty essentially: if *I* got it, then Nahdia would be a fucking liar.

Anything after the second pick is a waste of time.

If everyone took this stance, and there was a troop nobody wanted, guess what?

MY stance. MY policy. Would have landed me one.

But either at least one other person took a similar policy and got better luck...
...Or EVERY troop had a player who valued it VERY highly. (The more likely of the two.)

And that was information good to have, but it's not like I was aiming for it.

I was explicitly aiming for a fucking COP SHOT.
Because if there's one thing I know how to use well.
It's a fucking cop.

I didn't get my top choice.
But I wasn't going to leave it there.
I wanted to make sure I got SOMETHING.
That something ended up as information: all thirteen troops are in play, and were valued.

[MagnaofIllusion]

I will refrain from namecalling which would call into question your intelligence and instead simply settle on calling into question your reading comprehension as the list was explicitly a most to least.

Lol. Just lol.

[mastina]

Was there ever any nonzero chance of mastin ever being a nightkill?

Sure.
Before I spoke.

After?

Haha fuck no I knew that my posting was basically a gigantic neon sign saying "DARE YOU".

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Please help why isn't it working

[Spiffeh]

The foe list doesn't work on the Mafia forum, only discussion forums

Because you wouldn't be playing the game correctly if you had someone on ignore

[MagnaofIllusion]

Please help why isn't it working

It only applies to Non-Mafia game forums.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

I assure you I would be playing the game correctly though.

[Spiffeh]

Also the fact that you aren't using that abhorrent site skin invalidates yours thoughts and feelings for the rest of the game

[mastina]

Sub is 100% must have material.

The only use town has for sub is to keep it out of the hands of scum.
It's the default fucking power of the game. You nuke someone. Well guess what? So does a fucking missile silo. So does the

damn "vanilla" power

. The use in the submarine is that it's anonymous and can be used slightly before a nuke can. (Two phases?) No shit I put zero stock in that power. I got it anyway even though I didn't want it!

Plus, Accountant already said Sub was their top choice so I valued powers like, you know, COP over a vig.
Cops I get guilties with.
Vigs I shoot town with.

[Accountant]

All the talk about RC being scum seems terrible and fluffy at best and an attempt to shift the wagon off UT at worst. I don't agree that Vax vs SAD is a bus; I can't imagine SAD would try to bus by asking a dumbass question and pretending to scumread Vax for it, especially not since this kind of bus out of nowhere is almost certainly planned in the scum PT.

@Cheetory: Nukebringer should still be burned to ashes. Don't take your eyes off the prize.

[mastina]

My understanding is that her objective was to ensure every troop was taken and grab any troop that was not taken by submitting all of them. In that case, no reason not to.

^Really, not that hard to understand. It's a basic damn concept. If I can't get this, I'll try for that. If I can't get that, I'll try for a third. Then fourth. Then fifth. Sixth, seventh, eighth, ninth, tenth, twelfth, and if all that fails, I'll get the thirteenth and last one.

Get none?

Well then every troop is in the game and the people who got them wanted them more than I did.

[Ircher]

Calm down mastina.

We can work this out together.

[Accountant]

I'm also wondering why Untrod is getting so much crap for having an empty pointless ISO while hiplop is getting none .. it puzzles me ...

hiplop doesn't pretend to be anything he's not, but Untrod makes an attempt to act as though he's contributing and wants to garner townreads for being all CASUAL!!! and JOKEY!!! (which is also what mastina is doing but more subtle)

His "I don't care if you lynch me, I just want to have fun nuking people haha" fakepost sold me on his lynch entirely.

[GuyInFreezer]

Also the fact that you aren't using that abhorrent site skin invalidates yours thoughts and feelings for the rest of the game

I'm going to nuke you D3.

[mastina]

hmmm I take that back there might only be 1-2 scum on the UT wagon, being Ircher and Reck

Try Ircher and Zito, but yes.
I'm aware of my company on the wagon.

I'm also aware I lack scumreads on the Vaxkiller wagon.

But I'm saving voting Vaxkiller for a hammer.

[Spiffeh]

I meant "are" instead of "aren't" btw

I can't type

Basically mafblack is the only correct skin

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Also the fact that you aren't using that abhorrent site skin invalidates yours thoughts and feelings for the rest of the game

Idk what you're talking about (Silver is fine for me), but Tigers is blinding, Sepia makes me want to go crazy, and iirc Black had a ton or bugs and glitches a few years back, not sure if they ended up fixing those before making it the default skin or not.

[mastina]

Calm down mastina.

No.
I'm having a shitty day and I'll be as much of a shitty player as I want to be.

Plus you're saying this because you're scum so.

[Spiffeh]

mastin if you want you can give me your nuke and I can direct you to shooting whoever I want dead?

[SpyreX]

Reck that's amazing some.things never change

[mastina]

makes an attempt to act as though she's contributing and wants to garner townreads for being all CASUAL!!! and JOKEY!!! is what mastina is doing

You got it backwards there.

It's actually INCREDIBLY transparent what I'm doing here.

Everything.

I had a plan for EVERY outcome.
EVERY troop.
I'll admit I didn't exactly have the best of plans for not getting one at all, but even there I did have some backup plans.

[mastina]

Basically mafblack is the only correct skin

Mafblack is a fucking cancer; mafsilver is the one true race.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

But either at least one other person took a similar policy and got better luck...
...Or EVERY troop had a player who valued it VERY highly. (The more likely of the two.)

I would bet that some players didn't wanna battle it out with the million people who put doc or cop or private vig first, but just wanted to be roled. So they don't necessarily value it highly themselves. At one point though you gotta take into question how valuable dayvig is while making your choices, so I am quite surprised some people decided to go for garbage (at least personally speaking) roles compared to dayvig.

Pedit: It's okay Mastin I'm on your side and see where you're coming from <3

[Ircher]

Basically mafblack is the only correct skin

Mafblack is a fucking cancer; mafsilver is the one true race.

are you crazy? Maf!Black is the most readable skin of them all! You're wrong if you use anything else; EVERYTHING (except black) shows up well on maf!Black.

[Accountant]

I had a plan for EVERY outcome.
EVERY troop.