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VOTE: vaxkillerThere's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
You must not imagine that for beings like you and us there can be laughter. The low men laugh, and we envy them. But for us, the higher ones, there is no laughter, only an unending vigil, purely serious, stretching on into the night.-
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What do you think about the 9ish others that piled on with no justification?In post 1497, Vaxkiller wrote:Because newbies are lynch-bait. Veteran players think they know exactly when another vet is scum and think they always have them pegged. So when wagon gets started on a newbie player no one can be blamed for not knowing they were not scum because of this crappy play style.
Hence why I think SAD is scum trying to get me lynched for crappy reasoning.
And what are your reads beyond SAD in general?-
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It is very concerning that this is ALL S_S has to contribute ever since he's been off the chopping block
Especially since he promised to give reads and reasoning "later".
How long do I have to wait?-
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Cheetory6 MS Painter
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Pool of needs to die soon if they don't IC with their words:
UT
Nahdia
Vax
Pool of why are you doing nothing readable:
Fate
EP
Zito
hiplop
kinda GI
SS
mcmenno
Pool of ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh mostly scary people who I don't want to pretend I can read:
LLD
RC
SAD
Subset [not scary people]:
nukebringer
Ircher
Pool of okay for now:
MOI
Spiff
RECK
GiF
Accountant
Cephrir
mastina
Spyrex
Less good of a situation than I was feeling.
There are a lot of people in this game.
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SpyreX POWERFUL WIZARD
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I think the most disturbing part of this is how there's nothing in there that's even a rippleIn post 1856, Cheetory6 wrote:Pool of needs to die soon if they don't IC with their words:
UT
Nahdia
Vax
Pool of why are you doing nothing readable:
Fate
EP
Zito
hiplop
kinda GI
SS
mcmenno
Pool of ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh mostly scary people who I don't want to pretend I can read:
LLD
RC
SAD
Subset [not scary people]:
nukebringer
Ircher
Pool of okay for now:
MOI
Spiff
RECK
GiF
Accountant
Cephrir
mastina
Spyrex
Less good of a situation than I was feeling.
There are a lot of people in this game.
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Cheetory6 MS Painter
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Cheetory: What do you think about Nahdia picking counterintelligenceThere's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
You must not imagine that for beings like you and us there can be laughter. The low men laugh, and we envy them. But for us, the higher ones, there is no laughter, only an unending vigil, purely serious, stretching on into the night.-
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Earlier Ircher was in your scum pile so this doesn't really jive with meIn post 1702, RedCoyote wrote:
I can ride with this.In post 1669, GreyICE wrote:McMenno and ErrantParabola are still voting for Ircher. Would be willing to bet I could get minimum one scum flip by nuking both.
Also in that post you threw shade on all of mastina, McMenno, Ircher, Vaxkiller,
While I think all of these players have a nonzero percent chance of flipping scum (except maybe mastina) I think you're casting a really broad stroke over all the universal nuke targets which seems like a really easy stance to hold-
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In terms of why Nahdia is in the pile of death, it's mostly because she feels like a fake version of herself.
Last game I played with disengaged Nahdia as town, I just.. felt like she was town. It was a situation in which in my mind, scum was practically between her and another player and it wasn't making sense because she felt town in spite of her being disengaged in general.
I have none of those vibes from any of her play when she hasn't been being defeatist this game.-
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Accountant Jack of All Trades
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Wait, so your read on nahdia is pure meta?There's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
You must not imagine that for beings like you and us there can be laughter. The low men laugh, and we envy them. But for us, the higher ones, there is no laughter, only an unending vigil, purely serious, stretching on into the night.-
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yuckIn post 1716, RedCoyote wrote:Yeah, I deliberately classified it as anti-town rather than scummy for that reason. I also deliberately asked for a nuke rather than a lynch for that reason. There's a fair shot Mastina is town; there's a 100% shot that Mastina is hurting the town.-
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hiplop Jury Darling
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More gut than meta.In post 1867, Accountant wrote:Wait, so your read on nahdia is pure meta?
Not really expecting anyone to sheep me on it, or I would be trying to throw something together that would be more convincing.
But I do think it would be trivial for scumNahdia to coast on
a) defeatism
b) counterintelligence discussion
for at least a while without anyone being able to put anything substantive against her in terms of her trying to coast out the earlygame.
P-Edit: You better.-
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Accountant Jack of All Trades
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someone remind me again why I should not put papa zito in the same category as mcmenno and hiplopThere's nothing that says that a fake can't beat the real thing.
You must not imagine that for beings like you and us there can be laughter. The low men laugh, and we envy them. But for us, the higher ones, there is no laughter, only an unending vigil, purely serious, stretching on into the night.-
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I think SAD/LLD is town v townIn post 1754, xRECKONERx wrote:RC is probably scum too for calling SAD/LLD town v town.
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