DEFCON Mafia 4.0 - СЛАВА РОССИИ МАТЕРИ

[Andrius]

VoteCount

Vaxkiller [10] - Ser Arthur Dayne, SpyreX, Fate, Cephrir, Spiffeh, GreyICE, MagnaofIllusion, Nukebringer, Accountant, xRECKONERx
Untrod Tripod [5] - Ircher, mastina, Something_Smart, Papa Zito, Cheetory6
Ser Arthur Dayne [2] - Lady Lambdadelta, Vaxkiller
Ircher [2] - McMenno, ErrantParabola
Something_Smart [2] - GuyInFreezer, Untrod Tripod
McMenno [1] - RedCoyote

Not Voting [2] - hiplop, Nahdia

With 24 alive it will take 13 to lynch.

It is now DEFCON 3. Day 1 will last until December 4th, 2016, at 13:00 hours.
COUNTDOWN: (expired on 2016-12-04 17:00:00)

Spiffeh is V/LA this week.
Papa Zito is V/LA this week.
Firebringer is V/LA this week.

[Cephrir]

More like, as long as nobody cares what I have to say. And no, pretending to care by complaining about me not contributing isn't enough.

aw, muffinnnnn! do you need me to hold your haaaaand???

[Cheetory6]

It's bad because he's calling me scum.
Particularly, he's fixating on my first post and just writing all the others off as not influential to change his read based on that.
He "still" wants me to die as if I've been his strongest scumread all game; for that to be true he had to have been hardly reading anything.

What posts from you should have changed his mind?
Why would someone who's been reading the game not be able to have you as their strongest scumread? Do you think you've done something that makes it clear that you're town?

[Something_Smart]

He "still" wants me to die as if I've been his strongest scumread all game; for that to be true he had to have been hardly reading anything.

And he did admit to hardly reading anything no?

1. but then he shouldn't be demanding that I be nuked because that's basically asking other people to follow his read that he admits is uninformed and terrible

2. he's trying to look like he believes in what he's doing when he doesn't

So how does 1 goes to 2?

He's obviously trying to look like he believes in what he's doing, what with asking people to nuke me if he doesn't make it.
So I'm assuming that he can't honestly believe in a read that's based on not reading the thread. If that assumption is incorrect then we have a different problem entirely.

Vaxkiller because he tried to defend Ircher's post by accusing me of a misrep while making a misrep himself, he tried to appeal to people defending him, and his tone is very stilted and doesn't feel like town under unjust pressure.
Ircher because his readlists contained numerous strange reads with weak or basically nonexistent reasoning (Cheetory, SpyreX, mastina, Cephrir, Reck, and me in particular).
Nukebringer because gut. Well, more than that, it seems like Firebringer is trying to imitate his town play and not doing a very good job of it.

Where'd I go? I thought I was your first "non-gut" read.

You're a scumlean.

It's bad because he's calling me scum.
Particularly, he's fixating on my first post and just writing all the others off as not influential to change his read based on that.
He "still" wants me to die as if I've been his strongest scumread all game; for that to be true he had to have been hardly reading anything.

What posts from you should have changed his mind?
Why would someone who's been reading the game not be able to have you as their strongest scumread? Do you think you've done something that makes it clear that you're town?

No but several other people have done things that are overtly scummy. (And I do think some of my posts have been reasonably good, especially if you read into them as shallowly as UT read into 26.)

[Cephrir]

(And I do think some of my posts have been reasonably good, especially if you read into them as shallowly as UT read into 26.)

????

[GuyInFreezer]

So I'm assuming that he can't honestly believe in a read that's based on not reading the thread.

I can. Why can't he?

[Fate]

WELL IM BACK SO LETS FUCKING DANCE WHERE ARE MY LAST THREE VOTES

[Fate]

RECK CANT HIDE HIS SCUM FROM ME

WELL SEE WHATS WHAT WHEN THE NUKES FLY

AND DONT MAKE ANY EXCUSES IF IM NKD BY A GODDAMN TERRORIST

[Something_Smart]

So I'm assuming that he can't honestly believe in a read that's based on not reading the thread.

I can. Why can't he?

because he explicitly cited having read ALL my posts as the reason for that read.

To be fair, it is possible that he scumreads me based on reading only what I've said. But to have me as his top scumread, to the point where he'd nuke me?

I don't buy it.

[Fate]

RECK IS THE ENTIRE REASON FOR THE UT WAGON

HE HAS MADE A DEAL

EVERYONE ELSE FOLLOWS SUIT OR GOES ON RECORD FOR A DEAD WAGON WHEN WE GOT A COMMIE RUNG UP

[Vaxkiller]

everything he said about me is awful and sounds faked.

What is so "fake" about anything I have said?

[GuyInFreezer]

everything he said about me is awful and sounds faked.

What is so "fake" about anything I have said?

uh

[Vaxkiller]

At this stage lack of Vaxkiller votes are holding up advancement to Defcon 1 and glorious flying Nukes. Let’s get on this people.

^Wants his miss-lynch to not appear scum-motivated^

[Cheetory6]

You being like "every person with any level of rhetoric pushing me is scum" is bad.

[Something_Smart]

everything he said about me is awful and sounds faked.

What is so "fake" about anything I have said?

dude there's a votecount literally at the top of the page

[Vaxkiller]

Why don’t you think SAD and Vax didn’t plan this in the scum PT?

You really think SAD seems like the type of person to trust an unknown player like me to scum read each other and try to get the other lynched? This really seems like the most likely option to you, some weird associative tell?

[Vaxkiller]

everything he said about me is awful and sounds faked.

What is so "fake" about anything I have said?

dude there's a votecount literally at the top of the page

I ask for what was fake, and you point to a vote count. No provide details.

[Something_Smart]

That line was referring to the person who I'm currently voting.

That person is not you.

[Cephrir]

To be fair, it is possible that he scumreads me based on reading only what I've said. But to have me as his top scumread, to the point where he'd nuke me?

you are literally insane

[Vaxkiller]

You being like "every person with any level of rhetoric pushing me is scum" is bad.

Where did I say this? There are 10 people voting me and I think most of them are sheep.

[Something_Smart]

To be fair, it is possible that he scumreads me based on reading only what I've said. But to have me as his top scumread, to the point where he'd nuke me?

you are literally insane

no u

[Cephrir]

welcome to mafia

people have strong opinions

if someone replaced in and came out and said CHEETORY6 IS OBVIOUSLY SCUM WTF GUYS, for example, I'd be mildly surprised, but I would buy that someone could potentially think that

[Vaxkiller]

everything he said about me is awful and sounds faked.

What is so "fake" about anything I have said?

dude there's a votecount literally at the top of the page

rofl. I saw a post of someone saying I was paranoid. I was like "I'm not paranoid". Now I just proved my self wrong.

[Cephrir]

ss is just scum isn't he

[Vaxkiller]

ss is just scum isn't he

Naw, just some of his posts rub me the wrong way