DEFCON Mafia 4.0 - СЛАВА РОССИИ МАТЕРИ

[Papa Zito]

Let's talk Cheeto.

[Spiffeh]

This is a very questionable wagon and I agree with UT that Reck is the terrorist anyway

Why do you think he's specifically the terrorist and not just scum in general?

[Cheetory6]

Who is your strongest townread that isn't on my list of people who are okay?
Any updates on scumreads in general?
Also how's it going?

[Papa Zito]

Who is your strongest townread that isn't on my list of people who are okay?

I'd say me but I don't think you'd accept that answer. So I'll go with SAD.

Any updates on scumreads in general?

I typically don't like tipping my hand to the scumteam as it is, in this game where I get to just fucking shoot them I'm even less inclined.

Also how's it going?

I had to spend $500 on my car today that I wasn't expecting to spend. bluh BUT this is my first real nice solid block of vacation time I've had in years and I'm getting lots done around the house it's great.

[Spiffeh]

K I'm caught up

I feel no type of way about UT and he should just get nuked just like the rest of the non contributors

Not much has changed in my reads except GIF is probably town and I'm much less sure about RC being town

[Cheetory6]

I'd say me but I don't think you'd accept that answer. So I'll go with SAD.

Hit me in the face with why you think I should be townreading both of you more.
Preference for SAD but open to the former too.

I had to spend $500 on my car today that I wasn't expecting to spend. bluh BUT this is my first real nice solid block of vacation time I've had in years and I'm getting lots done around the house it's great.

Not jealous of former, jealous as heck of latter.
Would love time to get more stuff done right now. Zzzzz.
Hope you enjoy it.

[Papa Zito]

I am! 3 days of vacation + 2 holiday days = 9 days off straight with bookend weekends, it's GREAT. After so many years being a contractor this feels like such a luxury.


I dunno how to sell myself as town. I guess I'd ask you what you felt I'd done that promoted a scum agenda this game. Essentially the point of starting this dialog is to give you a chance to assess.

Re: SAD, I've felt he's had several back-and-forths with people that have left me with town impressions. He's playing too loose, too confrontational, and most importantly too independently to be part of a coordinated scum team. (inb4 I'm totally wrong and this gets quoted back at me endgame) I also think that a lot of his conversations are geared at either assessing what someone is doing OR they're what he feels as AH HA moments where he thinks he's caught someone dead to rights, which in isolation isn't necessarily a towntell BUT the way he bulldogs on those things rings town to me.

[Accountant]

why is RC scum spiffeh?

[Spiffeh]

I'm not outright scum reading him but I made a post about it last page

[Accountant]

omg I missed that

[Cephrir]

VOTE: mcmenno

Is McMenno really your biggest scum read?

I expect better from you

He's really scummy

I don't know if I have a big deal scumread just yet, I can't make these things happen, at least I'm doing better than my last game

[Cephrir]

Unless you count red coyote as a big scumread I guess he's a decent sized presence

[Cephrir]

RC is probably scum too for calling SAD/LLD town v town.

I think SAD/LLD is town v town

I think people like saying this too much and it's basically impossible to determine, unless you're saying you just think they're both town independent of the argument in which case use different words

But I don't think anyone in the world will agree with me on that

[SpyreX]

Why use different words when those words have the right meaning

Why cant we get to dr nukes partytime

[McMenno]

Mcmenno is a national treasure

saving this for later

I'd say me but I don't think you'd accept that answer. So I'll go with SAD.

pz I expected better of you

[McMenno]

In post 1464, McMenno wrote:

In post 1456, Ircher wrote:
VOTE: McMenno


why did you piggyback off of cephrir's vote instead of voting redcoyote or something_smart, which I'm sure could have a wagon built on them?



And you concluded it was a piggyback vote how?

wanted to address this in particular, you see he votes me immediately after cephrir does without any commentary then later tries to play it off as an rvs-y vote instead of you know... "yeah I was scumreading you and saw cephrir's vote as an opportunity to start a wagon on you"

and could you please be consistent? your posts sound like they're made by different players

oh and there's a difference between "scummy" (whatever that means) and "scum"

[Accountant]

McMenno is far from the scummiest player in the game

[Nahdia]

In terms of why Nahdia is in the pile of death, it's mostly because she feels like a fake version of herself.
Last game I played with disengaged Nahdia as town, I just.. felt like she was town. It was a situation in which in my mind, scum was practically between her and another player and it wasn't making sense because she felt town in spite of her being disengaged in general.
I have none of those vibes from any of her play when she hasn't been being defeatist this game.

Reads like this are why I hate myself for taking a serious & restrained attitude toward the game. I come off as stilted and fake if I'm not just letting myself channel my usual snark and whimsy. Not that this read isn't fair to have; it totally is and I because I came into this knowing people may read me like this it comes off as an organic genuine read (not that I wasn't already townreading cheetory but yeah).

I need to glance over the Vaxkiller case. Can anyone point me in the direction of ISO's that have reasons Vax is scum?

[Nahdia]

Also of note I've started townreading Fate more lately. Though his attack on GiF awhile back still felt odd which is why I threw his name into my 6 earlier.

[Accountant]

Why aren't you letting yourself channel your usual snark and whimsy though?

[Nahdia]

It's a large, there are already going to be lots of voices and hence lots of posts. I didn't want to flood the game.

[Nahdia]

#hype

I'm just hoping that the game doesn't explode like a great amount of LT games since 2013.

i promise to stifle myself.

or at least try.

[Cheetory6]

You may not realize this, but I've been pretty actively stopping myself from posting at my usual levels, but I've also been trying to stop myself from only trying to be serious in the process.
Repressing yourself to a high degree can make it harder to get invested.
[Plus I like your snark so you should probably just let some of it out if you are just genuinely finding it hard to get into the game]

[SpyreX]

Why repress ones self when the sweet freedom rings

[Untrod Tripod]

I typically don't like tipping my hand to the scumteam as it is, in this game where I get to just fucking shoot them I'm even less inclined.

A man after my own heart.

I've been slammed lately, but I'm off work Wednesday-Sunday so I'll go back tonight and see what I've missed or skimmed. Off the top of my head though, I'm unsure why SS is getting a pass going into D1 considering that he hasn't done anything that made his first post(s) in the game less awful and his vote on my wagon was opportunistic and scummy as shit. mastina is still terrible and nukeworthy. Grey is town as fk. not a huge fan of Cheet's post right before this. Accountant is town.

vote SS

I still want this to die. I'm nuking it tomorrow, if I don't live that long someone else needs to nuke it.